Lifting a V85

[YellowDuck]

How do you lift a V85 for service, if you want just the rear wheel off the ground (say, to rotate the motor), or both wheels (e.g., to take the loose wheels in for a tire swap)?

I have ideas, but could use confirmation.  No center stand, and no desire to install one.

For just the rear wheel, Id run the front wheel into a stable chock that will hold the bike upright, then jack up the rear by the swingarm just behind the cat.

For both wheels, I am thinking get someone to hold the bike upright while I jack up the front under the motor, then run a bar through the empty motor mount hole in the engine, then lower the bike until that bar rests on a pair of jack stands.  Then jack up the rear as before.

Do those make sense?  How would a proper shop do this?

What about the task of lifting the rear from the frame instead of the swingarm, for example if you wanted to remove the shock?

[PeteS]

What do you have against center stands? The one for the V85 is well designed and takes minimal effort to get the bike up. My Triumph Tiger didn’t have one and I had to use a race stand to lift the rear wheel. I have a bike lift to get the front wheel up.

Pete

[YellowDuck]

What do you have against center stands? The one for the V85 is well designed and takes minimal effort to get the bike up. My Triumph Tiger didn’t have one and I had to use a race stand to lift the rear wheel. I have a bike lift to get the front wheel up.

Pete

hmmm...you make a good point.  I just checked and they are a lot cheaper than I expected (CDN$191).  If I decide I don't want it on the bike all the time I can just install it without the springs when I need it for service.  I guess I'll order one.  Thanks.

[Vagrant]

Just do the center stand. It makes everything simple. I just R&R'd a rear tire yesterday and it took 5 minutes to remove it.

[Cam3512]

A “proper shop” would use a center stand and a lift.  Why wouldn’t you just leave one on the bike in case something happens while you’re out on a road trip?  The method you described is a recipe for disaster.

[Perazzimx14]

I lift all my bikes the same way. Roll either the front or rear wheel into the wheel vise atop the Titan 1500 electric/hydraulic table push the button and raise the bike up to a good working height.

To get the opposite wheel from the vise off the deck I use a section of 2/x4 as a softie and a RV leveling scissors jack somewhere sturdy the bike and raise it up to whatever height I need.

[PeteS]

A center stand and bottle jack will take care of lifting the front for minimal investment.

Pete

[guzziart]

Just do the CC. It makes everything simple. I just R&R'd a rear tire yesterday and it took 5 minutes to remove it.

What's "the cc" thing?

hmmm...you make a good point.  I just checked and they are a lot cheaper than I expected (CDN$191).  If I decide I don't want it on the bike all the time I can just install it without the springs when I need it for service.  I guess I'll order one.  Thanks.

Center stand works good.  Rear wheel is easier to yank out than I though...pull caliper mount bracket bolt, pull axle, pull wheel.  Front, pulled calipers from mounts, left the sensor in place but gave the line plenty of slack, pulled axle, drop wheel.  Tied up all calipers so they weren't hanging by lines.  Tie down like PPMX14 did in his photo....and NOT like the way I did it in my photo, I don't know what I was thinking there, brain fart I guess.  Good luck!

[Motormike]

[quote author=Perazzimx14 link=topic=125269.msg1923404#msg1923404 date=1779454900
To get the opposite wheel from the vise off the deck I use a section of 2/x4 as a softie and a RV leveling scissors jack somewhere sturdy the bike and raise it up to whatever height I need.



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I am always very hesitant about using any type of jack against the sump/engine unless it is approved by the manufacturer.  I know people have gotten away with it for years, but man, one small crack in the casting and you may have just totaled your bike!  If the bike has a centerstand, I have weighted the back of the seat until the rear wheel touched the ground.  Use a strap on the centerstand to make sure it can't retract accidently.  Always enough to remove the front wheel.  On bikes without a centerstand I use purpose built front and rear stands, such as Pit Bull to lift the bike.

[Moparnut72]

I have a track, one of the types that are used to suspend sliding barn doors. I bolted to the bottom of the trusses and with a chain hoists I can lift the front, back or the whole bike using proper lifting points.
kk

[Tkelly]

Anyone install center stand on a v9?

[azccj]

This won't work for the V85, but this is what I use on my Suzuki, https://abbastandsusa.com/product-detail.asp?item=superbike-stand&pid=1  and  https://abbastandsusa.com/product-detail.asp?item=front-lift-arm&pid=42 . Great tool for bikes without a center stand. It allows the removal of both wheels at the same time and the bike while suspended is nice and stable. If I just need to get the Suzuki's back wheel off the ground to lube the chain, I use a cheap Vevor rear stand with bobbins that are mounted on the swingarm.

[Huzo]

Buggerising around with lame arrangements as said, is a recipe for disaster. The thought of not being able to safely and effectively get the bike on a stand for loading, maintenance, cleaning etc… Just makes me nauseous.
How serious are you ?
Are you concerned that the centrestand will spoil the sleek racy look of your V85 ?
Just get the damn thing…

[Huzo]

Son of a Mongoose…..!
If that front contraption flicks out, the bike will tilt forward, roll off the stand and crash off the lift…!
(But I think you acknowledged that…)

[Perazzimx14]

I am always very hesitant about using any type of jack against the sump/engine unless it is approved by the manufacturer.  I know people have gotten away with it for years, but man, one small crack in the casting and you may have just totaled your bike!  If the bike has a centerstand, I have weighted the back of the seat until the rear wheel touched the ground.  Use a strap on the centerstand to make sure it can't retract accidently.  Always enough to remove the front wheel.  On bikes without a centerstand I use purpose built front and rear stands, such as Pit Bull to lift the bike.

Using a 2x4 as a softie also enlarges the bearing surface spreading the weight out over a larger area. Using a scissors jack to raise one end of the bike wheel the other is secured in the wheel vise I am only lifting 1/2 the weight of the bike. The jack is probably pushing with the same force against the skid plate as if I turned the bike over and stood on the skid plate.

[SIR REAL ED]

Just makes me nauseous.

i've heard that a chaw of Roo Jerky will settle your stomach.  Is that true, Mate?

Are you concerned that the centrestand will spoil the sleek racy look of your V85 ?

Would not the extra weight of the centerstand cancel out the increased acceleration benefits of the quickshifter?
Enquiring minds want to know....

[Tom]

Center stand.....2x4's and 2x6's.  Usually first choice w/center stand. 

No center stand...motorcycle table lift, engine hoist, jack stands & bottle jack, c-lift. 

Have not used a chain hoist from a roof rafter.    

[guzziart]

Son of a Mongoose…..!
If that front contraption flicks out, the bike will tilt forward, roll off the stand and crash off the lift…!
(But I think you acknowledged that…)

  Yeah, I hate getting old...idk wtf I was thinking when i did that.  In the past I've tied them down much like pmx14 or tie the stand to a forward frame so there was no way for the stand to retract or back on to lift & put rear wheel in vise and tie down too.  I actually didn't realize what i did until I looked closely at the pick upon posting it.  I did the tires last week and was gonna post in the where'd you park your guzzi today but never got around to it.  How embarrassing but it at least it didn't turn into a disaster.
Art

[Motormike]

  Yeah, I hate getting old...idk wtf I was thinking when i did that.  In the past I've tied them down much like pmx14 or tie the stand to a forward frame so there was no way for the stand to retract or back on to lift & put rear wheel in vise and tie down too.  I actually didn't realize what i did until I looked closely at the pick upon posting it.  I did the tires last week and was gonna post in the where'd you park your guzzi today but never got around to it.  How embarrassing but it at least it didn't turn into a disaster.
Art

I've done it that way a time or two. But after the front wheel is off, I slide the axle back in and set a nice jack stand under it.  That plus a strap to prevent the center stand from folding up and I can sleep pretty well till the job is done.

[guzziart]

I've done it that way a time or two. But after the front wheel is off, I slide the axle back in and set a nice jack stand under it.  That plus a strap to prevent the center stand from folding up and I can sleep pretty well till the job is done.

Same here when I still had gray matter.