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Quote from: alanp on July 08, 2008, 08:48:44 PMQuote from: LowRyter on July 08, 2008, 06:55:22 PMI live in the land of 3.2 beer. Strong beer can only be sold warm in a package store. Good god man, get a cooler and buy it warm then!Bud products you say? Such shyte shall never darken my lips....life is WAY TOO short for that.Dude, beer that's been sitting warm is crap- any brand. Add time from the east coast or Europe and it's crapier crap. Bud is consistently the best, freshest beer you can buy here. And you won't find fresher beer anywhere in the USA short of a Brew Pub. In fact, I've never had a good bottle Heineken in my life- anywhere. I've had wonderful Sam Adams in the east, it's just terrible here (I bought a six pack last week and couldn't finish the first one). MO, Fresh beer is better than most brand differences.
Quote from: LowRyter on July 08, 2008, 06:55:22 PMI live in the land of 3.2 beer. Strong beer can only be sold warm in a package store. Good god man, get a cooler and buy it warm then!Bud products you say? Such shyte shall never darken my lips....life is WAY TOO short for that.
I live in the land of 3.2 beer. Strong beer can only be sold warm in a package store.
Quote from: LowRyter on July 08, 2008, 08:57:24 PMQuote from: alanp on July 08, 2008, 08:48:44 PMQuote from: LowRyter on July 08, 2008, 06:55:22 PMI live in the land of 3.2 beer. Strong beer can only be sold warm in a package store. Good god man, get a cooler and buy it warm then!Bud products you say? Such shyte shall never darken my lips....life is WAY TOO short for that.Dude, beer that's been sitting warm is crap- any brand. Add time from the east coast or Europe and it's crapier crap. Bud is consistently the best, freshest beer you can buy here. And you won't find fresher beer anywhere in the USA short of a Brew Pub. In fact, I've never had a good bottle Heineken in my life- anywhere. I've had wonderful Sam Adams in the east, it's just terrible here (I bought a six pack last week and couldn't finish the first one). MO, Fresh beer is better than most brand differences.To each his own, but that freshness stuff is mostly guys in the advertising room trying to figure out a way to promote their mediocre beer. Age can certainly matter with beer, but if it is stored properly (out of the sun and heat, and in a brown rather than clear or green bottle) it will last a very long time.
In bottled conditioned beer as long as the yeast is active you're ok, it's when they die the deterioration begins. Constant temerature is the key to keeping the yeasts alive and active. I am not a home brewer but this is what I was taught. If it is stored dark and cold it can last, but by the time a german import makes it cross the pond on a container ship, sits in a Hoboken warehouse for a couple weeks before winding its way across country in a semi, then sits in a distributors warehouse for a spell - then spends a week being bombarded by florescent light in the store, there is some compromise in flavor :P I have had some great bottled imports, but the less popular varieties were wildly variable.Among the better and more consistant Harp lagerNewcastle BrownSam Smiths AlesDos Equis XX - although I once poured a mouse out of a bottle - never touched one since :oPaulaner SalvatoreSince the local brewing scene has blossomed I don't even bother with foreign beer.
Quote from: zzrider on July 12, 2008, 03:44:58 PM...Dos Equis XX - although I once poured a mouse out of a bottle - never touched one since :o...That's why the only imports I buy are Mexican.
...Dos Equis XX - although I once poured a mouse out of a bottle - never touched one since :o...
The Spoetzl Brewery in Shiner TX is just a few miles (by our standards) down the road from me. Whatever little watering hole I stop at, I can at least get a fairly decent dark brew. Shiner Bock
Probably the IPA ageing in my bathroom. I keep telling myself I'll bottle it sooner or later...
Quote from: LowRyter on July 08, 2008, 08:57:24 PMQuote from: alanp on July 08, 2008, 08:48:44 PMQuote from: LowRyter on July 08, 2008, 06:55:22 PMI live in the land of 3.2 beer. Strong beer can only be sold warm in a package store. Good god man, get a cooler and buy it warm then!Bud products you say? Such shyte shall never darken my lips....life is WAY TOO short for that.Dude, beer that's been sitting warm is crap- any brand. Add time from the east coast or Europe and it's crapier crap. Bud is consistently the best, freshest beer you can buy here. And you won't find fresher beer anywhere in the USA short of a Brew Pub. In fact, I've never had a good bottle Heineken in my life- anywhere. I've had wonderful Sam Adams in the east, it's just terrible here (I bought a six pack last week and couldn't finish the first one). MO, Fresh beer is better than most brand differences.To each his own, but that freshness stuff is mostly guys in the advertising room trying to figure out a way to promote their mediocre beer. Most alcoholic beverages improve, and cost more the older they are; wine, port, scotch, whatever. Same definitely holds true for my homebrew. A 2 month old bottle isn't ready to drink. Give it about 6 more months and it will test dramatically better. And I'll take a warm, 10 year old bottle of Afligem Triple over a fresh Bud anyday. ;D Age can certainly matter with beer, but if it is stored properly (out of the sun and heat, and in a brown rather than clear or green bottle) it will last a very long time.
Franziskanner or Weihenstephaner Heffeweizen Dunkel or a beer that is put in front of me....