Author Topic: Rocker59's Spine Frame Chronicles... (Read 145669 times)

rocker59 · « **Reply #90 on:** September 11, 2010, 05:54:38 PM »

Heading out for some Saturday Night fun, but thought I'd mention that the pre-selector assembly was removed from the bike today. It was disassembled and the new spring installed. With a little (quite a bit, actually) fiddling, the pre-selector assembly was reassembled, and the gears properly (I hope) timed...

In the morning, I'll re-install it on the bike, fill it with some fresh Mobil-1, and give it a little road test... ;-T

Pictures to follow in the morning... :BEER:

Tom · « **Reply #91 on:** September 12, 2010, 11:25:51 AM »

I'm interested.

mojohand · « **Reply #92 on:** September 12, 2010, 11:37:33 AM »

I love this thread, sir.

rocker59 · « **Reply #93 on:** September 12, 2010, 03:21:33 PM »

As promised, here are a few photos from the job. A short road test after reassembly seems to indicate a successful operation! :BEER:

After reading a few old threads here and at v11lemans.com, and looking at the exploded diagram in the service manual, I started Saturday Afternoon by draining the transmission gear oil out in the driveway.

Then I pushed it back into the garage and began removing things... The starter cover, the battery, the starter, all of which came off the bike quickly...

I removed the battery mainly to clean out the tray and the area around it since I ride in all weather and hadn't cleaned it up in awhile...

After the starter came off, the pre-selector assembly cover was in full view...

I removed the shifter mechanism from the shaft, removed the bolts holding the cover on, then gently pryed the cover. Once the gasket sealant (what little of it there was) gave way, the suspect spring's broken part fell out the bottom (along with the remaining tablespoon of oil in the tranny).

When I finally coaxed the cover off the bike, this is what the backside looks like. Disassembling this assembly was next on the agenda. Snap ring pliers are helpful here, as there are two on each shaft holding the gears on. Disassembly actually only takes a couple minutes once you look at how it's put together...

While cleaning the gasket surfaces, I snapped a photo of the transmission's innards... Pretty clean looking in there.

Reassembly of the pre-selector assembly is a little tedious and I had to do it a couple of times to ensure that the gears were timed properly after taking it apart to install the new spring. You have to start in neutral and there are a couple of marks on the gears to help with this. I tested the assembly in my lap several times, making sure I could run it through 1-N-2-3-4-5-6. It seemed to be working...

At this point, I'd been piddling around with the project for about three hours. Time flies when you're having fun, right? ;) It was time to take a break and get cleaned up for some Saturday Night fun, so I left the project sitting over night...

So, about noon today I get back after it. I applied some gasket sealer to the mating surfaces, then slid the assembly back in place. it took a little coaxing, but I was finally able to get it secured with its screws and wiped away the excess gasket sealant. I tested the shifting by spinning the back wheel with my hand as I shifted up and down through the gears... I was sweating a bit, but it seems to shift fine, if a little notchy...

At that point I reinstalled the shift linkage, the starter, the starter cover, the battery, then 850ml of Mobil-1 gear oil went into the transmission...

A short road test confirmed that it's shifting through the gears in a pretty normal fashion. It seems a little notchy, but that may just be me. I can put it into a false neutral between 5th and 6th, but it may have been that way before, I don't know... I'm probably just being hyper-critical of my work after digging so deep into my trusted touring bike...

Another road test is in order this afternoon. Probably go run 50 to 75 miles just to put my mind at ease. Having the bike back together feels good! This means the big ride to New Mexico at the end of the month is still on, and I may even bow to pressure from Marcia and Peg, and make Mo-Kan next Saturday Night!

We'll see...

rocker59 · « **Reply #94 on:** September 12, 2010, 03:47:52 PM »

Quote from: Tom on September 12, 2010, 11:25:51 AM

I'm interested.

Quote from: mojohand on September 12, 2010, 11:37:33 AM

I love this thread, sir.

Thanks guys! ;-T

Tom · « **Reply #95 on:** September 13, 2010, 03:15:24 AM »

Thanks. For some reason I was thinking that I'd have to disassemble the bike to do the repair. Remove the trans. type of repair.

Pretty cool! ;-T

rocker59 · « **Reply #96 on:** October 04, 2010, 09:44:36 PM »

Just in from 2,000 miles of 2-up trailering on the Nero Corsa. Passenger, trailer, AND bike survived...

Only a couple of slight modifications were necessary to make the trip comfortable...

Foam grip covers and Throttle Rocker:

Air Hawk for rider and for passenger:

Here we are at the distant point of our week. Brazos Cliffs overlook on US-64 in Northern New Mexico:

The transmission surgery of a few weeks ago to repair the "shift system spring" was successful and the tranny shifts like butter!

My trusty Nero Corsa is proving to be a most versatile machine!!! Something like 38,000 miles on the old girl now and I'm loving every mile!!!

More details on the Throroughbred and the Milk Wagon in the upcoming ride report... :BEER:

edit: Here's the link to the Santa Fe 400 Ride Report: LINK

rocker59 · « **Reply #97 on:** October 21, 2010, 06:29:44 PM »

A post I added in the Oklahoma Chowdown thread... 2-up, 400 mile overnighter on the Sport 1100!:

Great time! ;-T

Thanks to our host at "The Brookside Bed & Breakfast" for putting us up Friday Night! Marcia and I departed Fayetteville at around 545pm and arrived in Tulsa (via AR-16 and US-412) around 745pm. A few beers and shooting the bull, then down to Crow Creek on South Peoria in Tulsa for some really good burgers and drinks. We walked off our dinner by strolling down Peoria to a local pub for another, before heading back to the B&B.

Sunday Morning, Marcia cooked up some great scrambled eggs and sausage to tide us over until lunch at Seaba Station. Just before 10am, we fueled at the Quick Trip, then headed for our meetup point, Brookside Motors, the local Guzzi dealer in Tulsa...

Michael D befriended some random BMW d00d named Hal at the QT , who decided to join us for the run out to Seaba Station.

Michael D in the lead, we grabbed I-44 across the river, then OK-66...

Just on the West Side of Sapulpa, Michael D took us across a bridge and along a particularly old section of the former Route-66...

Pretty awesome old bridge with an unusual brick deck...

The route took us past a great old (and "for sale") Drive-In...

Narrow and winding... Danger around every curve, back in the day, I'm sure...

As usual, there were some cool old houses along the way...

Soon enough, we were back on the "newer version" of Old 66 and parading Westward with some HD and 'wings...

They pulled in for gas at Bristow, leaving us pretty much alone on OK-66...

At the quaint (and nearly deserted) town of Depew, we pulled off the highway for a little break...

Some cool old buildings in this town. Unfortunately, the only ones open these days are the grocery, the florist, the barber, and the post office... Pretty quiet little burg...

Soon enough, we reach our destination for the day...

Cool four-wheeled stuff at Seaba today, too...

...but this is what we're here for:

It was 1230pm by the time we arrived and apparently many bikes had already come and gone...

The original 2-stall privy for the old gas station:

A portion of the Guzzi crew that showed up for the event:

Guzzis were well represented at the event. I counted ten or eleven during the time we were there...

They even have a nice old Guzzi on display inside...

Marcia and I made a loop through the museum:

This was a pretty interesting Street Tracker. Evo Sportster-based, but with modified heads to run the carbs and exhaust XR750-style...

Ah!!! The most beautiful bike in attendance!!! ;)

The road in front of Seaba is very inviting!

Gary Scott describes "the flasher incident"...

A late arrival. The rare blue/champaign Quota! This guy is from OKC, but doesn't post here or belong to MGNOC...

Lots of late-model British iron in attendance...

Around 330pm, we said our goodbyes. Michael D, Marcia, and I headed back East on OK-66...

Some random buildings on the way home:

Yet another Route 66 Museum:

Phillips 66 on Route 66:

A great old Victorian house:

Lincoln Motel:

Old Gas Station:

At Bristow, Michael D continued towards Tulsa. Marcia and I grabbed OK-16 for Muskogee where we'd pick up US-62 the rest of the 200 miles home...

OK-16:

We arrived back in F'ville about 745pm after running the 200 miles from Seaba Station. What a great time!

Oh, and don't let anyone tell you the spine frame bikes can't go 2-up... Marcia and I had a great time on this little 400 mile overnighter with the trusty old Sport 1100 !!! ;-T

I bought this bike new in March 1997. Going on 14 years of ownership and I've loved every minute of it!!! ;-T

The Route: Map Link

Tom · « **Reply #98 on:** October 21, 2010, 09:10:37 PM »

;-T ;-T ;-T

Guzzimundi · « **Reply #99 on:** October 22, 2010, 04:07:15 AM »

Superb! ;-T

Aaron D. · « **Reply #100 on:** January 08, 2011, 09:16:09 AM »

Bump!

I'm on the trail-this thread has me panting!

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #101 on:** January 08, 2011, 10:45:24 AM »

Thanks! ;-T

rocker59 · « **Reply #102 on:** January 08, 2011, 12:44:25 PM »

Thanks guys!

I've got a couple of old threads I need to work on... Haven't added to this in awhile, and never finished the New Mexico ride report, either.

Had a job change the first of December and I've been working a screwey schedule. That, and the riding I've done lately has around town, and that's been on the Bassa.

JohninVT` · « **Reply #103 on:** January 08, 2011, 01:04:06 PM »

I really enjoy reading this thread whenever you update it. ;-T

Carl Allison · « **Reply #104 on:** January 09, 2011, 08:41:55 AM »

http://forum.animaguzzista.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12311#p1132686

Tom · « **Reply #105 on:** January 09, 2011, 11:42:51 AM »

Are you changing the trailer operations over to the Bassa?

Tobit · « **Reply #106 on:** January 09, 2011, 12:02:12 PM »

Great thread. You're making me want a Sport 1100.

Tobit

Turin · « **Reply #107 on:** January 09, 2011, 03:10:53 PM »

Very nice. I like the tail treatment on a few of those . (bump)

badge502 · « **Reply #108 on:** January 09, 2011, 05:10:41 PM »

I like the under the seat exhaust on #4...

fotoguzzi · « **Reply #109 on:** January 09, 2011, 05:39:30 PM »

I like #7 w/the QuatD muffler and BLACK of course!

Jim Rich · « **Reply #110 on:** January 09, 2011, 09:24:26 PM »

What eye candy. The Sport 1100 and Daytona were what drew me to Guzzi in the first place.

rocker59 · « **Reply #111 on:** July 18, 2011, 10:29:43 AM »

The trusty Nero Corsa turned 40 last week. Yep. Somewhere just north of Hermann Missouri, on the way to The National, it rolled over 40,000 miles! ;-T

Seems like it had about 2,300 miles on the clock when I picked it up in January 2006. It's been a trusty steed. Oil and tires, plus valve adjustments are all that's been required.

The Nero has not had its efi or tps touched in all that time. Great bike!

There are a few niggling things that probably need to be addressed:

1) The left fork leg has a leaky fork seal.
2) The front crossover has finally gotten loose. Needs either new seals/shims, or just deleted.
3) There is a rattle in the front fairing. I suspect a loose headlight adjustment screw, but I haven't looked.
4) It does pop and spit a bit when it's hot and humid, and when it doesn't like the fuel it's being fed.
5) The rear brake is kind of noisy when pushing the bike backwards.

I can tell you that the 89 octane ethanol they sell in Iowa is pure swill. The poor bike ran like Pure-D shite on that stuff. Unfortnately, many stations up there only had 87 and 89. The manual calls for at least 90 in this bike and it will ping a bit on lesser grades. Luckily I was able to find some real-deal 93 octane gasoline at a few places and that made all the difference!

It's performed well as a tug, er, a Thoroughbred hitched to a milk wagon... The trailer weighs about 240 loaded. I weigh about 230, and my pillion weighs about 140. That's over 600 lbs for the poor little bike to lug around, but it does it quite admirably.

The clutch seems to be holding up quite well, even after the 300 miles stuck in 5th gear last summer with the shift spring broken, and nearly 10,000 miles tugging the trailer around. The bike just keeps on keeping on!

It is about due for a new set of tires. The 1,600 mile roundtrip to The National really put the hurt on the ME880s. This set has served well. They went on the bike a little over a year ago, just before the Kansas Campout, and are nearing thier service life (in my experience) of about 10,000 miles. The ME880 is, by far, the best choice on these bikes if the "touring" part of "sport-touring" is emphasized.

So why exactly did they quit building the spine-frame bikes? Who the hell knows? They're great Moto-Guzzis!

Every Guzzisti should own one! :BEER:

rocker59 · « **Reply #112 on:** July 18, 2011, 10:54:59 AM »

2011 Ride Reports:

March: Fools on a Hill: Link

May: SWMO Ride Report: Link

June: Eureka Springs Ride Report: Link

July: Elkader Ride Report: Link

cruzziguzzi · « **Reply #113 on:** July 18, 2011, 11:15:14 AM »

Love the updates Rocker, but, my God man! You've posted your gals weight on the internet! You could've at least beclouded the issue with the use of voodoo measurements like the metric system. What's next, age, shoe size? Be afraid, be very afraid!

rocker59 · « **Reply #114 on:** July 18, 2011, 11:22:26 AM »

Quote from: cruzziguzzi on July 18, 2011, 11:15:14 AM

Love the updates Rocker, but, my God man! You've posted your gals weight on the internet! You could've at least beclouded the issue with the use of voodoo measurements like the metric system. What's next, age, shoe size? Be afraid, be very afraid!

She had a birthday this past weekend, but that's all I'm going to say about that... :D

Michael D · « **Reply #115 on:** July 18, 2011, 12:30:32 PM »

Quote from: rocker59 on July 18, 2011, 11:22:26 AM

She had a birthday this past weekend, but that's all I'm going to say about that... :D

Smart man.....yes, very smart man! :D

nilknarf · « **Reply #116 on:** July 18, 2011, 03:28:45 PM »

**C You forgot to mention that she's tall, very tall.(Trying to save your bacon here) ;D ;D

**C Dave ;-T

P.S. Michael correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Marcia takes a lot of these pictures off the back of the bike while they're moving.

Michael D · « **Reply #117 on:** July 18, 2011, 03:59:12 PM »

Yep, Miss Swivel Hips! Mike said he' doesn't have a clue when she's turned a 180 degrees for a snapshot.

rocker59 · « **Reply #118 on:** July 18, 2011, 04:05:10 PM »

Quote from: Turkey Creek Dave on July 18, 2011, 03:28:45 PM

P.S. Michael correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Marcia takes a lot of these pictures off the back of the bike while they're moving.

Yes, she takes most of the "moving" pics. My new camera is not real ergonomic for one-handed use, and she loves watching the world go by and snapping photos.

kevdog3019 · « **Reply #119 on:** July 18, 2011, 07:59:54 PM »

Nice thread!! I totally agree about the spine-frame bikes... specifically the V11 Lemans for a sport-tourer. I too had a shift spring go at about 25000 miles or so but stuck in first. Had to limp across town in over 90 degree weather. Really sucked and she was quite hot to boot. I've also never had to adjust EFI or TPS over all the years and miles. I'm at about 30k now. She runs like snot and smooth as silk. Glad to hear there are others like her out there. Keep posting about your journeys. Very enjoyable to read.
-Kevin

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Author Topic: Rocker59's Spine Frame Chronicles... (Read 145669 times)

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