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Re: The 2020 Wild Guzzi National in Cedar Vale May 7-11
« Reply #2910 on: January 06, 2020, 08:13:43 PM »
JB Taylor............. ..Count me in!

Glad to be there!  flynguzzi@yahoo.com

 I need to start a list , you were already on it JB , looking forward to seeing you again  :thumb:

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Re: The 2020 Wild Guzzi National in Cedar Vale May 7-11
« Reply #2911 on: January 07, 2020, 04:22:18 AM »
Faith no more .... OK , Faith is still around , but we will be dealing with a new mayor this year , and a couple of new council members . The new mayor knows us , it will be interesting to see if HE works as hard as Faith has over the years to make this thing work... Dusty 

You mean this is a "Guy-type" mayor?  Who is going to make all of those good deserts for the tour of the museum on Saturday?  Oh, This could be very bad. 

So far, I have the event on my Touring Calendar.  I want to make another trip to see the USS Batfish (SS-310) in Muskogee on one of the weekend days.  My goal this year is to see as many of the WW II diesel submarines as possible while I'm on the road to motorcycle events.
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Re: The 2020 Rally in Cedar Vale
« Reply #2912 on: January 07, 2020, 07:00:48 AM »
Can't be any worse than the storms and flooding at the Guzzi National I was at more than 30 years ago in Abilene, Ks.

I should be there barring unforeseen events.

We were there too. Frank didn't even charge us for the beach front that had appeared at our rented cabin. Need to make it to CV this year if at all possible.
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Re: The 2020 Wild Guzzi National in Cedar Vale May 7-11
« Reply #2913 on: January 07, 2020, 07:33:40 AM »
In the depth of winter you have me thinking about this event, what would be a good route from the Pacific Northwest, camping of course, I'm too cheap to motel it.
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Re: The 2020 Wild Guzzi National in Cedar Vale May 7-11
« Reply #2914 on: January 07, 2020, 08:15:31 AM »
You mean this is a "Guy-type" mayor?  Who is going to make all of those good deserts for the tour of the museum on Saturday?  Oh, This could be very bad. 

So far, I have the event on my Touring Calendar.  I want to make another trip to see the USS Batfish (SS-310) in Muskogee on one of the weekend days.  My goal this year is to see as many of the WW II diesel submarines as possible while I'm on the road to motorcycle events.


 Don't worry Chuck , Faith and the ladies will still be supplying us with all of those wonderful deserts  :food:

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Re: The 2020 Wild Guzzi National in Cedar Vale May 7-11
« Reply #2915 on: January 07, 2020, 08:18:05 AM »
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In the depth of winter you have me thinking about this event, what would be a good route from the Pacific Northwest, camping of course, I'm too cheap to motel it.
Any reason to have to start out from the Pacific NW? Weather is going to be possibly a very significant problem as you would be crossing a lot of mountains and high altitudes, ice, snow and even blizzards are very much a possibility let alone the cold, even in May. A southern route leaving form southern CA would be much safer and more comfortable INHO.
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Re: The 2020 Wild Guzzi National in Cedar Vale May 7-11
« Reply #2916 on: January 07, 2020, 08:49:47 AM »
From Kiwi_Roy:Any reason to have to start out from the Pacific NW? Weather is going to be possibly a very significant problem as you would be crossing a lot of mountains and high altitudes, ice, snow and even blizzards are very much a possibility let alone the cold, even in May. A southern route leaving form southern CA would be much safer and more comfortable INHO.
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 Probably because Roy lives in British Columbia  :laugh:

 It might be a good idea to get South a bit along the coast before starting East . There are several good routes any way you come will require getting over the Rockies and traversing the plains .

 We would certainly love to have you make it Roy , promise not to wear you out with electrical questions  :grin:

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Re: The 2020 Wild Guzzi National in Cedar Vale May 7-11
« Reply #2917 on: January 07, 2020, 09:20:40 AM »
Kiwi Roy - I assume you want to avoid interstate highways, but I70 from Grand Junction to Denver is a beautiful drive.  If you go that way, you could meet up with some of the Colorado riders in Denver and ride the rest of the way together.  I’m planning on going this year if I get good news from the oncologist in February.
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Re: The 2020 Wild Guzzi National in Cedar Vale May 7-11
« Reply #2918 on: January 07, 2020, 08:51:10 PM »
Kiwi Roy - I assume you want to avoid interstate highways, but I70 from Grand Junction to Denver is a beautiful drive.  If you go that way, you could meet up with some of the Colorado riders in Denver and ride the rest of the way together.  I’m planning on going this year if I get good news from the oncologist in February.

That's probably the most scenic interstate highway in the US. Particularly  from Glenwood Springs to the Ike Tunnel.   

But the roads and scenery get better driving the passes like Independence and Monarch Passes.   Some are closed until May.  I would watch the weather and spring for a motel.  Maybe hit the passes on the way back?

I'd like to do a rally in beautiful British Columbia.  I would posit that the ride will be more scenic than the destination.
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Re: The 2020 Wild Guzzi National in Cedar Vale May 7-11
« Reply #2919 on: January 07, 2020, 09:40:45 PM »
Monarch will be open in May.  Independence is iffy.  If you come this way, I’ll map out a route. 

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Re: The 2020 Wild Guzzi National in Cedar Vale May 7-11
« Reply #2920 on: January 07, 2020, 10:49:15 PM »
Chuck—I want to see the Batfish too!!!  But I think Dusty gets freaked out about anything relating to submarines and doesn’t like to talk about them.  It was damaged in the flooding Oklahoma recently experienced, and I’m not sure of its current status.

USS Cavalla is in Galveson, TX.  So reasonably close to Cedhur Veil, Kansas. 

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Re: The 2020 Wild Guzzi National in Cedar Vale May 7-11
« Reply #2921 on: January 08, 2020, 04:45:10 AM »
SmithSwede,

If you have interest in the WW II submarines, check out the book "Final Patrol" by Don Keith.  It's a soft back book and good, used copies are available for <$10.  I had our local book store order one for me.  It discusses the history of (16) US submarines that are currently located around the country and available for public viewing.  It also discusses the U-505 which is in the museum in Chicago.  I have seen it also but it was a school trip decades ago and I remember little about it.

Thanks for the info on the Batfish.  I'll do some checking to see if it is available for tours.  I saw it a couple of years ago but, as I said, my goal this year is to see as many of them as possible, and it is on the list.

FYI, another one that's close to Cedar Vale is the USS Razorback (SS-394).  The book says it is located at the Arkansas Inland Maritime Museum in North Little Rock, Arkansas.  I'm trying to figure out how to route my trip in that direction, either going out or on the return, to see it.

Once again, thanks for the information and ride safe.
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Re: The 2020 Wild Guzzi National in Cedar Vale May 7-11
« Reply #2922 on: January 08, 2020, 05:52:26 AM »
SmithSwede,

If you have interest in the WW II submarines, check out the book "Final Patrol" by Don Keith.  It's a soft back book and good, used copies are available for <$10.  I had our local book store order one for me.  It discusses the history of (16) US submarines that are currently located around the country and available for public viewing.  It also discusses the U-505 which is in the museum in Chicago.  I have seen it also but it was a school trip decades ago and I remember little about it.

Thanks for the info on the Batfish.  I'll do some checking to see if it is available for tours.  I saw it a couple of years ago but, as I said, my goal this year is to see as many of them as possible, and it is on the list.

FYI, another one that's close to Cedar Vale is the USS Razorback (SS-394).  The book says it is located at the Arkansas Inland Maritime Museum in North Little Rock, Arkansas.  I'm trying to figure out how to route my trip in that direction, either going out or on the return, to see it.

Once again, thanks for the information and ride safe.

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Re: The 2020 Wild Guzzi National in Cedar Vale May 7-11
« Reply #2923 on: January 08, 2020, 09:29:29 AM »
Lots of drift indeed!

When my squadron was moved to the east coast, had a chance to take a ride on a los angles class fast attract with an over night-er  out of new London..

Fun but scary, they actually "fly" the thing under water with aircraft type controls!! It was the Rickover. Was happy when we came back up, had my doubts.

Why would anybody want to serve on a boat that sinks on purpose, Ha!

I have since been on a couple of diesel boats, one in Sydney harbor at the museum there (Russian I seem to  remember), and the one at Little Rock AR.

The difference in size and accommodations are an order of magnitude.

No thanks...

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Re: The 2020 Wild Guzzi National in Cedar Vale May 7-11
« Reply #2924 on: January 08, 2020, 05:15:17 PM »
SmithSwede,

I called the Batfish number today and found out the boat experienced serious damage recently due to flooding conditions.  They are not expecting to be able to have tours much before May or even later.  Doesn't sound too good for a tour in May of this year.
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Re: The 2020 Wild Guzzi National in Cedar Vale May 7-11
« Reply #2925 on: January 08, 2020, 05:26:04 PM »
Yep, the Batfish floated some distance in the flood and flopped on it side.  Dusty probably has the details but I am guessing they have to tow it back and remount it.  Not easy consider that it's as long as football field.   And yes it's tight inside and everything is steel and iron.  I would imagine that a sailor could get bruised and bloodied on a stroll to the toilet.

My motorcycle club takes a ride there from OKC once a year.  The ride leader served on a nuke sub in the 60s and likes to give a tour.  I can give out the dates of the ride and tour this year if you're interested. 
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Re: The 2020 Wild Guzzi National in Cedar Vale May 7-11
« Reply #2926 on: January 08, 2020, 05:32:16 PM »
 I only know the damned thing came loose from its moorings and tried to float down the river , sorry , as far as I'm concerned it should be recycled and turned into something useful .

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Re: The 2020 Wild Guzzi National in Cedar Vale May 7-11
« Reply #2927 on: January 08, 2020, 06:43:58 PM »
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Why would anybody want to serve on a boat that sinks on purpose, Ha!

I have to agree, but..
The Kid's sweetie Nora's dad Fritz (RIP) :sad: was on the sub that is docked in Pittsburg during the Cuban missile crisis.  When I talked to him about it, he said he'd do it again in a heartbeat. "One of the best times of my life.."
He was an aviator, too.. and Nora's first passenger when she got her license. Great guy.
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Re: The 2020 Wild Guzzi National in Cedar Vale May 7-11
« Reply #2928 on: January 08, 2020, 07:11:46 PM »

My motorcycle club takes a ride there from OKC once a year.  The ride leader served on a nuke sub in the 60s and likes to give a tour.  I can give out the dates of the ride and tour this year if you're interested.

I would like to see it again.
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Re: The 2020 Wild Guzzi National in Cedar Vale May 7-11
« Reply #2929 on: January 08, 2020, 08:47:15 PM »
I have to agree, but..
The Kid's sweetie Nora's dad Fritz (RIP) :sad: was on the sub that is docked in Pittsburg during the Cuban missile crisis.  When I talked to him about it, he said he'd do it again in a heartbeat. "One of the best times of my life.."
He was an aviator, too.. and Nora's first passenger when she got her license. Great guy.


Like aviators' the submariners are a very tight  group. I suppose the duty is a special thing like aircraft and I was comfortable and found it a unique experience that I am glad I did it.

Give me the wild blue yonder.

Had an Uncle that was in the submarine service in the pacific WWII and returned in one piece. He didn't like to talk much about the experience.

People can and do adapt to just about anything, my uncle wouldn't go up in an airplane.

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Re: The 2020 Wild Guzzi National in Cedar Vale May 7-11
« Reply #2930 on: January 08, 2020, 10:27:43 PM »
I would like to see it again.

I'd do the ride but the sub?  BTDT. 

It might be a good stop on the way to the EuoRaid late May at Marble Falls ARK.   I need to get a thread going on that.
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Re: The 2020 Wild Guzzi National in Cedar Vale May 7-11
« Reply #2931 on: January 08, 2020, 10:33:56 PM »
I log on here to get the latest scoop on the National, and all I get is a bunch of Batfish craziness!  But I guess Batfish crazy and Guzzi Rally sort of go together.   :grin: :evil:
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Re: The 2020 Wild Guzzi National in Cedar Vale May 7-11
« Reply #2932 on: January 08, 2020, 11:00:46 PM »
At least it's not an oil thread!!!!

I like reading about the experiences of the brave men and women that did so much for so little recognition.

Thread drift..ehhh..who cares.

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Re: The 2020 Wild Guzzi National in Cedar Vale May 7-11
« Reply #2933 on: January 09, 2020, 04:39:41 AM »
My younger brother served on the USS Halfbeak (SS-352) from '57-'61.  He said it was great duty, plus they received hazardous duty pay (thanks to Teddy Roosevelt) at all times.

A little known fact:  the US lost 52 subs during WW II.  This resulted in a casualty rate of 22%, the highest percentage of any of the services during the war.
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« Reply #2934 on: January 09, 2020, 07:14:58 AM »
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This resulted in a casualty rate of 22%,
Wow!
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Re: The 2020 Wild Guzzi National in Cedar Vale May 7-11
« Reply #2935 on: January 09, 2020, 09:02:07 AM »
A few years ago, we toured the US and Russian subs which are moored in San Diego.  Both are amazing ships.  The tour guide on the Russian sub told us that the US submariners were all volunteers, but that the Russians were draftees.  What if a Russian submariner-draftee was claustrophobic (claustrophobia comes to mind as soon as you enter a sub)?  He was told, “Get over it.” 

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Re: The 2020 Wild Guzzi National in Cedar Vale May 7-11
« Reply #2936 on: January 09, 2020, 10:24:44 AM »
Spacing out the name for a movement, but toured a retired but current design diesel sub in Portland some years back. It was the sub that did the surface breach at the end of the movie "Hunt for Red October". Not me, thank you! In our group was a retired submariner, he had done three tours attack and boomers. He said one or two crew members would basically "lose it" a tour, they were placed in sickbay and sedated as needed for the rest of the cruise.
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Re: The 2020 Wild Guzzi National in Cedar Vale May 7-11
« Reply #2937 on: January 09, 2020, 11:33:19 AM »
A few years ago, we toured the US and Russian subs which are moored in San Diego.  Both are amazing ships.  The tour guide on the Russian sub told us that the US submariners were all volunteers, but that the Russians were draftees.  What if a Russian submariner-draftee was claustrophobic (claustrophobia comes to mind as soon as you enter a sub)?  He was told, “Get over it.”   

It's my understanding that if any US submarine sailor, regardless of rank or rate, no longer wants to serve on a sub, a simple request to be transferred is all that it takes. 

I don't think I'm claustrophobic but I'm not certain I could serve in a sub, particularly one of the nuclear types where they submerge and stay down for weeks/months at a time.  On the other hand, I wouldn't trade my time in the surface navy for anything I've experienced in my life.
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Re: The 2020 Wild Guzzi National in Cedar Vale May 7-11
« Reply #2938 on: January 09, 2020, 12:27:29 PM »
It isn't well known how high the loss rate was. I grew up just a short distance from the sub base in Groton (New London) hence I have always been interested in submarines. I wanted to enlist in the Navy when I was being "considered" for military service. Submarine service would have been my choice, however the Navy had a waiting list so I wound up in the Army. I have subsequently read a lot of books about the Silent Service during the Second World war. It is a fascinating but disturbing thing to read about. Submariners that were never heard from again and unknown what happened to them are considered to be still on patrol.

When I was a wee lad in the Cub Scouts our den was taken to the sub base to tour a diesel boat that was still on active duty. Some of the crew was still on board. The main things I remember were how cramped it was and the odors of coffee, cigarette smoke and diesel all mingled together. To say it stunk was a major understatement.

A few years ago I chaparoned a couple school field trips part of which included an overnight stay on the Pampanito in San Francisco Bay. I slept on a couch in the ward room. As part of my duties I had to stand a 2 hour fire watch. This gave me a whole two hours to prowl throughout the whole boat. I find it hard to imagine how those guys could stand to spend 2.5 months crammed into one of those things with those huge diesels hammering away almost constantly except when they were dodging the enemy below the surface. It is hard for me to understand how our guys went through what they did during WWII whether it was on the ground, in the air or on/under the sea.  I would like to think I could have done it too but I just don't know. I had an uncle who was in Buchenwald and Stalag 17 and he never talked about any of it.
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Re: The 2020 Wild Guzzi National in Cedar Vale May 7-11
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Cedar Vale Summery  bump 2/16/2020

May 7-11. 2020
Cedar Vale, Kansas

Rally Fees
$25.00 single
$35.00 couples
Check or Money Order To:
Dusty Turner
P.O. Box 1223
Muskogee, OK 74401

Fee includes
Catfish Dinner on Saturday Night
Use of the very large pavilion, nearby restrooms and the shower.
Tent or RV camping.
Tent camping throughout the park.  Water spigots nearby.
RV Sites have water and electricy.
Please reserve RV sites early.

Cedar Vale Amenities
Short Stop Convenience Store and Hunting Lodge
Basis supplies and gas.
Check with Shawne Fulson for rooms at the Lodge.
620-758-2263 or 620-216-0099

Other Lodgings
Cedar Creek Lodge 620-249-9362
Hunters Roost  620-758-2498.

Groceries
Cedar Vale Market 620-758-5090

Restaurant
Hilltop 620-758-5075.

Liquor Store
Red Door Spirits
620-785-5050

More info. about Cedar Vale
https://cedarvalekansas.com


Nearby attractions.

Woolaroc Museum and Wildlife Preserve
An amazing collection of Native American and Western art and memorabilia on spectacular grounds. 
https://woolaroc.org

Osage Nation Museum
Wonderful exhibits about the Osage Nation and their culture.
https://www.osagenation-nsn.gov/museum

OSAGE COUNTY HISTORICAL SOCIETY MUSEUM
700 North Lynn Avenue, Pawhuska, Oklahoma
Phone: (918) 287-9119

The Price Tower
19 Story skyscraper designed by Frank Loyde Wright in 1956.
It houses a art center and hotel.
Tours available.
http://www.pricetower.org

Ride through a Wind Farm.
Oklahoma is the second largest producer of wind power in the U.S.
A ride through the rolling hills flanked by giant wind turbines is a treat.


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Single ticket $20.00
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Schedule

Wednesday Early Arrivals.
     

Thursday
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Friday
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      Dinner by Cedar Vale Chamber of Commerce.
      Donations support the Chamber.

Saturday
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        Donations benefit the Club.
       
       Dessert Lunch and Bike Show.  Downtown. 
       Donations benefit the  museum.

        Dinner Catfish and fixings by Dusty.

Sunday

         Breakfast in town then head home.
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