Author Topic: Project Live Wire - Electric Harley Davidson merged threadfest (Read 79599 times)

bad Chad · « **Reply #210 on:** January 12, 2019, 12:15:21 PM »

Lannis did a nice job of explaining what I meant on reply 125.

Rough Edge racing · « **Reply #211 on:** January 12, 2019, 12:15:55 PM »

Quote from: jas67 on January 12, 2019, 09:41:15 AM

Probably a failure of the safety controls that are designed to change the pitch of the blades to keep the speed controlled.
It looks like it spun to fast, resulting in blade failure from excessive centripetal force.

That's a typical failure from an over speeding prop.. There are also a braking system...But in real live stuff does happen...And what the mechanic in the field sees and what's reported might be different...Huge generators weighing dozens of tons anchored into concrete in the controlled environment of generating plants can run for years and are easily observed...It's may a lot different for smaller units a few hundred feet off the earth subject to the weather...

Lannis · « **Reply #212 on:** January 12, 2019, 03:25:41 PM »

Quote from: bad Chad on January 12, 2019, 12:15:21 PM

Lannis did a nice job of explaining what I meant on reply 125.

oldbike54 · « **Reply #213 on:** January 12, 2019, 04:34:23 PM »

Nope nope nope . Clean up on aisle 9

Dusty

inditx · « **Reply #214 on:** January 14, 2019, 09:51:01 AM »

Quote from: bad Chad on January 10, 2019, 02:48:37 PM

Let's talk about this again on 2/25/19. Zero Motorcycles will release an entirely new platform, that I suspect will crush the HD on any front that matters, even though they already have!

https://www.zeromotorcycles.com

rdbandkab · « **Reply #215 on:** January 17, 2019, 08:05:02 AM »

I think I found the electric Guzzi emblem...

Having a redhead in the sales pamphlet won't hurt!

inditx · « **Reply #216 on:** January 17, 2019, 09:32:22 AM »

Hah, sweet.....

twowheeladdict · « **Reply #217 on:** January 17, 2019, 12:50:45 PM »

Quote from: rdbandkab on January 17, 2019, 08:05:02 AM

I think I found the electric Guzzi emblem...

Having a redhead in the sales pamphlet won't hurt!

j

Now I know why that movie made a Billion Dollars worldwide.

keener · « **Reply #218 on:** January 17, 2019, 08:19:42 PM »

Quote from: Lannis on January 08, 2019, 10:01:03 AM

Wow, have I been hearing THAT for a long time. We DON'T yet know that it's coming, we DON'T have to start embracing the idea, and the internal combustion engine as we know it will still be the main mode of motive force on the roads for our great-grandchildren .....

And that is the fact Jack

keener · « **Reply #219 on:** January 17, 2019, 08:38:09 PM »

Hmmm .........what else can you buy in a motorcycle for $29,700......or even half of that?

Simple....stupid price , impractical tech, kinda ugly , no soul .... and HD will loose a lot more money than they already have .....2 years bye bye

weevee · « **Reply #220 on:** January 18, 2019, 03:36:51 AM »

Lightning have just announced a follow-up bike to its ($40,000) LS218 - at under $13,000. It's addressed a lot of E-bike issues, and is available from March: https://electrek.co/2019/01/17/lightning-electric-motorcycle-strike/

twowheeladdict · « **Reply #221 on:** January 18, 2019, 11:59:34 AM »

Quote from: keener on January 17, 2019, 08:38:09 PM

Hmmm .........what else can you buy in a motorcycle for $29,700......or even half of that?

Simple....stupid price , impractical tech, kinda ugly , no soul .... and HD will loose a lot more money than they already have .....2 years bye bye

How many one to two year bikes have the Japanese produced?

Many.

I'm glad Harley is trying new things. I'm glad the Japanese try new things. Of course the Japanese motorcycle manufacturers have other business ventures to keep them in the black which allows them the freedom to explore new opportunities.

Honda showed a self balancing bike. Yamaha came out with the Niken

weevee · « **Reply #222 on:** March 07, 2019, 07:44:30 AM »

A sneak look at Lightning's new 'Strike' electric m'cycle mentioned above. Covered in stickers for road-testing, but showing some of its features. If the reports are true, this could tempt many away from ICE. It's to be unveiled some time this month.

oldbike54 · « **Reply #223 on:** March 07, 2019, 08:22:46 AM »

Quote from: weevee on March 07, 2019, 07:44:30 AM

A sneak look at Lightning's new 'Strike' electric m'cycle mentioned above. Covered in stickers for road-testing, but showing some of its features. If the reports are true, this could tempt many away from ICE. It's to be unveiled some time this month.

Interesting , although I am sceptical of the price point/performance claims . Also , from what I know about battery tech , the battery life will be seriously reduced if the fast charge option gets employed very often .

Dusty

Ncdan · « **Reply #224 on:** July 15, 2019, 09:01:11 AM »

HD just made a public announcement on Fox News. The new electric MC. I’ll try to remember some of the particulars.
30,000 bucks
0-60 time 3 seconds
100 mile range on the highway and 120 city
They are looking to develop a new market of buyers, the well to do and youth.
Personally I’m not interested but this is definitely “ plowing new ground “ as us older country boys say. I wish them the best of luck.

PJPR01 · « **Reply #225 on:** July 15, 2019, 09:14:25 AM »

Yes indeed....It's a Greenie...going to make the V11 Guzzi Greenie...green with envy!

oldbike54 · « **Reply #226 on:** July 15, 2019, 09:42:19 AM »

My nephew the Harley salesman is no longer selling them . He tendered his *I quit* Friday morning after 10 years of being one of the top salesman in the country , averaging over 300 units per year sold . We were discussing the Livewire , he laughed out loud at the idea that Harley is gonna sell these bikes at 30 K . The MoCo is being run by people who simply don't understand that market . Heck , Zero MC's is and has been the industry leader in the E bike market for years , they build a superior product for less money . Remember , the Livewire was developed from the old Brammo , which wouldn't sell either , the MoCo would be better served by building an affordable product , or maybe take all of their cash and invest it in Pork futures

Dusty

Testarossa · « **Reply #227 on:** July 15, 2019, 09:48:45 AM »

The affordable Harley electric already exists.

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$100, free shipping

Mayor_of_BBQ · « **Reply #228 on:** July 15, 2019, 10:32:55 AM »

The price point is way out of line.... but then again , when has selling a slower, lower-tech version of a modern motorcycle for 20% more $$ than the competition ever stopped HD?

Their loyalists don't want it, their target market can't afford it, and it's barely even middle of the pack performance-wise among it's competitors.
They are gonna take quite a hit on this, then say "the market isn't ready", "the tech isnt there yet"

PJPR01 · « **Reply #229 on:** July 15, 2019, 10:47:36 AM »

I don't think the traditional Harley market is the target market for this, electric lifestyle doesn't mesh with doo rags and vests anyway.

It's going to be folks who have money (think Tesla owners or now high end Audi, BMW, Volvo electric/hybrid) owners who want a "Harley" looking bike, but that is "green in nature". That new crowd has the money to spend, whether it's $20K, $25K or $30K.

It might be a total flop, but I think they are banking on a totally different class of folks to buy this bike.

jas67 · « **Reply #230 on:** July 15, 2019, 10:54:11 AM »

Quote from: oldbike54 on July 15, 2019, 09:42:19 AM

Remember , the Livewire was developed from the old Brammo....

Brammo was bought by Polaris (Victory). Did Harley buy the IP from them?

bad Chad · « **Reply #231 on:** July 15, 2019, 10:59:20 AM »

But the Tesla, unlike the HD, delivers the goods for its higher price point. The Live wire is priced about double what it should be bast on performance. I get HD feels their name entitles them to ask more than a company like Zero, but they are dreaming if they believe this is going to work.

Testarossa · « **Reply #232 on:** July 15, 2019, 11:38:18 AM »

Quote

It's going to be folks who have money (think Tesla owners or now high end Audi, BMW, Volvo electric/hybrid) owners who want a "Harley" looking bike, but that is "green in nature".

This crowd doesn't exist. Tesla-Audi-BMW-Volvo buyers are sophisticated people and in their minds the Harley brand means heavy, inefficient, overpriced 1960s technology.

JJ · « **Reply #233 on:** July 15, 2019, 11:43:51 AM »

I think it's high time for an affordable...motori zed...two-wheel alternative like..."THE BIG KAHUNA!!"

On fleaBAY now...for $299....(as a kit!!)

JJ · « **Reply #234 on:** July 15, 2019, 11:45:29 AM »

Quote from: Testarossa on July 15, 2019, 09:48:45 AM

The affordable Harley electric already exists.

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$100, free shipping

That's "THE LITTLE KAHUNA!!" (

- See my post...

arveno · « **Reply #235 on:** July 15, 2019, 12:04:50 PM »

It’s not the price, it’s the concept.
An electric motorcycle?
Hell no !!!!

Not even for free....

bad Chad · « **Reply #236 on:** July 15, 2019, 12:07:03 PM »

I’m certain you have never ridden one.

JoeW · « **Reply #237 on:** July 15, 2019, 12:10:56 PM »

Electric vehicles are the rage, everyone is coming out with one. I was behind a Tesla the other day and his license plate read "NOGAS" Here in Illinois it should read, 48% low sulfur coal 49% enriched Uranium and 3% other.

kirb · « **Reply #238 on:** July 15, 2019, 12:14:57 PM »

This announcement is a bit old...the livewire has been news for awhile.

These are never intended to sell in large numbers. They know that. They are laying the groundwork for electric models that have a price range...this is designed to be at the top of that range.

View this bike like the Vrod Destroyer... they want one on the floor. They don't have much intention of selling a bunch of them. It was a planned failure with other motives...like getting the idea of an electric bike in front of the faithful.

HD is about 10 years behind getting new blood. The ADV bike and naked street fighter are grasping for dying market share a few years too late.

kirb · « **Reply #239 on:** July 15, 2019, 12:17:04 PM »

Quote from: arveno on July 15, 2019, 12:04:50 PM

It’s not the price, it’s the concept.
An electric motorcycle? Hell no !!!! Not even for free....

They are coming. Change is in the air. Gasoline isn't going away tomorrow, but you are watching the future unfold.

yea, yea...we're getting off your lawn.

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