Author Topic: "Super" Lario/LM1 SB clone build w/Bubs music (Read 73135 times)

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #180 on:** March 13, 2015, 11:08:07 AM »

Quote from: kevdog3019 on March 13, 2015, 09:10:56 AM

They told me no clear coat with this stuff is all. If I did they said an enamel clear coat. It's the reaction stuff that COULD take place. I don't kno what to believe anymore. I have an enamel clear at home. Chuck may know options here?? Can I do as Mike suggests?

There is too much science involved in this stuff for these dudes that sell and tell you how to apply it. I think they've been around too many fumes to remember. :P

Not as far as I know. Look, I'm not a painter, but I can paint. I've had to learn to do it on airplanes. If you do enamel right, you won't need a clear coat. Base coat clear coat is much more forgiving than enamel, fwiw. What I'm telling you is what my kid taught me. He *is* a painter.. retired, thankfully.
If it were me, I'd wait a week before sanding, and try again. The way I told you is the way I've been taught. Painting is an art, there are *many* pitfalls. I've done most of them.. ;D

kevdog3019 · « **Reply #181 on:** March 13, 2015, 12:39:27 PM »

Cool, will do Chuck. Appreciate your experience.

Muzz · « **Reply #182 on:** March 13, 2015, 04:46:03 PM »

I guess I cheat, I have always used acrylic lacquer. ::)

Painted a few cars and odds and sods; always came out reasonably well. I think you have just put me off ever trying to do enamel!

kevdog3019 · « **Reply #183 on:** March 14, 2015, 03:42:34 PM »

Alright, sanded off the nasty and re-shot it today. Better, but certainly not perfect. Will put it on the bike as is and run with it for awhile. I layed it on good as I saw the same thing happening as before. Unfortunately I ended up with some saging at the bottom (see photo). Should be low enough for the casual passerby to not notice. I will find out when it's on the bike. Not without a little orangepeel but close to my OEM tanks paint. The bike ain't a gem.

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #184 on:** March 14, 2015, 04:42:03 PM »

;D
Which one's the fresh paint?

kevdog3019 · « **Reply #185 on:** March 14, 2015, 04:48:00 PM »

Quote from: Chuck in Indiana on March 14, 2015, 04:42:03 PM

;D
Which one's the fresh paint?

Certainly not as perfectly smooth as that but you have a REAL sprayer and I'm dealing with a Preval job for $7.00 (GC). I will say this, I've got one heck of a shine going. Didn't realize what's possible with this. It's pretty deep. I guess that's the reward.

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #186 on:** March 14, 2015, 04:55:52 PM »

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It's pretty deep. I guess that's the reward.

Yep. Enamel done right is really glossy, and you don't get into the labor of sanding, sanding, polishing,clear coating, etc. It's a tremendous labor saver on something as big as an airplane..

kevdog3019 · « **Reply #187 on:** March 16, 2015, 01:39:20 PM »

Mounted fairing today. Taking on the look I want.

Petrus Rocks · « **Reply #188 on:** March 17, 2015, 08:09:56 AM »

Looks very nice! Painting is practice.
How is the comfort of the seat? Does it keep you in one place or is it easy to move fore and aft?

kevdog3019 · « **Reply #189 on:** March 17, 2015, 08:40:14 AM »

Quote from: Petrus Rocks on March 17, 2015, 08:09:56 AM

Looks very nice! Painting is practice.
How is the comfort of the seat? Does it keep you in one place or is it easy to move fore and aft?

The seat is quite stunning. It's the original pan and fitment, however, it lays flat on the frame rails. Stock seat sloped upward in the rear which wants to slightly tilt the pelvis forward and also puts more pressure on the hands/wrists. I'm not a fan of that though it was only slight. So, this is as very neutral and alleviates those negatives. No building up of foam as the lowered seating was perfect for my neck/wrists/center of gravity. The front rounded shape that transitions to the tank makes it very comfortable for the inner thighs as it's one seamless piece; never had something feel so smooth. Feel good about how it all worked out. No motion for/aft but room to move if you want (small ass here).

tusong200 · « **Reply #190 on:** March 17, 2015, 08:59:57 AM »

Looking good!

I do a lot of spraying in my "day job" (guitar-building). I can't help you with the Preval system since I have no experience. I have a spray booth and 'real' guns, both conventional and HVLP.

However, I would suggest that whenever possible spray any item as horizontally as possible. That is, lay the item flat rather than hang it vertically. I would have tried to support the fairing from the inside with the headlight hole facing up. I would then place it on a turnstile with good light from more than one source. Very easy to spray (and see) with the object spinning in front of you and stable light sources.

For next time!

kevdog3019 · « **Reply #191 on:** March 17, 2015, 09:32:20 AM »

Quote from: tusong200 on March 17, 2015, 08:59:57 AM

Looking good!

I do a lot of spraying in my "day job" (guitar-building). I can't help you with the Preval system since I have no experience. I have a spray booth and 'real' guns, both conventional and HVLP.

However, I would suggest that whenever possible spray any item as horizontally as possible. That is, lay the item flat rather than hang it vertically. I would have tried to support the fairing from the inside with the headlight hole facing up. I would then place it on a turnstile with good light from more than one source. Very easy to spray (and see) with the object spinning in front of you and stable light sources.

For next time!

I totally agree. The edges are an issue is all. So many important edges to hit. as well as the backside the first time around. It's a tough little piece. Thanks for the advice though and will try to do that if there's a next time around and I decide to try it. It fits with the old-school job done on the tank. That's got orange peel also from the factory, though minor.

mwrenn · « **Reply #192 on:** March 17, 2015, 11:49:58 PM »

Man, that is looking good, coming together nicely! Riding weather soon.....

kevdog3019 · « **Reply #193 on:** March 18, 2015, 04:51:09 AM »

Thanks Mike. Went for first start-up of the season and turned on the spigots only to find gas dribbling all over. Leak at the crossover junction. Hate those fu€<#%¥ things... so ordered double banjos and quality clear gas line and will be done with that nonsense. Had enough in the bowls to fire her up though. Bubs music.

steven c · « **Reply #194 on:** March 18, 2015, 08:25:04 AM »

I painted my 77 LeMans with enamel and of course had orange peel and some drips, so I wet sanded it with some 1500 then buffed it out, it came out okay but I could never get that great gloss back. One of these days I'll try again.

mwrenn · « **Reply #195 on:** March 19, 2015, 08:38:13 PM »

Yeah man! Love that sound!

Warren Rhen · « **Reply #196 on:** March 20, 2015, 05:27:52 PM »

I may have missed it in your write up somewhere but how did you get your pipes upswept? Just bend the crossover?
That bike would look really cool with one of those new scrambler pipe kits for the v7.

kevdog3019 · « **Reply #197 on:** March 20, 2015, 09:00:51 PM »

Quote from: Warren Rhen on March 20, 2015, 05:27:52 PM

I may have missed it in your write up somewhere but how did you get your pipes upswept? Just bend the crossover?
That bike would look really cool with one of those new scrambler pipe kits for the v7.

No Warren, just stock Bubs made for the Lario. They have a good upsweep on them. Everything else stock with regard to headers.

kevdog3019 · « **Reply #198 on:** March 20, 2015, 09:03:49 PM »

Got rid of the crossover web that started weeping. Went to a double banjo and quality hose (Motion Pro) so I can see what's going on and add simplicity.

mwrenn · « **Reply #199 on:** March 20, 2015, 10:18:36 PM »

Man... Gonna be warm soon!!! Time to ride that bad bike! Cool fix with the banjo fitting.

father guzzi obrian · « **Reply #200 on:** March 20, 2015, 11:16:04 PM »

I use clear tubing, you need more hose clamps, they are cheap (guzzi content) ;-T

kevdog3019 · « **Reply #201 on:** March 21, 2015, 05:26:07 AM »

Quote from: mwrenn on March 20, 2015, 10:18:36 PM

Man... Gonna be warm soon!!! Time to ride that bad bike! Cool fix with the banjo fitting.

Yes, it is! We've had some spikes in temp lately so there have been windows of opportunity, however, between painting, etc. I've had to bow out. But, we have lots of salt still on the roads because we've had NO precipitation in over two weeks since the thaw began. Getting cold again but hopefully we get rain next week. I'll take the sunshine no doubt but we need to get this grime and dust off the roads. Please Mother Nature I can ride now. I'll do another startup later today sans gas leak.

I've got 6 hose clamps on 2 lines. :P. Never had a leak at the banjo. Will watch.

kevdog3019 · « **Reply #202 on:** March 21, 2015, 02:07:23 PM »

Bubs music
http://s904.photobucket.com/user/kevin3019/media/Lario/6C09E38C-469B-41B8-90BA-38910ACF1D30_1.mp4.html

edit: Went for a first ride in the cool temps and she climbed up top very nicely. ;-T Sweet ride.

mwrenn · « **Reply #203 on:** March 21, 2015, 05:33:42 PM »

Sounds sweet! Just like mine! That's pretty cool.

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #204 on:** March 21, 2015, 06:28:47 PM »

Larios are bad.. ;D

kevdog3019 · « **Reply #205 on:** March 22, 2015, 03:20:24 PM »

Data point. Did a short run of about 10 min. and tested the battery. I've done only start-ups prior with little to no charging and noticed a drain of course. After my run the battery was showing good results (12.9). I went so far as to hook it up to the tender to see what would happen and within a minute registered full charge (13.13). Moral of the story is I'm confident this small 4 cell will work just fine as long as I don't just start the bike and let it sit for several sessions in a row. I have never done that.

Edit: after doing this write-up I went and checked the battery again in case of a spike from the charger. Yep... registered 12.9 after settling in. The Lario kept it at full charge at run in only a 10-15 min. run. Manufacturer recommends 20 min. runs from what I remember to keep it charged.

mwrenn · « **Reply #206 on:** March 22, 2015, 04:25:51 PM »

Nice, I'd like a smaller battery in mine....hmmmm....

kevdog3019 · « **Reply #207 on:** March 22, 2015, 05:07:08 PM »

Quote from: mwrenn on March 22, 2015, 04:25:51 PM

Nice, I'd like a smaller battery in mine....hmmmm....

Yeah man... this sucker is TINY. Cheap (GC) ;-T

kevdog3019 · « **Reply #208 on:** April 02, 2015, 02:19:58 PM »

Quote from: father guzzi obrian on March 20, 2015, 11:16:04 PM

I use clear tubing, you need more hose clamps, they are cheap (guzzi content) ;-T

The winner is Father Guzzi. Took my second ride last evening and stutter stutter run stutter stutter run. Looked at the lines and saw lots of air. Air was getting sucked into the system at the banjos/no fuel leaks. They expanded at the fitting over the two week period just enough. Bike ran without hesitation on the first outing just after fitting the new lines. They were snug at that time. Thank you Father.
Fixed

wrbix · « **Reply #209 on:** April 02, 2015, 06:37:41 PM »

"Sucked in"??? Don't see how in a gravity fed, non-fuel pumped system. Something about this Lario that atypical? ???

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Author Topic: "Super" Lario/LM1 SB clone build w/Bubs music (Read 73135 times)

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