Author Topic: "Super" Lario/LM1 SB clone build w/Bubs music (Read 73129 times)

kevdog3019 · « **Reply #150 on:** February 22, 2015, 10:37:57 AM »

I fab'd a face plate to hide the reg/rect. Here's the before and after results. The last pic shows the opposite side of which I painted the voltage regulator and moved the fuse box that faced outward into the bike to face the battery. I then removed the old mounts. I need time to think all that stuff out. For now it's cleaner looking. I will tidy up the wiring to the battery now as it's Pretty unkempt looking in there.

mwrenn · « **Reply #151 on:** February 22, 2015, 02:46:24 PM »

That cover looks nice. Powdercoat or paint finish on it? Cleaning up the wiring is well worth it. Have you thought about an Antigravity battery in there? Pricey, but super light, and half the size. They last a long time too.

kevdog3019 · « **Reply #152 on:** February 22, 2015, 04:12:06 PM »

Quote from: mwrenn on February 22, 2015, 02:46:24 PM

That cover looks nice. Powdercoat or paint finish on it? Cleaning up the wiring is well worth it. Have you thought about an Antigravity battery in there? Pricey, but super light, and half the size. They last a long time too.

Hmm... thanks for the tip on the battery. Now, can I go with the XPS SC-1?? I have the perfect place for that under the tank and completely out of sight. The 8 cell is a hint big, the 4 is way small and perfect. I get mixed reviews on the 4 cell doing the job but no official word from users. I sure could go with that!

Paint is Plasti-dip. Easy and good at withstanding chemicals. Can always peel it off also. I like the texture and look.

mwrenn · « **Reply #153 on:** February 22, 2015, 05:13:13 PM »

Quote from: kevdog3019 on February 22, 2015, 04:12:06 PM

Hmm... thanks for the tip on the battery. Now, can I go with the XPS SC-1?? I have the perfect place for that under the tank and completely out of sight. The 8 cell is a hint big, the 4 is way small and perfect. I get mixed reviews on the 4 cell doing the job but no official word from users. I sure could go with that!

Paint is Plasti-dip. Easy and good at withstanding chemicals. Can always peel it off also. I like the texture and look.

Good tip on the paint. I went with a 12 cell mounted right under the seat next to the relays. Ill see if I can get a picture up. I do not know that a 4 cell would do it...it might...???

mwrenn · « **Reply #154 on:** February 23, 2015, 09:41:34 PM »

Here are some pics of my 12 cell under the seat. I made a quick release bracket to hold it in. Nice to be able to mount them on their sides, or upside down..

kevdog3019 · « **Reply #155 on:** February 24, 2015, 07:50:54 AM »

I like that Mike. That gives me some options I hadn't thought about, whether it's for the battery or other things. I'm still considering that 4 cell XPS. It's got the cranking power no doubt but wondering about capacity. 1 inch thick.

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mwrenn · « **Reply #156 on:** February 24, 2015, 08:04:14 AM »

Quote from: kevdog3019 on February 24, 2015, 07:50:54 AM

I like that Mike. That gives me some options I hadn't thought about, whether it's for the battery or other things. I'm still considering that 4 cell XPS. It's got the cranking power no doubt but wondering about capacity. 1 inch thick.

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Man, It being that small gives you all kinds of options. I'm thinking about trying one myself. I could use the room! Lol

kevdog3019 · « **Reply #157 on:** February 28, 2015, 09:08:11 PM »

Received my Antigravity 12oz. battery today. Made up a mounting plate and aluminum battery case. Tomorrow it gets tucked away on the bike.

sign216 · « **Reply #158 on:** March 01, 2015, 06:31:45 AM »

Quote from: mwrenn on February 24, 2015, 08:04:14 AM

Man, It being that small gives you all kinds of options. I'm thinking about trying one myself. I could use the room! Lol

Yea, I'm in the market for a lithium battery too. My lead battery is 6 yrs, and time for replacement.

mwrenn · « **Reply #159 on:** March 01, 2015, 08:35:17 AM »

Quote from: kevdog3019 on February 28, 2015, 09:08:11 PM

Received my Antigravity 12oz. battery today. Made up a mounting plate and aluminum battery case. Tomorrow it gets tucked away on the bike.

That is soooo much better than the lead acid battery. I hope it works good for you, I'd like to get one myself, just for the room....

kevdog3019 · « **Reply #160 on:** March 01, 2015, 01:21:22 PM »

Now on the bike. Bike spins up well with this little guy. Definitely adequate. last pick is with empty battery tray. ;-T

Mayor_of_BBQ · « **Reply #161 on:** March 01, 2015, 02:51:23 PM »

Wow! Tiny!

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mwrenn · « **Reply #162 on:** March 01, 2015, 09:09:39 PM »

Man! That turned out good!!!! Looking forward to see how that battery does in the long run. I bet it will work great.

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #163 on:** March 02, 2015, 05:57:05 AM »

Quote from: mwrenn on March 01, 2015, 09:09:39 PM

Man! That turned out good!!!! Looking forward to see how that battery does in the long run. I bet it will work great.

I gots a dollar that sez it won't work when it's 40 degrees.. ;D

Aaron D. · « **Reply #164 on:** March 02, 2015, 06:57:57 AM »

If it isn't a CAN bus or ride by wire, I have $10 that says it will.

kevdog3019 · « **Reply #165 on:** March 02, 2015, 08:07:37 AM »

Quote from: Chuck in Indiana on March 02, 2015, 05:57:05 AM

I gots a dollar that sez it won't work when it's 40 degrees.. ;D

I'll take that dollar Chuck. Already tested in the cold. Need to heat the battery by either turning on the lights for a bit or hit starter a couple times. After that, she cranks mighty quick for many tries. You just need to understand that these batteries need to "activate" themselves first. Voltage drop was very little after cranking several times. Figured I'd prime the oil for start-up soon. :BEER:

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #166 on:** March 02, 2015, 08:12:55 AM »

Pm me your snail mail addy.. :D
I know about warming them up. I saw a guy on a Triumph cafe take a half hour to start his bike first thing in the morning in 40 degree temps with one, though. Twice.

kevdog3019 · « **Reply #167 on:** March 02, 2015, 08:48:29 AM »

Quote from: Chuck in Indiana on March 02, 2015, 08:12:55 AM

Pm me your snail mail addy.. :D
I know about warming them up. I saw a guy on a Triumph cafe take a half hour to start his bike first thing in the morning in 40 degree temps with one, though. Twice.

I've had a LIPo battery for 3-4 yrs. and never had an issue. I've had it crank slow at first in the cold, then come to life with fast cranking. They say when you fail the first try, when it "activates" it's actually generating its peak output because it gets pretty revved up with activation. Take what some others say with a grain as he may have toasted his somehow. Shouldn't do that according to the science or my experience. I got in pretty early on these batteries. I WOULD NOT use these in a bike with ANY parasitic drain as you can toast them.
Contacting you now.

kevdog3019 · « **Reply #168 on:** March 06, 2015, 09:03:53 AM »

battery compartment freshened up with some paint. LIpo tender came recently and after all the cranking I did on the bike, the battery hadn't hardly lost a beat compared to full charge. ;-T
I will report my findings on its capacity with the bike when I get to riding her; may be awhile. Usually say April 1 around these parts.

mwrenn · « **Reply #169 on:** March 06, 2015, 11:58:35 PM »

:pop :pop :pop

kevdog3019 · « **Reply #170 on:** March 12, 2015, 03:29:14 PM »

Cutting my teeth with this project. First step: Apply paint. Lots of orange peel; probably put too many thin coats on. Will have to sand and apply one thicker coat. This is acrylic enamel. Thanks Chuck for the recipe.

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #171 on:** March 12, 2015, 06:02:58 PM »

Quote from: kevdog3019 on March 12, 2015, 03:29:14 PM

Cutting my teeth with this project. First step: Apply paint. Lots of orange peel; probably put too many thin coats on. Will have to sand and apply one thicker coat. This is acrylic enamel. Thanks Chuck for the recipe.

Sorry, Kev.. but amateur painters *always* do that. You're afraid to run it, and spray too thin a coat. You'll have to completely sand it out to get to a smooth place to start again. Did you read the instructions on the can? I'm too lazy to walk down to the shop and read them, but normally with enamel you spray a light to medium tack coat. **Wait** until it tacks off, roughly 10 minutes. When your finger doesn't turn that color ;D on the over spray next to the part..not on the part.. ::) spray a medium wet cross coat. Walk away. The tack coat keeps the heavier coat from running. Make sense?
Also.. you absolutely have to have enough light to see the gloss as you are spraying. If you can't see that, you're pissin in the wind. ;D

kevdog3019 · « **Reply #172 on:** March 12, 2015, 06:48:30 PM »

Thanks Chuck. Yeah... the guy wasn't specific on this type of paint. The can didn't say how to apply. I called the shop after the fact and got someone who told me how to precede. I also did my research on enamels. Live and learn. Just a little sanding. I'll do as you suggested.

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #173 on:** March 12, 2015, 07:02:00 PM »

Quote from: kevdog3019 on March 12, 2015, 06:48:30 PM

Thanks Chuck. Yeah... the guy wasn't specific on this type of paint. The can didn't say how to apply. I called the shop after the fact and got someone who told me how to precede. I also did my research on enamels. Live and learn. Just a little sanding. I'll do as you suggested.

Enamel separates the men from the boys.. ;) What you spray is what you get.

kevdog3019 · « **Reply #174 on:** March 12, 2015, 07:43:40 PM »

Quote from: Chuck in Indiana on March 12, 2015, 07:02:00 PM

Enamel separates the men from the boys.. ;) What you spray is what you get.

Well, that tells me a lot. ;-T

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #175 on:** March 13, 2015, 05:21:39 AM »

Oh, forgot.. you'll have to wait a week to sand and recoat. You have to give the solvents time to gas out.

kevdog3019 · « **Reply #176 on:** March 13, 2015, 08:29:53 AM »

Quote from: Chuck in Indiana on March 13, 2015, 05:21:39 AM

Oh, forgot.. you'll have to wait a week to sand and recoat. You have to give the solvents time to gas out.

I went in with your cryL II recipe and they couldn't give me that due to the fact I have no professional sprayer. So, having to use a Preval sprayer they gave me something without a catalyst (as they call it). It's a very fast drying acrylic and a much cheaper version of single stage but works with these sprayers. So, I have called them twice now and talked to two different folks. One said I did too many light coats and that's why it lifted. To sand after 24-48 hrs. and do a medium coat (possibly 2) and leave it at that. The guy this morning said I shot it on too thick or didn't wait long enough between. Neither of which I did. He said go light coats with plenty of time between after sanding after 24-48 hrs.
Now you see my confusion as nobody agrees how to shoot this stuff. I WON't do what guy no. 2 says as that didn't work and I know enough that light coats aren't good. I think I will shoot one good medium coat with wet look and see what it gets me after sanding. Maybe add a second. Argh!! Shoot as you suggested? I'd trust your word over theirs certainly.

mwrenn · « **Reply #177 on:** March 13, 2015, 08:37:23 AM »

It took me three weeks to get a barely acceptable paint job on my gas tank. Spray it on, sand it off, try it again. I finally got it though. You know, you can just wet sand your color with warm water /dawn soap mix. Use 600 grit paper. Don't sand through the color. Once it is smooth, spray clear on it and it's done. Just an idea....

kevdog3019 · « **Reply #178 on:** March 13, 2015, 09:10:56 AM »

They told me no clear coat with this stuff is all. If I did they said an enamel clear coat. It's the reaction stuff that COULD take place. I don't kno what to believe anymore. I have an enamel clear at home. Chuck may know options here?? Can I do as Mike suggests?

There is too much science involved in this stuff for these dudes that sell and tell you how to apply it. I think they've been around too many fumes to remember. :P

Triple Jim · « **Reply #179 on:** March 13, 2015, 09:35:04 AM »

Maybe the paint manufacturer has a tech support guy who will tell you what you need to know.

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