Hi there

[Snowtigeress]

Hi there,Im Donna,and I'm living in the UK

Well after looking bidding and losing for so long I have finally got a Guzzi.


But he's poorly





He's thrown his UJ, and broken the swing arm and gearbox casing.


Ive managed to get a UJ,swingarm and gearbox case and this is like a show and tell....

Donna

[krglorioso]

My, my, but aren't you the ambitious one!  I hope the price paid for the bike was commensurate with the damage shown.  Welcome to this forum and all the tech assistance one could want.

You are yet another living embodiment of the famous Guzzi slogan, "Moto Guzzi; making mechanics out of riders since 1921!"

Ralph
2003 Stone Touring
2004 Stone Touring

[Muzz]

Ouch!!! :o

I assume your moniker "Snowtigress refers to you being a tiger for punishment. ;)

All the best for the rebuild. Once you get it going you will wonder how you ever managed without a Guzzi.

[rodekyll]

That's a dramatic drive shaft right there.  I've not seen one bent like that.  A hammer, JB weld, and a friend to hold your beer while you pound on it should be all it takes to put that bad boy back on the road.   ;D

[Vasco DG]

Its a Strada? Is that atwo valve per cylinder model or a 4V? If the latter the buggered gearbox is probably only the beginning of the pain.

Pete

[Sasquatch Jim]

  Why did you cut off your head in the picture

[Rob Morton]

If you were not already aware?

http://www.rebootguzzispares.com/

This outfit should be able to help with second hand bits.
English speaking based in France, so onerous import duty.

 :)

Rob

[Snowtigeress]

  Why did you cut off your head in the picture

B/F only had the bike in shot on that one so I cropped it even nearer to the bike

[Snowtigeress]

Well I picked up the bike on the !5th of April

This is my second Project

4 years ago I knew not much about bikes,I wanted to take on a project to learn mechanics

I built this:


From this



Then got my full licence on him

[Snowtigeress]

I work 12 out of 14 days a fortnight

on the 27th of april my first weekend off after buying the bike it

took 3 hours to get it to this



SO time to crack out the spanners:



Dont you just love these little Tonti Guzzi's  how easy was that!All the faff I had getting the engine out the super dream!O/H there being panto horse rear end,is very jealous having spent 2 days trying to get his engine out/in.

So,the damage....

Well, this is where the UJ went, and it HAS completely smashed the swing-arm pivot off the gearbox as well as the out-put shaft tunnel. There's no way this could have really been built back up with aluminium weld.

Swing Arm, off.
UJ's taken a pretty big chunk out of it, BUT. The main side sections of the arm and the webbings in the brace are undamaged. It's only taken out the bottom of the shaft tube. If I really struggle to find a replacement swing-arm, this might be repairable with ali-weld.

What was that? It's Peed on me!
Hmm... well THAT hole in the gearbox wasn't made by the Universal joint 'going'!
That looks more like some-one has tried levering the end-casing off without undoing something!

So gear-box now off,ready to be rebuilt with new casing.

Question:The bikes done 24000 miles. looks like its never been split open since it left the factory.going by all this black dust;


Full Blogs on both my project can be read here

http://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=199042&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
First Project

http://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=288977

Second Project

[Snowtigeress]

1st of may after work

Cogs & Dogs

Well, the Swing-arm turned up on time. But, need to sort this cog-box out.

According to the book, box comes apart from the front; and first job, that big nut has to come off.

The broken end of the UJ and a broken socket extension makes a convenient shaft locking tool, with the box in first.

That nut be BIG! 36mm... well TEF tells me that's VERY big! He doesn't have ANYTHING so huge!
And to get over the end of the shaft I needed a 'deep' socket.
Luckily some people have bigger tools than Tef... and Nick sorted me out with something better fitting!

Nuts off; time to get screwed... sorry, get the screws OUT!

Quick Smack

Bell-Housing off.

Next nut's not so big; but THIS is why previous owner mechanic broke the end casing.
This shaft holds the two casings together; held in by that nut, and a retaining plate on the end casing.

There you go, the nut off. Who called this the 'Stubborn two-ton torque nut of doom?" Oh, that's right, every-one who has tried taking a Moto-Guzzi Gearbox to bits!
Pah! I dont know what they were sewating over... Took me all of ten minutes!
I just took it round the corner to local engine reconditioners and got THEM to do it :-)
Thank-You cylinder Rebores, Nuneaton!

Main casing then lifts off, leaving ALL the shafts in the end casing. SCARY!

See, these are the retaining plates, once these are undone...


The gear-shafts and selector mechanism can be pulled out of the end casing.

[Cheese]

You're making it look simple! Keep up the good work and stay in touch.

Good luck with the project,
Peter

[M0T0Geezer]

Hi there,Im Donna,and I'm living in the UK
Well after looking bidding and losing for so long I have finally got a Guzzi.
But he's poorly...
Donna

Now there's an understatement!  You are far braver that I would ever be for such an undertaking.  Thanks for the outstanding photos documenting your journey into the dark places only an unfortunate few of us will ever have to see.

Please keep us posted with more as your restoration proceeds.

'Geezer

[chuck peterson]

looks like a lot of fun...thanks for the pics...good luck ;-T

[Morizzi]

Welcome to the Guzzi world and more specifically welcome to the small block world.

An article you may find useful:

http://guzzista.wikifoundry.com/page/Older+Small+Block+Issues%3F

Lots of small block parts in the UK.

There is a steel bush that can fit inside of the output casting to protect from the carnage your bike has. TLM sell them. I purchased one but it didn't fit so I made up my own. PM me if interested and I'll send you the dimensions. I'm sure they are here somewhere.

Looks like you are comfortable with the mechanical side of things. Once sorted they are a reliable and sturdy ride. I have a number of friends in the UK with Guzzis. Don't overlook the V-Twin Rally down in Fordingbridge in summer.

A picture of my Monza with a couple of other Italian twins:



Enjoy.

Rod in Oz.

[oldbike54]

What is it about a spanner wielding bird ?! ;-T Good job ST , or as we might say here in the colonies ,"you go girl" :)
Dusty

[Ambogal]

Congratulation and welcome on board Donna.

You ARE a brave one. Keep us updated on your bike.   That is a major project!

[kidneb]

Congratulation and welcome on board Donna.

You ARE a brave one. Keep us updated on your bike.   That is a major project!

 :+1    -- brave and fearless !

[Anders Pedersen]

How's that for a first post, I like you already ;-T

[Sasquatch Jim]

  Mo beta pictures.  You have really got a huge job ahead, not just the work but just finding all the parts.

[Snowtigeress]

 Mo beta pictures.  You have really got a huge job ahead, not just the work but just finding all the parts.

Well Ive got all the parts all from Gutsibits,they have been very helpful,just need my weekend off now

[Penderic]

Very nice sequence of pictures!  ;-T

Salute!



Welcome to the gaggle!

[Muzz]

Impressive! ;-T

I have had the box in the Breva apart twice for various reasons. You were very fortunate to just be able to undo the screws holding the bearing retainers. Luigi might not have had any grease around when mine was built but he had s**tloads of Loctite! ::)

[tazio]

We have GOT to come up with an award for bravery!! :bow

[jwh20]

We have GOT to come up with an award for bravery!! :bow

Agreed!  I consider myself reasonably proficient with a wrench but I don't think I'd have taken that "project" on.  Lots of "love" needed but WOW, I'm impressed.  In a few days this thing will probably be on the road.

[Joe G]

The perfect woman I'd say.




  JG

[balvenie]

How's that for a first post, I like you already ;-T

           ditto ;D

[Vasco DG]

While its apart check 5th gear carefully for wear all smallblocks have a liking for trashing 5th if insufficient oil is used in the box. At some point, I can't remember when, the factory designed a shroud that helped guide oil up to 5th. If your box doesn't have one its worth installing it. Its also worth junking the useless acorn breather on the top of the box. If you add a full litre of oil which will help prevent problems with fifth gear it will spew out of the breather and form a disgusting pool in the webs on top of the box. Installing a small pipe type breather with a length of hose on Nd running it up under the tank, blocking the end of it with a ball bearing and cutting a small slit in the pipe just below the ballot allow it to breathe does away with the crappy breather without the risk of getting the oil lake on the top of the box.

With the better pics I'm seeing its a 2 valve motor, that's good but it still might be worth flinging a set of valves at the heads as older smallblocks do have a tendency to shed valve heads especially if the top end has been allowed to get dirty. Not such a problem with 350's but it can still happen.

Pete

[Chuck in Indiana]

Wat Pete said about the breather, and being sure to fill the transmission. I did the breather mod, and made a steel sleeve for the transmission among other things. Do a search for Lario rehab on WG, and it may give you some ideas.
You get an Attagirl!  ;-T Welcome to WG..

[DungeonMaster]

You Rock Donna!!!
That did look like some nasty damage but small blocks are TONS of fun to ride so keep up the good work.

DM