Author Topic: EICMA 2014 merged threadfest / MGX-21 merged bitchfest / MGX-21 gets-the-green-light (Read 82095 times)

rboe · « **Reply #240 on:** August 22, 2015, 12:53:49 PM »

Are you all afraid they'll make it or more afraid they'll make it and it will like gang busters?

mojohand · « **Reply #241 on:** August 27, 2015, 12:19:48 AM »

All of this news makes me less confident the Griso survives.

rocker59 · « **Reply #242 on:** August 27, 2015, 07:55:48 AM »

Quote from: mojohand on August 27, 2015, 12:19:48 AM

All of this news makes me less confident the Griso survives.

Why??

leafman60 · « **Reply #243 on:** August 27, 2015, 09:15:27 AM »

Quote from: Kev m on June 10, 2015, 11:18:56 AM

I'm firmly of the opinion that the "Death Wobble" has to do with improperly set-up and/or modified bikes.

NEVER experienced it on any Harley I've owned or ridden, nor do I personally know anyone who has...

A properly set up H-D will handle pretty well, even in stock form.

However, as I have elaborated many times, for performance riding, a few modifications will transform the H-D's into machines that can hold their own against most European bikes.

The H-D comes set up for the sort of riding that vast numbers of H-D purchasers want.

Bolt on a set of Ohlins rear shocks and jack the bikes up 2-3 inches, drop in a set of fork cartridges and Stage One the fuel map and the bikes will probably out-ride you.

My recently-owned 6-speed Super Glide would run the curves with any of my BMW and Guzzi bikes. Ditto for my late model Road King.

An awesome thing about the Big Twin is that, in 6th gear on the Interstate, it turned barely over 3000 rpm's and produced 45 MPG!

Lannis · « **Reply #244 on:** August 27, 2015, 10:29:36 AM »

Quote from: leafman60 on August 27, 2015, 09:15:27 AM

An awesome thing about the Big Twin is that, in 6th gear on the Interstate, it turned barely over 3000 rpm's and produced 45 MPG!

People have been saying that since about 1936, and for the same reason ... lazily loping down the long highway in top gear. Been their signature for 80 years now ....

Lannis

Kev m · « **Reply #245 on:** August 27, 2015, 10:36:45 AM »

Quote from: leafman60 on August 27, 2015, 09:15:27 AM

A properly set up H-D will handle pretty well, even in stock form.

However, as I have elaborated many times, for performance riding, a few modifications will transform the H-D's into machines that can hold their own against most European bikes.

The H-D comes set up for the sort of riding that vast numbers of H-D purchasers want.

Bolt on a set of Ohlins rear shocks and jack the bikes up 2-3 inches, drop in a set of fork cartridges and Stage One the fuel map and the bikes will probably out-ride you.

My recently-owned 6-speed Super Glide would run the curves with any of my BMW and Guzzi bikes. Ditto for my late model Road King.

An awesome thing about the Big Twin is that, in 6th gear on the Interstate, it turned barely over 3000 rpm's and produced 45 MPG!

Man I'm agreeable lately...

LowRyter · « **Reply #246 on:** August 27, 2015, 02:40:58 PM »

So.... $2000 suspension upgrade to get a Harley to handle like any other stock motorcycle?

OK, but I think Harleys must handle great. I've only seen Harley riders spend $2000 on chrome and pipes. Those guys don't waste money on shocks and fork upgrades. Next you'll want to spend another grand on brakes? WTF?

Kev m · « **Reply #247 on:** August 27, 2015, 04:28:47 PM »

Quote from: LowRyter on August 27, 2015, 02:40:58 PM

So.... $2000 suspension upgrade to get a Harley to handle like any other stock motorcycle?

OK, but I think Harleys must handle great. I've only seen Harley riders spend $2000 on chrome and pipes. Those guys don't waste money on shocks and fork upgrades. Next you'll want to spend another grand on brakes? WTF?

No you don't have to spend $2k on a Harley suspension to "make it handle like any other stock motorcycle."

Well, maybe LowR is a tad extreme looking for Ohlins on a Harley... but then again, we have people spending upwards of $1k on a V7 suspension, which is a higher percentage of the purchase price.

Actually I've seen people swap out suspensions on ANY OTHER STOCK MOTORCYCLE too, so what does this have to do with the conversation.

bad Chad · « **Reply #248 on:** August 27, 2015, 05:07:33 PM »

Wow, when was the last time Guzzi had this much going on??? We may very we'll be needing the new Golden age of the proud eagle, Moto Guzzi!

rocker59 · « **Reply #249 on:** August 27, 2015, 05:08:42 PM »

Quote from: K250 on August 22, 2015, 11:59:13 AM

Probably does that would look good.

Someone in Galluzzi's studio must drive a Cadillac

Penderic · « **Reply #250 on:** August 27, 2015, 05:48:05 PM »

Coulda done a better job with that taillight led strip bezel ... its too thin and looks waverly to my eye.

Taillights are supposed to be sexy!

Just dont over do it!!

ugh!

LowRyter · « **Reply #251 on:** August 27, 2015, 06:04:20 PM »

Quote from: Kev m on August 27, 2015, 04:28:47 PM

No you don't have to spend $2k on a Harley suspension to "make it handle like any other stock motorcycle."

Well, maybe LowR is a tad extreme looking for Ohlins on a Harley... but then again, we have people spending upwards of $1k on a V7 suspension, which is a higher percentage of the purchase price.

Actually I've seen people swap out suspensions on ANY OTHER STOCK MOTORCYCLE too, so what does this have to do with the conversation.

I said that Harleys must handle fine since I've only see Harley riders spend their money of chrome and pipes.

Kev m · « **Reply #252 on:** August 27, 2015, 06:09:55 PM »

Quote from: LowRyter on August 27, 2015, 06:04:20 PM

I said that Harleys must handle fine since I've only see Harley riders spend their money of chrome and pipes.

I know what you said, and I fully understand the sarcasm.

Let's not have a useless pissing match over differences in taste ok?

mojohand · « **Reply #253 on:** September 01, 2015, 10:45:08 AM »

Quote from: rocker59 on August 27, 2015, 07:55:48 AM

Why??

It seems the focus moves away from sport/sport touring and more into big cruisers or small blocks, is all.

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #254 on:** September 01, 2015, 11:16:11 AM »

Quote from: rocker59 on August 27, 2015, 05:08:42 PM

Someone in Galluzzi's studio must drive a Cadillac

Admittedly, that's a prototype, but that is horrible. There is no reason that a competent model maker can't make something that is indistinguishable from "production."

rocker59 · « **Reply #255 on:** September 01, 2015, 12:34:13 PM »

Yeah. Beautiful carbon fibre fender skirt, then that bargain basement LED strip glued in place (poorly) to represent tail lights.

Kind of strange...

Tobit · « **Reply #256 on:** October 15, 2015, 06:44:35 AM »

Cool but if the mufflers are going to stay that low the bags should be redesigned so the bottoms run parallel with them. That niggling observation aside, I like it.

Tobit

HDGoose · « **Reply #257 on:** October 15, 2015, 06:46:23 AM »

Why bother with bags with such a puny fuel tank.

arveno · « **Reply #258 on:** October 15, 2015, 07:05:26 AM »

yessss now we can say guzzi the italian harley.....

rocker59 · « **Reply #259 on:** October 15, 2015, 07:49:18 AM »

MGX-21 prototype photo.

Merged into the bitchfest!

Murray · « **Reply #260 on:** October 15, 2015, 05:23:06 PM »

Quote from: Kev m on August 27, 2015, 04:28:47 PM

No you don't have to spend $2k on a Harley suspension to "make it handle like any other stock motorcycle."

Well, maybe LowR is a tad extreme looking for Ohlins on a Harley... but then again, we have people spending upwards of $1k on a V7 suspension, which is a higher percentage of the purchase price.

Someone did go Ohlins in Australia with the 1.9 litre motor on a road king from distant memory and took it to a track day as eastern creek/Sydney Motorsport park. Basically the upshot was it wasn't just the suspension that had issues the frame struggled as well. The thing wallowed down the main strait the suspect culprit was frame stiffness or lack there of. Its top speed on the straight was what the sport bikes slow down to for turn one, basically the upshot was you get them to handle better buy throwing lots of money at them there is however some serious limits with the inherit engineering.

Kev m · « **Reply #261 on:** October 15, 2015, 06:35:20 PM »

Quote from: Murray on October 15, 2015, 05:23:06 PM

Someone did go Ohlins in Australia with the 1.9 litre motor on a road king from distant memory and took it to a track day as eastern creek/Sydney Motorsport park. Basically the upshot was it wasn't just the suspension that had issues the frame struggled as well. The thing wallowed down the main strait the suspect culprit was frame stiffness or lack there of. Its top speed on the straight was what the sport bikes slow down to for turn one, basically the upshot was you get them to handle better buy throwing lots of money at them there is however some serious limits with the inherit engineering.

I'm not going to argue some heresay from some Aussie track day with a Road King except to say that I'm sure the speeds involved where far north of what should remotely be attempted on the street.

If not the bike in question was set up by morons as my EVO RK with stock suspension was better than that.

Caffeineo · « **Reply #262 on:** October 20, 2015, 02:37:04 PM »

Looks like MG is expanding the existing 1400 line up.....

http://www.cycleworld.com/2015/10/20/new-moto-guzzi-bagger-motorcycle-for-2016-spy-photos-and-review/

I kinda like it......Just wish they would give it a 200 mile range.

LowRyter · « **Reply #263 on:** October 20, 2015, 02:44:43 PM »

Holy Graf Zeppelin! Batman.

boatdetective · « **Reply #264 on:** October 20, 2015, 02:51:07 PM »

Looks like a carbon front wheel. Hmmm.

I'm not too fond of the goofy angle to the tailpipe.

elvisboy77 · « **Reply #265 on:** October 20, 2015, 02:52:05 PM »

Love it! That front wheel is too cool

cruzziguzzi · « **Reply #266 on:** October 20, 2015, 03:01:46 PM »

I like the concept of the screen if not the execution.

The front wheel's pretty.

But... WTF's with that exhaust? Needs a dose of Viagra.

Todd.

El Pescador · « **Reply #267 on:** October 20, 2015, 03:17:06 PM »

I like it!

Kiwi Dave · « **Reply #268 on:** October 20, 2015, 03:17:35 PM »

I like the plastic cowling under the motor. Would make cleaning the shit of the bottom real easy. Wonder when it will be available, if ever?

WitchCityGuzzi · « **Reply #269 on:** October 20, 2015, 03:19:42 PM »

Sure, they'll put a 21 inch front wheel on a California, but not the Stelvio.

Bastards.

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