Author Topic: New "liquid-cooled" Bonnevilles for 2016 (Read 57869 times)

rocker59 · « **Reply #90 on:** February 24, 2015, 09:25:24 AM »

Yeah, there were a bunch of posts deleted during Luap's cleanup of the head explosion.

Kev m · « **Reply #91 on:** February 24, 2015, 10:10:08 AM »

This is really cool and weird.

I can no longer see this whole thread on TapaTalk on my phone. Every time I click on it a blank page comes up.

I can see it on my laptop, BUT there are posts that I can still see in my "Lastest Posts of Kev M:" which are gone from the thread (nothing to do with the dude's head explosion like this one to Cam:)

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Quote from: Cam3512 on February 23, 2015, 02:23:06 PM
So how do I get one of those invisible center/side stands?

What are you talking about?

Both our bikes already have them!

I've never seen anything like that happen before. Not that it really matters...

Sheepdog · « **Reply #92 on:** February 24, 2015, 10:50:01 AM »

Love the look of the Meriden Triumphs, but I find them too small, under-powered, and way too buzzy. Conversely, I dislike the excessive "electronification" of this new model and the liquid-cooling. The plain 790 and 865cc Bonneville's are far more compelling. Many complain about the weight, but it only weighs 15 or 20 pounds more than a '75 Norton Commando (the electric start variant). It's smooth, nice handling (suspension mods help), has 4 valve OHC heads, it's cheap to insure, and has a huge aftermarket. It's not as handsome as a T120, but I think it looks much better than a T140. I think I'll just hold on to my '03 T100...

Kev m · « **Reply #93 on:** February 24, 2015, 03:22:42 PM »

Quote from: Sheepdog on February 24, 2015, 10:50:01 AM

That's just a great, simple looking bike with clean lines. That's what I want out of the motorcycle visually... ;-T

rocker59 · « **Reply #94 on:** February 24, 2015, 03:32:30 PM »

:+1

;-T

Sheepdog · « **Reply #95 on:** February 24, 2015, 04:01:35 PM »

Thanks! It even has 1" diameter handlebars, Kev. I got my handgrips at a HD dealership...

Penderic · « **Reply #96 on:** March 13, 2015, 06:47:01 PM »

http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/triumph/new-triumph-bonneville-spied.html

It is supposed to have a new water cooled motor and a new frame. :pop

rocker59 · « **Reply #97 on:** March 13, 2015, 08:57:26 PM »

Lots of speculation in that little blurb...

LowRyter · « **Reply #98 on:** March 13, 2015, 09:34:40 PM »

Penderic · « **Reply #99 on:** March 13, 2015, 10:32:04 PM »

The new motor could be just a set of bolt on heads with water channels aka the new HarleyDavidson water cooled motors.

Could we call it the Bonneville Tea Kettle? :D

More retro please!

rocker59 · « **Reply #100 on:** March 13, 2015, 10:37:15 PM »

It "could be" anything.

Looks like an air-cooled Bonneville with a really big oil cooler to me, though.

But hey... I've been wrong before...

So far, the magazine blurbs have been nothing but speculation. Nothing solid, and the photos aren't detailed enough to know much...

canuguzzi · « **Reply #101 on:** March 13, 2015, 11:08:31 PM »

Quote from: Penderic on December 18, 2014, 11:20:57 PM

Well, I was wrong about the water cooling. Oops. ;D Its liquid assisted cooled. The rad looks big for an oil cooler.

I wonder how much is it going to cost to change the oil on that motor? $$

I hope they don't have trouble with over-cooling the oil and getting the dreaded "mayonnaise" effect!

Don't oil change schedules change as oil capacity goes up? I'm guessing but while time intervals wouldn't change, would not the mileage interval go longer unless the engine circulates the oil faster?

Penderic · « **Reply #102 on:** April 29, 2015, 02:37:43 PM »

Fyi....

http://therideadvice.com/pictures-of-the-all-new-2016-triumph-bonneville-snapped/

Rest of article ... http://therideadvice.com/pictures-of-the-all-new-2016-triumph-bonneville-snapped/

Radiator. Ugly Radiator. Ug.

rocker59 · « **Reply #103 on:** April 29, 2015, 02:55:43 PM »

Quote from: Penderic on April 29, 2015, 02:37:43 PM

Fyi....

http://therideadvice.com/pictures-of-the-all-new-2016-triumph-bonneville-snapped/

Rest of article ... http://therideadvice.com/pictures-of-the-all-new-2016-triumph-bonneville-snapped/

Radiator. Ugly Radiator. Ug.

I've merged this with your previous "liquid-cooled" Bonnevilles thread...

Even in this new photo, there are no hoses in sight, and the bike's heads retain full cooling fins.

It will be nice when this thing makes its appearance on the show circuit podiums in the fall, then we will know what's what...

edit: take a look at the fuel tank. I see what appears to be a radiator cap on the left side. Hmmm. Split fuel tank? Coolant overflow and Fuel?

Double "Hmmm".

Penderic · « **Reply #104 on:** April 29, 2015, 03:06:10 PM »

Thanks for the merge, Rocker - I forgot about the earlier picture. Only one more picture on that last link but it shows the radiator a bit better....

:P The lack of ugly radiator hoses is a blessing!

ohiorider · « **Reply #105 on:** April 29, 2015, 03:44:45 PM »

Quote from: Sheepdog on February 24, 2015, 10:50:01 AM

Love the look of the Meriden Triumphs, but I find them too small, under-powered, and way too buzzy. Conversely, I dislike the excessive "electronification" of this new model and the liquid-cooling. The plain 790 and 865cc Bonneville's are far more compelling. Many complain about the weight, but it only weighs 15 or 20 pounds more than a '75 Norton Commando (the electric start variant). It's smooth, nice handling (suspension mods help), has 4 valve OHC heads, it's cheap to insure, and has a huge aftermarket. It's not as handsome as a T120, but I think it looks much better than a T140. I think I'll just hold on to my '03 T100...

Sheepdog ..... mine is gone but not forgotten. Whether it was riding into town for breakfast or loading her down and heading from Ohio to Wyoming, my 2003 790cc Bonnie was truly a do it all machine. Although she's gone on to be with another appreciative owner, I totally agree with your sentiments about the Hinckley Bonnies. I personally think they could have continued along with the current bike, and perhaps done a Bonnie 'super' with bigger bore, better suspension, and ............ that would have been fine for me. Maybe with cosmetics cleaned up a bit more than the pics posted here, the new machine will be another winner for Triumph.

Awww ..... gotta do it. Here's a pic of my 2003 Centennial Edition, sold in early 2012 to provide partial funding for a 2012 Griso 8vSE.

http://s115.photobucket.com/user/bcgilligan/media/Halloween%20in%20the%20Park%20Oct%2031%202007/12T100NexttoChippawaCreek.jpg.html?sort=6&o=11

Bob

menzies · « **Reply #106 on:** April 29, 2015, 04:12:37 PM »

Gotta love that Lucifer Orange, that is a great looking machine.

bpreynolds · « **Reply #107 on:** April 29, 2015, 04:17:59 PM »

Quote from: Penderic on April 29, 2015, 03:06:10 PM

Thanks for the merge, Rocker - I forgot about the earlier picture. Only one more picture on that last link but it shows the radiator a bit better....

:P The lack of ugly radiator hoses is a blessing!

Ouch. My ancestors used to wash their clothes on something like that. The one on my Thunderbird Sport is nowhere near as garish though it's wider. Maybe other pictures won't seem so...wrong to me. Lots of bikes were stinkers to me in pictures and/or prototypes, but in person I loved them. The DS1000 Multistrada I used to own was like that. And, Triumph has a fantastic way of finishing a bike by the time it reaches floors.

eric2186 · « **Reply #108 on:** April 29, 2015, 04:20:35 PM »

Just stick the 1050 triple in there and make a new Thunderbird Sport already :bike

rocker59 · « **Reply #109 on:** April 29, 2015, 05:06:41 PM »

This thing is getting so far away from what a Bonneville was, I'm just not sure about what to think.

If anything, they should be making the bike smaller/simpler/lighter.

Bumping it up to 1100cc and adding water cooling make it something other than a "Bonneville" in my mind.

Triumph should be going the direction of Ducati's Scrambler, not Honda's Shadow.

Hmmm...

ohiorider · « **Reply #110 on:** April 29, 2015, 05:29:24 PM »

Quote from: rocker59 on April 29, 2015, 05:06:41 PM

This thing is getting so far away from what a Bonneville was, I'm just not sure about what to think.

If anything, they should be making the bike smaller/simpler/lighter.

Bumping it up to 1100cc and adding water cooling make it something other than a "Bonneville" in my mind.

Triumph should be going the direction of Ducati's Scrambler, not Honda's Shadow.

Hmmm...

I'm in agreement. I've always thought they had a ready-made market among the 790/865 owners (at a minimum) for a smaller 400 pound 500/650 twin. Gotta admit .... Triumph has gotten their money's worth out of the current Bonnie configuration. Maybe the designers are simply getting bored with nothing but annual paint changes, but as far as I'm concerned, it's been a beautiful thing, knowing that the same, very nice, motorcycle with only a few changes (f.i., change in displacement) has stayed the course since 2001. Good job, Mr Bloor and son! Might want to consider keeping the old gal in the product mix IF you can make her meet ever-tightening Euro standards.

Bob

LowRyter · « **Reply #111 on:** April 29, 2015, 05:29:51 PM »

that's a big ol' boy.

I think BMW shows they can get a water cooled parallel twin light and quick with their 800 series.

I think both miss the mark for a Bonnie but the Beemer is closer. IMHO.

Kev m · « **Reply #112 on:** April 29, 2015, 06:43:42 PM »

Quote from: pokeyjoe on April 29, 2015, 02:45:19 PM

Makes me want to buy the current model....

Me too. Hope the old one is slowly phased out over the next year or two to give me time.

Meanwhile, I also hope the dual disks can be retrofit.

Kev m · « **Reply #113 on:** April 29, 2015, 06:46:15 PM »

Quote from: rocker59 on April 29, 2015, 02:55:43 PM

Even in this new photo, there are no hoses in sight, and the bike's heads retain full cooling fins.

Did you read the article and look at the close up pic. Supposedly it's only a PARTIALLY water-cooled motor (like the Harley Wet-Heads and the new BMW Boxers) so the cooling fins are still functional.

jetmechmarty · « **Reply #114 on:** April 29, 2015, 07:31:23 PM »

They already have a giant parallel twin. It looks good too. Why not just go with that one?

Kev m · « **Reply #115 on:** April 29, 2015, 07:37:17 PM »

Quote from: jetmechmarty on April 29, 2015, 07:31:23 PM

They already have a giant parallel twin. It looks good too. Why not just go with that one?

Good? I still say it looks like a giant Vulcan 500Ltd. :P

rocker59 · « **Reply #116 on:** April 29, 2015, 09:41:49 PM »

Quote from: Kev m on April 29, 2015, 06:46:15 PM

Did you read the article and look at the close up pic. Supposedly it's only a PARTIALLY water-cooled motor (like the Harley Wet-Heads and the new BMW Boxers) so the cooling fins are still functional.

Yeah. And after looking at the new pix up close, I guess that it's probably Rushmore-style limited cooling in the heads' exhaust port area...

jetmechmarty · « **Reply #117 on:** April 30, 2015, 11:14:15 AM »

Quote from: Kev m on April 29, 2015, 07:37:17 PM

Good? I still say it looks like a giant Vulcan 500Ltd. :P

Yep. Beauty is in the eyes of the beerholder. I certainly have my own taste. I tend to like the stuff of my youth.

Kev m · « **Reply #118 on:** April 30, 2015, 06:09:37 PM »

Quote from: jetmechmarty on April 30, 2015, 11:14:15 AM

Yep. Beauty is in the eyes of the beerholder. I certainly have my own taste. I tend to like the stuff of my youth.

But none of that looks anything like the ThunderTurd ;)

LowRyter · « **Reply #119 on:** April 30, 2015, 06:37:33 PM »

9th grade.... ;D

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Author Topic: New "liquid-cooled" Bonnevilles for 2016 (Read 57869 times)

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