Best Place to Retire

[Penderic]

And having all that delicious Italian food and drink available will make a very nice lifestyle challenge improvement!  ....
 ;-T

[Mayor_of_BBQ]

I notice that no one is singing the praises of the liberal east coast
certainly not me

Ridiculous comment

My prediction you will be unhappy no matter where you go with such an accusatory narrow 'us against them' mentality.

In truth it's about 50/50 split between conservatives & progressives anywhere you go..  Even hard right or extreme liberal regions/cities are 60/40 or 65/35 *at most* split

Oregon, Washington, Sedona, Mexico...
Sounds like almost everyone in this thread wants to move to an area that's more liberal than they would be leaving behind.. And even that is coincidence in this case.

You will have to interact with differently minded people no matter where you go.


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[smartin108]

Mayor of BBQ,

How is Asheville as a retirement locale?  It has been on my radar for a while now.

[oldbike54]

If one doesn't mind some humidity Southeastern Oklahoma has a lot to recommend it . Anywhere between Broken Bow and Talihena , nice scenery , relatively low real estate costs , good MC roads , and enough tourism to create a culture of decent restaurants and services . Politics , well , pretty much all over the map , dunno .

  Dusty

[Mayor_of_BBQ]

Mayor of BBQ,

How is Asheville as a retirement locale?  It has been on my radar for a while now.

Well it's booming

Our very liberal enclave has been on every best of & top 10 list in the publishing world

The whole place is overrun with retires

We have a tremendous housing shortage now, largely due to massive influx of retired, and also rich out of staters buying vacation homes...  And the current scourge are out of towners buying up any house that comes on the market and turning them into 365/24/7 AirBnB rentals.

Place is lousy with Floridians and New Yorkers..  And even worse the dreaded 'half-back' hybrid

That's when ppl retire from NY to FL, then realize FL sucks and move 'halfway back' to NY, landing in NC  


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[Chuck in Indiana]

Mayor of BBQ,

How is Asheville as a retirement locale?  It has been on my radar for a while now.

I'm not the mayor, but it's extremely popular.. he'll probably tell you to go away.  ;D We have friends near Mooresville, ya know.. where they do all that stock car ricein? It's growing so fast that they can't keep up with infrastructure.
I see that the mayor has posted while I was typing this.

[Dean Rose]

Lucky for us is that our place is on a private road and it is only about 15-20 minutes to Radford/Blacksford area, lots of shopping due to both of the universities (Radford and VPI).

It's an old lake hydro type built in the 30s. Lots of rock walls, not many pastures so no runoff. We've been wanting to build here for some time, just around to it now. 


Dean

[rodekyll]

If I have a choice (my wife disagrees) it is the high deserts of Oregon for me, specifically Lakeview. High enough in elev to be cool in the winter. 325+ days of sunshine, a short ride into the Sacramento Valley where it is usually warm in the winter.
Gail and I are only 7 short years from pulling the plug. Looking at a lot of different options.

Bill Lovelady               IS
Eskimo Spy

Bill -- What's up with Lakeview that they're having cluster earthquakes all the time (except oddly, standard holidays)?  Is it an mining/oil/fracking area?  The only other part of the lower 48 I see with near that much seismic activity is north-central OK.

[drw916]

Washington and Oregon are not liberal, except in the major metropolitan areas.  Our state is run by politicians who thing it is a good idea to create laws fining individuals for food thrown away in their garbage.  Really, you can look it up.

The vast majority of the state are much more conservative with a live and let live attitude. 

It's only kind of kidding when we talk about seceding and creating the state of Columbia which would encompass Eastern Washington, Eastern Oregon and the Idaho panhandle.

[Mayor_of_BBQ]

Maybe by land area the majority of those states are conservative.. But by population, it's still around 50/50
This is the case nationwide.  If it was a vast majority of conservatives.. Then how did politicians who enforce composting get in office?


As to how you can be anti recycling and/or composting.. That is a doozy. If there is collection.. Then what the problem segregating compost, recycling, and trash??

I don't know if collection is provided on your area but if it is you just seem hardheaded and lazy?

Governments pay a lot of money to dispose of trash.. And there is ALWAYS a problem with where to put it. If you can divert some of the stream in a way that it doesn't require long term bulk storage with the trash... And can even be used to produce a viable product (fertilizer) it seems silly to whine about it.

E.Wash & OR are supposed to have a strong & proud farming heritage and like it or not compost is a big part of that.  I'm sorry the yoke of the nasty government forced you to *gasp* buy an additional trash can and waste 45seconds a day segregating your waste. Oh the horror!



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[drw916]

No argument there.  Probably more like 65/35 population wise.  Area wise, only King county and maybe Pierce county vote liberal, but as you note, they are the population base so they control what happens.

[drlapo]

In truth it's about 50/50 split between conservatives & progressives anywhere you go..  Even hard right or extreme liberal regions/cities are 60/40 or 65/35 *at most* split
"progressives"??? is liberal a dirty word now?
i want to go  where I can spend my own money, not have it taken by a politician to be redistributed

[Lannis]

In truth it's about 50/50 split between conservatives & progressives anywhere you go..  Even hard right or extreme liberal regions/cities are 60/40 or 65/35 *at most* split
"progressives"??? is liberal a dirty word now?
i want to go  where I can spend my own money, not have it taken by a politician to be redistributed

I'm guessing that "liberal" has turned into a perjorative these days, as in being "liberal" with other people's money.   So they use "progressive" instead, sounds like the opposite of "backward" and plays better.   

I think your ratios are probably close to correct within any 100-mile circle ....

Lannis

[rboe]

In that case; I want to retire where folks spend buko bucks on education. I should not have to teach kids how to give out change at the register. Companies will flock to my area because they don't have to spend tons of money on training. That people realize, like valve adjustments and oil changes, you have to rebuild roads, bridges and buildings or watch them drop you into the river at some point.

You know, a time comes where those dirt bikes are too tall to get on even though if the roads are bad that is the only bike you should be on. My Griso (and back) like smooth roads.

And once I get on Social Security; I want a vibrant young smart educated work force supporting me.  ;D

There there is the whole - issue; jeeze, our generation and my folks generation paid dearly for good vaccines; why do we need to explain things all over again?

A good life is not cheap, same with good roads, doctors and midget porn.  ::)

[oldbike54]

Ron , you may have to retire in Scandinavia  ;D

  Dusty

[rboe]

Ha! I've considered it! Still have family there; but try finding good Mexican food. AZ has spoiled me food wise.

I'm not that good of a speller and Norwegian would be a bitch to pick up. Dad tried with limited success. Seems to me it would be very hard to yell "Get off my snowdrift!" in Norwegian. To be safe I'd probably have to learn Swedish too.  :P

Uf-dah is all I know.  :BEER:

[blackbuell]

How did a nice, informative thread like this get diverted into one of worthless political commentary?

Back to the original thread.....

We plan to relocate from Kentucky to New Mexico in a few years; probably to the SW part of the state, maybe near Silver City. Wonderful MC roads and great scenery, best Mexican food in the USA, inexpensive housing, not too hot in summer (effect of altitude), short winters. I lived in the big QQ for 15 years, but moved east in 1985; sure miss that part of the country.

Jon

[oldbike54]

Ron , doesn't most of Scandinavia speak English as a second language ? Yeah , living W/O good Mexican food would be intolerable , not very fond of Lutefisk  ;D

  Dusty

[rboe]

You are probably right; but if I lived there I'd feel that I'd have to pick up some of the language. Not too cool to declare a place your home and not learn the lingo.

[oldbike54]

Heck , there are at least 3 liberals right here in Oklahoma , we have meetings  ;D Seriously , Lannis is on to something with the IOM . Winters are a bit wet and windy , but it might be worth the sacrifice , and they speak English  ;D

  Dusty

[donn]

Somewhat seriously, if anyone knows a "liberal" part of the country that a person could retire to -- i.e., not super high property values -- I'd be interested.  (And pleasant weather and minimal biting insects.)  Unfortunately what you all seem to mean, or how it works out anyway, is urban areas with highly educated workforce - high tech, medicine etc. - and real estate is sky high there.

A couple of my neighbors talk about Costa Rica, but like Mexico ... many nice places, but not everyone is ready to trade cultures and languages fairly late in life.

[Lannis]

Lannis is on to something with the IOM . Winters are a bit wet and windy ,

  Dusty

I'm sure I'll be wet and windy myself by that time, so it'll be a good match .....

[Lannis]

How did a nice, informative thread like this get diverted into one of worthless political commentary?

It's not worthless.   The original question was asked because there's a tradeoff between high-tax places and low-tax places for people living on fixed incomes ....  Retired people on a pension can't afford to have their little bit of income redistributed with high sales and property taxes.

On the other hand, some folks don't feel comfortable unless they're in the shadow of a high-rise medical center with a bus going straight to it, which costs money .....

All part of the equation.

Lannis

[rodekyll]

 . . .except that there was no question posed in the OP, and taxes were not mentioned.   ::)

[Mayor_of_BBQ]

I do not participate in any political websites

It's precisely for this reason! I always take the bait and I can never let it go.

This makes it doubly ridiculous for me to comment on political issues in a nonpolitical forum

So apologies for the hijack and the drift


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[Mayor_of_BBQ]

So in the spirit of the thread,

Four seasons
Mild winter
Good infrastructure
Close to family (or at least convenient)
And either have my house paid off or it's affordable enough to move there, buy, and have no mortgage


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[not-fishing]

My prediction you will be unhappy no matter where you go with such an accusatory narrow 'us against them' mentality.

In truth it's about 50/50 split between conservatives & progressives anywhere you go..  Even hard right or extreme liberal regions/cities are 60/40 or 65/35 *at most* split

Sounds like almost everyone in this thread wants to move to an area that's more liberal than they would be leaving behind.. And even that is coincidence in this case.

Born and raised in California so now it's been 6 decades.

California was far different back in the 60's & 70's.  Fishing was great, hunting was good, no Mega Cities and LA wasn't that bad to get around with the freeways.  I wasn't that afraid of making a loop through SF on my Honda 400F Cafe clip-ons, rearsets, 1/2 fairing, tuned - a poor man's Le-Mans.

California back in the 70's was actually much more like Texas or Oklahoma are now.     :beat_horse

[oldbike54]

California back in the 70's was actually much more like Texas or Oklahoma are now.     :beat_horse

Uh ... NO . Sorry , have you been in either state recently ? Maybe like Austin , or parts of Tulsa , but Oklahoma is , well , REALLY nothing like California in the glory days .

  Dusty

[blackbuell]

Lannis,

Thanks for setting me straight, again.......and again.....and again........

Jon

[Lannis]

Lannis,

Thanks for setting me straight, again.......and again.....and again........

Jon

You're going to get work-hardened if that keeps up, and snap under the strain.   Better stay bent!   ;)

Lannis