Author Topic: Hold out for the V7 II or dive in now? (Read 58540 times)

AGRO! · « **Reply #90 on:** April 30, 2015, 05:42:34 PM »

lipstick on the pig LOL!

AGRO! · « **Reply #91 on:** April 30, 2015, 05:55:41 PM »

Hey Kev m I hear what your saying.
But one other thing I love about the guzzi is that you don't seem to see to many on the streets not like Triumph they have become like Japanese bikes from the 70s they just seem to be everywhere these days ::)
Pull up on the V7 most places and you get a lot of looks especially with louder pipes these bikes sound fantastic best sound from a V2 I've ever heard.
I've made my Stone look like the racer yes added some lipstick ;D

Kev m · « **Reply #92 on:** April 30, 2015, 06:03:06 PM »

I hear ya AGRO.

Jenn and I rode out to a Harley dealer today to get a few things for the Sportster. Her on the Duc and me on the Goose.

One of the salesman approached us as we were making our way out (new battery and grips in hand). He asked about the V7 and followed us out chatting about it and admiring it.

AGRO! · « **Reply #93 on:** May 01, 2015, 04:43:10 AM »

Kev you know what's funny is that my family reckon the guzzi is the best bike I've ever owned?
I've owned 23 bikes over the years.
One of my sons who rides also loves the v7 he always wants to ride the thing LoL he loves it!
He said today that he is over sports bikes and reckons that the little v7 is actually a real motorcycle.

Jeff

yourfavorite · « **Reply #94 on:** May 02, 2015, 07:04:42 PM »

Just got word from one of my local dealers that they'd have the 2016 V7II available by next weekend. Looks like they're here boys.

AGRO! · « **Reply #95 on:** May 02, 2015, 08:30:42 PM »

AGRO! · « **Reply #96 on:** May 02, 2015, 08:37:31 PM »

yourfavorite · « **Reply #97 on:** May 02, 2015, 09:02:55 PM »

Looks like you swapped out the seat and possibly the bars? Anything else?

jas67 · « **Reply #98 on:** May 02, 2015, 09:50:56 PM »

Quote from: yourfavorite on May 02, 2015, 09:02:55 PM

Looks like you swapped out the seat and possibly the bars? Anything else?

The exhaust doesn't look stock either.

AGRO! · « **Reply #99 on:** May 02, 2015, 11:11:59 PM »

MG Rear sets,v7 racer clipon bars, seat, custom made pipes,mirrors. :D

lorazepam · « **Reply #100 on:** May 02, 2015, 11:14:43 PM »

My dealer in Ohio had a V7II in the house today. Said it came in yesterday. They didn't have the battery in it, so no test ride. >:(

sib · « **Reply #101 on:** May 03, 2015, 07:11:42 AM »

Quote from: lorazepam on May 02, 2015, 11:14:43 PM

My dealer in Ohio had a V7II in the house today. Said it came in yesterday. They didn't have the battery in it, so no test ride. >:(

Congrats! That's the first US sighting, as far as I can tell. Mine's due at the dealer before mid-May. Curiously, still no mention of the V7II's on the MG-USA web site, not even in the news section.

bad Chad · « **Reply #102 on:** May 03, 2015, 09:49:45 AM »

The US MG website says the v7II is now available at your dealer, along with the Eldorado and Red 1400 Touring, and Blue 1400 custom.

The Red Tour looks Sweet!

sib · « **Reply #103 on:** May 03, 2015, 10:13:50 AM »

Quote from: bad Chad on May 03, 2015, 09:49:45 AM

The US MG website says the v7II is now available at your dealer, along with the Eldorado and Red 1400 Touring, and Blue 1400 custom.

The Red Tour looks Sweet!

Right you are, it must have appeared after I last checked yesterday. Although the lead paragraph states several colors, my dealer was told last Tuesday that only black and gray colors of the Stone are available now, and those are the only colors selectable on the image. Also, there is no mention (yet) of the V7II Special and Racer, only the Stone.

lorazepam · « **Reply #104 on:** May 03, 2015, 10:17:56 AM »

The one my dealer had was a black one. I saw a blue California that was also new. Very nice color, not sure if I have seen it on a bike before. My dealer is All seasons Sports in Wooster, OH. They have several Guzzis on the floor, and I think they sell a fair amount.

yourfavorite · « **Reply #105 on:** May 03, 2015, 01:48:22 PM »

Yeah, looking at the site it would seem as though the US is only getting gray and black? Was debating between yellow and black myself but it looks like they've chosen for me.

Penderic · « **Reply #106 on:** May 03, 2015, 01:52:56 PM »

Comes with nice big colorful stickers.

;D

Kev m · « **Reply #107 on:** May 03, 2015, 04:36:51 PM »

Quote from: bad Chad on May 03, 2015, 09:49:45 AM

The US MG website says the v7II is now available at your dealer, along with the Eldorado and Red 1400 Touring, and Blue 1400 custom.

The Red Tour looks Sweet!

INTERESTING... ELDO $15.7k not bad.

jas67 · « **Reply #108 on:** May 04, 2015, 08:02:18 PM »

Quote from: Penderic on May 03, 2015, 01:52:56 PM

Comes with nice big colorful stickers.

;D

"Do not ride in a sloped area?"

Seriously? That's usually were the best roads are!

Of course, the best is "Product moves when used."

God, I hope so! If not, I'm bringing it back for my money back.

jas67 · « **Reply #109 on:** May 04, 2015, 08:04:52 PM »

Quote from: Kev m on May 03, 2015, 04:36:51 PM

INTERESTING... ELDO $15.7k not bad.

$1500 "customer cash" on 2014, and $500 accessory voucher on the 2014 & 2015 California 1400.

I really like the rear end treatment on the Eldorado. The classic styled tail light and fender look just right. I wish they'd put a proper round headlight on it. Keep the LED illumination, but, make it round, in keeping with the classic styling of the rest of the bike.

Matteo · « **Reply #110 on:** May 05, 2015, 03:58:26 PM »

Portland just got theirs

steveford · « **Reply #111 on:** May 05, 2015, 09:40:21 PM »

2016 Guzzi's have arrived at Moto Guzzi Portland ;-T ;-T ;-T ;D ;D ;D ;-T ;-T ;-T and they are beautiful.

JeffOlson · « **Reply #112 on:** May 05, 2015, 11:04:39 PM »

Thanks for the pics, Steve.

I'd really like another Moto Guzzi. That blue Stelvio is calling my name, but a V7 II for around-town riding would make a lot more sense.

I hope Rick sells a boatload of the new bikes. The word is getting out there (slowly).

By the way, Latus HD/Triumph is already sold out of their allocation of 2015 Triumph Thruxtons and T100s. They are having to resort to buying and reselling used ones! I hope MG has such good fortune with the new V7 IIs.

Cam3512 · « **Reply #113 on:** May 06, 2015, 04:53:42 AM »

Tranny looks easier to fill on the V7 II, I'll give ya that...

Vasco DG · « **Reply #114 on:** May 06, 2015, 04:57:01 AM »

Just don't use it as a level plug, Eh? ;D

Pete

akcapwild · « **Reply #115 on:** May 06, 2015, 07:27:30 AM »

Quote from: jackson on April 17, 2015, 06:26:19 PM

Unless you are dead set on having ABS, the current V7 will probably fill all of your expectations. And, as MotoGeezer said, you can also pick up a nice used Breva 750 or V7 Classic and get a feel for the MG 750cc engine & gearbox. I've owned a later model Breva 750 (sold) and presently have a 2010 V7. Both are really good bikes but you sit differently on the Breva vs the V7 Classic. The present line of new V7's have essentially the same riding position that you'll find on with a used V7 Classic (with the exception of The Racer model). The new ones have only one throttle body and the older models will have two. Food for thought.

This thread is all over the place, but it hit on a point I'd love some further explanation on... how are the ergo's different on a Breva 750 vs. a V7 (not the V7²) -- is the B7 more upright? I've got my eye on a few Breva's and one V7... and it's a 2010 Cafe Classic.

Thanks for the feedback.

ponti_33609 · « **Reply #116 on:** May 06, 2015, 07:34:51 AM »

Quote from: akcapwild on May 06, 2015, 07:27:30 AM

This thread is all over the place, but it hit on a point I'd love some further explanation on... how are the ergo's different on a Breva 750 vs. a V7 (not the V7²) -- is the B7 more upright? I've got my eye on a few Breva's and one V7... and it's a 2010 Cafe Classic.

Thanks for the feedback.

FWIW - When I recently purchased my 2014 V7 I was speaking with Dave R from MI. He said he is 6'2" ( I think he said) and he told me that the "baby breva" was more comfortable for taller riders in his opinion than the V7 series bikes. I didn't get into details as I am not that tall. A breva 750 is Dave's primary ride he told me.

Also - I am 5'10" and ~155. I find the V7 nice but could think some larger riders might feel like they want more room. This being said there are/were several tall riders that have/had V7's. Dan R bought a classic when they first came out. I think Dan was 6'3" or slightly more but I know you are asking about the breva.

jackson · « **Reply #117 on:** May 06, 2015, 08:04:20 AM »

Quote from: ponti33602 on May 06, 2015, 07:34:51 AM

FWIW - When I recently purchased my 2014 V7 I was speaking with Dave R from MI. He said he is 6'2" ( I think he said) and he told me that the "baby breva" was more comfortable for taller riders in his opinion than the V7 series bikes. I didn't get into details as I am not that tall. A breva 750 is Dave's primary ride he told me.
Also - I am 5'10" and ~155. I find the V7 nice but could think some larger riders might feel like they want more room. This being said there are/were several tall riders that have/had V7's. Dan R bought a classic when they first came out. I think Dan was 6'3" or slightly more but I know you are asking about the breva.

I used to own a Breva 750 & presently own a V7 Classic. I sat on a V7 Special over a year ago and it appeared to have the same ergonomics as my V7 Classic.
The Breva 750 puts you what I describe as "sitting in the bike rather than on the bike". The seat is such that you sit down in a groove. I liked the ergonomics of the Breva very much but have no problem with the V7 Classic. I'm 6'1"/205 pounds with a 32" inseam. The main difference other than the "sitting IN" the bike position is that I have a little more leg room (not a bunch; but enough to be noticeable) on the V7 Classic.

organfixsing · « **Reply #118 on:** May 10, 2015, 02:32:05 AM »

Overall gearing including Primary and Rear axle drive.
V7 V7 II
1st 14.94:1 1st 12.969
2nd 10.384 2nd 9.36
3rd 8.077 3rd 7.022
4th 6.675 4th 5.705
5th 5.689 5th 5.689
6th 4.678
As you can see, the V7 II is actually geared higher than the V7, i.e. the lower the number, the lower the engine revs for a particular speed.
I hope this clears up confusion that reign supreme because the primary drive ratio and the rear axle ratio has not been taken into account.
The 6 speed has been used to reduce the gaps between gear ratios.
Cheers everyone
Brian :)

sib · « **Reply #119 on:** May 10, 2015, 07:25:20 AM »

Quote from: organfixsing on May 10, 2015, 02:32:05 AM

Overall gearing including Primary and Rear axle drive.
V7 V7 II
1st 14.94:1 1st 12.969
2nd 10.384 2nd 9.36
3rd 8.077 3rd 7.022
4th 6.675 4th 5.705
5th 5.689 5th 5.689
6th 4.678
As you can see, the V7 II is actually geared higher than the V7, i.e. the lower the number, the lower the engine revs for a particular speed.
I hope this clears up confusion that reign supreme because the primary drive ratio and the rear axle ratio has not been taken into account.
The 6 speed has been used to reduce the gaps between gear ratios.
Cheers everyone
Brian :)

I respectfully disagree with these numbers. If you take into account the different input shaft to primary shaft gear ratio, the numbers are as follows:

V7 V7 II
1st 12.797 1st 13.930
2nd 8.895 2nd 9.370
3rd 6.918 3rd 7.028
4th 5.715 4th 5.710
5th 4.764 5th 5.060
6th 4.685

I've been riding both my '13 V7 and my '16 V7II since Friday and I can confirm that the ratios are not as different as organfixsing indicates.

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Author Topic: Hold out for the V7 II or dive in now? (Read 58540 times)

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