Eldorado v Ambassador v Police v 850T

[Maaka]

New at this right..Bought a 73 Eldorado. its parked up in the States at a mates place, so only seen pics..However, I want to buy some parts, but get alittle confused when people start talking about fitting Eldorado / Ambassador, and then there is the Police model and some sort of 850T model....what fits what, are they all interchangable parts ( obviously not the motor re 700 v 850 ) but the rest?????????

[rodekyll]

Your Eldo is in the class of "drum brake loop frames".  The 850 and all "T" or V1000 models and newer are different frames called "tonti".  We don't do much casual swapping of parts between the two.

Police models are accessorized differently than civilian models and their frames have extra tabs and lugs welded on for police gear, like sirens.  Police loops have solo saddles, some with radio boxes, different handlebar, 'pursuit lights', and very fancy speedometers among other differences.  Most of the 'police bike' stuff you see on ebay is laughably bogus or the same thing that would have been on a civilian model.

Within the loops there are many variances in things like toolboxes, color and trim that don't really matter, but there are major things like 4spd/5spd transmissions, drum or disk brake front ends, timing chains v timing gears, and fuel tank sizes that could matter.

I'll let the loop guys get into details.  The '73 is considered a good rig.

[Maaka]

thanks Mate for that gem of knowledge..will await the Big Guns..

[canuck750]

Everything you can ever need to know is right here. I stumbled across this web site years ago and its been downhill into the abyss of Guzzi addiction ever since, you have been warned....
 :BEER:

http://www.thisoldtractor.com/moto_guzzi_loopframe.html


Cheers


Jim

[Lannis]

New at this right..Bought a 73 Eldorado. its parked up in the States at a mates place, so only seen pics..However, I want to buy some parts, but get alittle confused when people start talking about fitting Eldorado / Ambassador, and then there is the Police model and some sort of 850T model....what fits what, are they all interchangable parts ( obviously not the motor re 700 v 850 ) but the rest?????????

And you will definitely want to get you an account on THIS site:

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Loopframe_Guzzi/info

Lannis

[Maaka]

yes Jim found that site two days ago...its a beauty..
will try the other later Lannis..

am loading up one of my Phantoms with backpack and bags, and leaving the Mekong River in 2 hrs time, and heading for Bangers to fly out back to NZ to collect my RK3 when the ship arrives in June..all hyped up at the prospect of a road trip thru some of the most dangerous traffic in the world..might be MIA for a day or two..be good

[guzziownr]

Your Eldo is in the class of "drum brake loop frames".  The 850 and all "T" or V1000 models and newer are different frames called "tonti".  We don't do much casual swapping of parts between the two.

Speak for yourself R.K.  ;D

1973 Eldorado frame, 1975 Eldorado disk brake front end with 1979 SP HD springs and stock dampers.  1979 SP engine, 1975 850 T transmission, twin leading shoe rear brake and rear drive.

[rodekyll]

 . ..  and how 'casual' was it for you?   ;D

I've had loop fenders and seat on a Tonti and a T transmission in a loop.  It can be done.  but it's just mean if we tell a noobie it's all interchangeable.   ~;

[Cam3512]

And you will definitely want to get you an account on THIS site:

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Loopframe_Guzzi/info

Lannis

I also recommended the Loopframe specific Yahoo group to quickly answer all questions by the most knowledgable people on the planet.  You can lead a horse to water...

[Maaka]

right ho, will check yahoo thingy when I am not in transit..and internet cafes