Mac vs dell sgc

[Kentktk]

That said I've heard from software friends that Windows 10 is amazingly good.

That`s of course after they stole your money and time with ridiculously bad Windows 8

[canuguzzi]

Windows 8 and 8.1 is good software. It is stable and reliable. The problem with it was that everyone wanted something new and when they got it, realized they like the old stuff.

If you have Windows 7 you can get Windows 10 for nothing. Windows 10 will be the only system that works on anything you have, desktop, laptop, tablet or phone. Nothing else will do that.

[yourfavorite]

Lots of posts already... Here goes my take: There are way more PCs than Macs so while there are viruses for Macs, most virus creators are targeting PCs because you increase the number of vulnerable machines. There's also a lot less malware and garbage software that you can accidentally install on your Mac. It doesn't mean its not out there, but you're definitely less of a target on a Mac.

All of that said, you will have to pay more for a Mac. Personally I think its worth it as I find the experience far superior to a PC running windows. This is of course a matter of opinion. You can save some money by buying a Refurb Mac. If you have an Apple Store nearby I recommend buying Apple Care for the comp as well. Depending on your needs for portability, I'd recommend looking at an iMac or 13" MacBook Air.

[Doppelgaenger]

That`s of course after they stole your money and time with ridiculously bad Windows 8

Agreed, but that's assuming you allowed yourself to use that crap. I never upgraded because I knew it was going to be crap and useless to me

[Kentktk]

I dumped Microsoft 5 years ago and it has been joy and elation to never have to use their crap anymore!

[fossil]

A PC I can use and operate (!) in any way I like. A Mac not. A PC allows me to work with music files freely in any way I want to. A Mac not. With PCs I work without problems since Windows NT 4.0, including 3D CAD. The really important CAD - programs don´t even exist in Mac - versions. Each new Windows version I can operate in the same way without having to learn new things at once, meaning I can start and operate each machine at once. A Mac? This I don´t know. In the PC world I can choose between great laptops from DELL (Latitude E6xxx - series), Lenovo (ThinkPad T...) and HP (EliteBook). All 3 also offer superior series to those mentioned. Each of these devices is at least equal in quality to a Macbook pro. If you spend the money you get fat NVidia Quadros or the equivalent from ATI.

A PC is compatible to more than 90 percent to all computers in the world. A Mac not.

Why consider a Mac?

"Listen to your son." I say: listen to the Norge Pilot.
"I dumped Microsoft 5 years ago and it has been joy and elation to never have to use their crap anymore!"
And I like to use the OS from the man who gives the most charitable donations in the world instead from people whose employees in the fabrication sites sometimes see no other way than suicide because of the conditions at work. And beside that: Why is an operating system crap that runs absolutely well in companies, universities and so on? And for years on my different machines?

[Kentktk]

You don`t live 3 miles from MS headquarters or 2 miles from the most charitable man`s 66,000 square foot Reichstag.  You don`t get to see his Dad trying to get Tax breaks for his beloved MS and then attempt to impose an income tax for everyone living in this state. Not to mention ruining your town with immigrants and not wanting to pay for things like a bridge to cross a freeway for MS workers,  but instead works "deals" so the public get`s to pay for it. It`s not as it seems to people on the outside and not knowing the real truth. Keep enjoying CTRL+ALT+DEL.

[poorBob]

If I'm paying my own money for a computer, it will be a mac.

I have to use the company's windows rubbish for employment purposes but if it's MY money, it's a mac.

No computer is perfect but MS has been trying to be more like mac since the late 90s. I personally know people in Redmond assigned to the project.

[fossil]

"Keep enjoying CTRL+ALT+DEL." Well perhaps sometime I will test this combination just for the fun of it. Up to now I don´t needed it.

[fotoguzzi]

  Some of their design choices are great, and some of them (like predictive text on the iPhone)

You can turn that off anytime you want in "settings"

[charlie b]

And the battle goes on ............  :D

[gearman]

Well, I enjoyed all the replies.  my son installed the new Mac MINI last night.It takes 45seconds to boot up but it shuts down in only a few seconds.The script is different,but this may just be setup.It looked like it is easier to see pictures before importing into a craigslist ad.But I have no right to evaluate the merits of the Mac or PC.   I can try the mac for two weeks before I would have to return it.  The mac is very fast to operate,but that might just be because my Dell is so messed up.

[gearman]

Funny, now that I have the MAC I get the banner ads at the top of the pages.I did not get the graphics with the pc.  Whats up with that.?

[canuguzzi]

Well, I enjoyed all the replies.  my son installed the new Mac MINI last night.It takes 45seconds to boot up but it shuts down in only a few seconds.The script is different,but this may just be setup.It looked like it is easier to see pictures before importing into a craigslist ad.But I have no right to evaluate the merits of the Mac or PC.   I can try the mac for two weeks before I would have to return it.  The mac is very fast to operate,but that might just be because my Dell is so messed up.

The observations are valid but would have been much different when comparing a new MAC to a new PC costing about the same.

Glad you like it though. In the end, what works for you is what matters and everything else is advertising.

[sknapp351]

Funny, now that I have the MAC I get the banner ads at the top of the pages.I did not get the graphics with the pc.  Whats up with that.?

Your PC browser probably had AdBlock installed on your browser. You can install that extension easily enough.

Sam


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[fotoguzzi]

Funny, now that I have the MAC I get the banner ads at the top of the pages.I did not get the graphics with the pc.  Whats up with that.?

what brouser are you using? Safari is Mac friendly and so is Firefox.. they both have settings to block pop ups, look in the brouser preferences pane.

[kevdog3019]

"They won't let you inside the machine to tinker with it" says a Mac hater.  "They just want your money; it's a conspiracy".  Jobs didn't want folks messing with something the company put a lot of effort into (from his book).  If you don't like it, don't buy one, but we all have seen those MG's that folks have ham-fisted because they thought they knew better (yeah... even dealers without training).  I don't get how people can't understand the merits of a company not wanting you to get your paws on the guts.  I make products and CERTAINLY don't want people to mess with them or they come back to me un-repairable and I have to say sorry.  I'd rather not have to say that and spend MY time fixing them for next to nothing.  So... if it was greed I'd say mess with them as it will save me effort.  I'd rather they have a good product that's usable and a good experience to back it up.  That's how I look at Apple doing business how they do.  I can respect that.  Go to a Mac store and ask an employee a question.  I think the folks they hire are incredibly knowledgable and way more educated on the product than employees at ANY other store I've been to.  VERY professional and they walk you through the entire process and set you up with your phone, etc. and when you leave you have all your old phones data saved in your new phone and you leave with the ability to use the product out the door.  I'll pay extra for that service that's built into the price (I assume).  It's like a dealer that spends time answering any questions you have and makes sure everything is prepped right before you leave with the bike.  Apple has customer service down!      

[canuguzzi]

Yup, Apple will also tell you how to hold your phone and now how to wear a watch.

I can only thank the higher powers that Steve Jobs and Apple never designed a motorcycle.

The Apple designed motorcycle:

http://www.strangedangers.com/content/item/114352.html


Wait until you see the helmet.

[lorazepam]

This is almost as good as an oil thread.  :BEER:

[kevdog3019]

Yup, Apple will also tell you how to hold your phone and now how to wear a watch.

I can only thank the higher powers that Steve Jobs and Apple never designed a motorcycle.

The Apple designed motorcycle:

http://www.strangedangers.com/content/item/114352.html


Wait until you see the helmet.

Hmmm... I think someone drank some Kool-Aide.  I have never heard of how I should use any of their products.  Been about 20 years.  Someone is making stuff up again.  This is how wacko stuff gets spread.  You have been brainwashed my friend.   :P

Funny thing is I don't have one thing against PC's except to say I prefer Macs from a users standpoint.  There's like this vendetta against Macs that I can't understand.  Can anyone explain this??  I don't get how someone can emotionally hold something against another brand unless they have a personal experience that left a lasting impression.  Look... none of these creators were perfect.  You have some asses and cuckoos on both sides, but I don't see how that affects me the user.  Both creators have done good things also.  Why the hatred??  I mean this in all seriousness.

[Two Checks]

First, the Mac IS a PC, is it not?

And if you didn't like MSOffice on the Mac, don't blame Apple, blame Bill Gates.

BTW, did ya know MS wrote Office for the Mac BEFORE windoze?
Happy Mac user since 1984.

[canuguzzi]

Hmmm... I think someone drank some Kool-Aide.  I have never heard of how I should use any of their products.  Been about 20 years.  Someone is making stuff up again.  This is how wacko stuff gets spread.  You have been brainwashed my friend.   :P

Its all in fun, geesh, but, Apple does tell you how to wear the watch:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204665

and Jobs did say people where holding the phone the wrong way.

I can only imagine their instructions to ride a motorcycle.

[kevdog3019]

Its all in fun, geesh, but, Apple does tell you how to wear the watch:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204665

and Jobs did say people where holding the phone the wrong way.

I can only imagine their instructions to ride a motorcycle.

This link is GREAT about the watch. It talked about potential skin allergies to the different metals offered, and how the back of the watch needs to be tight against the wrist for the meter to get a good read on steps taken. i don't see those two points being awkward or demeaning in any way or even self-righteous on a corporate level. No different than an oil spec listed and telling you where the fill plug is in a manual. What am I missing??

[Kentktk]

First, the Mac IS a PC, is it not?

It is but it`s not, PC denotes using Microsh-t operating system.

[redrider90]

Not so fast!  The walled garden of Apple is a happy place for those who drink the apple koolaid, and play by their rules. 

A new laptop, whether PC or Apple, will serve you well. 

Agreed but anybody who is binary challenged usually find Macs much more user friendly. I took my PC away from my brother, who is a brilliant PhD forensic psychologist but cannot change a light bulb to save his life and has been able to now comfortably use a computer. My wife is also binary challenged but does know how to change a light bulb a had a similar response with I dumped my PCs. She found them more intuitive and easier to use than Windows. I think that his how Mac originally built the business . There operating systems are easier to use and harder to freeze the computer. Plus that wonderful feature called "force quite" will always get you out of a jam. Now they just have lots and lots of toys. I bought a few shares of Mac and wish I had bought a whole lotta few shares at the same time. I would be buying Guzzis' all around for the group if I had bought more.   ;D ;D ;D

[redrider90]

Funny, now that I have the MAC I get the banner ads at the top of the pages.I did not get the graphics with the pc.  Whats up with that.?

Wanna get rid of all ads on you Mac? Go to this free app and install and no more ads ever!
 https://www.ghostery.com/en/download

[redrider90]

"They won't let you inside the machine to tinker with it" says a Mac hater.  "They just want your money; it's a conspiracy".   Apple has customer service down!      

Older Macs are very easy to work on. Lots of videos and PDF files available on the net and cheap parts on the ebay.  Now this lightweight Mac Air I am typing on I have not opened.
But my older polycarbonate Mac Book was easy to up grade and put in a new OS X  was easier than putting in a new dash on the Mille. Even after I dropped it and cracked the screen it was not so hard to replace.

[rboe]

Wanna get rid of all ads on you Mac? Go to this free app and install and no more ads ever!
 https://www.ghostery.com/en/download

You beat me to it! I've been using this for a while now. Very scary when you see some sites have thirty bots and widgets running - on YOUR computer!

Price of a Mac vs. a PC is a bit of a red herring. Apple does not really target the cheap budget computer market. But if you compare the same hardware vs. same hardware you'll find they are competitive. If your budget does not allow a lower priced Mac then a Windows or Chrombook are your only choices. You can build your own but I find that can get expensive; for starters, it's hard to buy all cheap stuff and if you do, you don't get the volume discount breaks  the big guys get. :p

I found the jump from Windows 7 to 8 a non-starter. The whole pane thing was counter intuitive and I could not get to the classic desktop fast enough. Frankly I have better things to do with my time than try to boot strap my self to a new OS (since it was Windows, same name, one would think the learning curve would not be so steep). From XP to 7 it was annoying as some items, mainly the control panel, were buried deeper than in XP. Change for changes sake? Annoying but not a show stopper like 8.

Ever since I switched from Windows at home around 2003 each OS upgrade was pretty smooth. Baby steps, easy to pick up on new features while the whole interface was not all that different. So I could be productive while learning. Nice.

Plus; I used to be a UNIX geek and Mac OS is based on Berkely UNIX (Free BSD), with a fancy GUI bolted on top. Once Apple did that, I dropped Linux at home. Still have a Linux partition and still have a couple Windows machines - there are times something that is too useful to avoid and its' Windows only - like have JIS screw drivers on hand. :) Before that it was OS/2. :)

My ever so humble opinion on Windows 10 being the be all do all for all appliances (PC's, tablets and phones) is a bad idea in practice. There are things I do on the desktop/laptop that have nothing to do with a phone and I don't do Office on the phone. Makes better sense to have the OS specialize in desktop or phone sphere instead of shoehorning it in. Should run better and not be such a kludge.

[gearman]

Wanna get rid of all ads on you Mac? Go to this free app and install and no more ads ever!
 https://www.ghostery.com/en/download

How do I know that this is safe?

[gearman]

what brouser are you using? Safari is Mac friendly and so is Firefox.. they both have settings to block pop ups, look in the brouser preferences pane.

I am using Firefox.