MGX-21 Flying Fortress bat bike bagger merged threadfest

[blackcat]

More interesting than Centauro, Sport 1100, Daytona RS, and V11 Sport from the late 1990s ??

And the MGS/01 even though it didn't go into regular production.

Honestly, after talking to these guys from Moto Guzzi I am not too optimistic in where they are going with the design of these bikes.

[tiger_one]

Miguel Galluzzi talking about the design of the bike - meant to appeal to the younger riders.  link;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzD47GSCRuM

Interesting and somewhat scary, facing somewhat unknown change being influenced by one man!  I'm sure there are others that have some input, but to go from a drawing to the prototype must be a huge expense and test of manufacturing.

I can only remember one class with design, we had to design an engine and draw the 3 views.  About 90% of the class forgot a drain plug, or made a part that could not be built.

[Chuck in Indiana]

And the MGS/01 even though it didn't go into regular production.

Honestly, after talking to these guys from Moto Guzzi I am not too optimistic in where they are going with the design of these bikes.

Me, either. I had a reputable source tell me that a new LeMans was in the works over a year ago. Nada. Cruisers? Meh..

[John Ulrich]

For as slow as Guzzi moves that styling trend will be old news two years when the shipping crates land on shore

[leafman60]

For as slow as Guzzi moves that styling trend will be old news two years when the shipping crates land on shore

lol

[rocker59]

I think I'd say YES.

I guess cause I've finally embraced the fact that I'm not a "sportbike" 

They're putting a lot of eggs in the California 1400 basket.  I do hope they sell.

You don't have to like riding sportsbikes to admit that the design and styling of the spine frame Sport 1100/Daytona RS/MGS-01 were fantastic classic Italian works of art.

I'm really excited about the blurb from Collanino about a new "mid-size" bike being shown this fall in Milan.  Hopefully it will be something I can lust after, like I have lusted after the LeMans, Sport 1100, Daytona, and V11 lines.

[Chuck in Indiana]

They're putting a lot of eggs in the California 1400 basket.  I do hope they sell.

You don't have to like riding sportsbikes to admit that the design and styling of the spine frame Sport 1100/Daytona RS/MGS-01 were fantastic classic Italian works of art.

I'm really excited about the blurb from Collanino about a new "mid-size" bike being shown this fall in Milan.  Hopefully it will be something I can lust after, like I have lusted after the LeMans, Sport 1100, Daytona, and V11 lines.

Maybe it'll compete head to head with the new mid sized Harley.. ~;  ;D

[Kev m]

Rocker - to be clear - I'm not saying they SHOULDN'T pursue other things too... like a rebirthed LeMans, or to continue with bikes like the Griso and Stelvio. I'm just saying most of those don't excite me as much as the Cali and V7 lines.

Chuck? - MID-SIZED HARLEY? I'm missing the joke - isn't that a Sportster or maybe a Vrod? The new baby Harley is that, the new "tiny" Harley (relatively speaking).

[rocker59]

Chuck? - MID-SIZED HARLEY? I'm missing the joke 

A little sarcasm, I think.   :D

[leafman60]

Did a BMW rider steal a GF from you ? Just asking .

  Dusty

I currently own 4 BMW's and have put many miles on about 12 of them over the years. Of all the bikes I've owned in the last 15 years, the BMW's have been the most troublesome and unreliable.

Generally, they are fine when they are running but the problems are legion.

The older airheads are more reliable than the later bikes.

[Penderic]

Reliability aside, BMW has also put some thought into a similar bagger format.

[T in NC]

When to Matthews Fun Machines last night. it was a pretty cool event liked them all.

[rocker59]

Someone needs to ask if Eldorado seats are interchangeable with the other California 1400s

[leafman60]

Looks like Matthews carries a broad line of machines.  Must be a big dealership.

[tiger_one]

Someone needs to ask if Eldorado seats are interchangeable with the other California 1400s

 :+1  Does look very comfortable.

[rocker59]

May 21, 2015 - Presentation in the historical factory in Mandello del Lario for two big new Guzzis. Important innovations in the pipeline for the brand and for the group

Debuted in grand style, Audace and Eldorado, the two new manifestations of the the Big Block Guzzi. It is not every day that Moto Guzzi opens the doors of the factory at Mandello del Lario, nor every day that  President Colaninno brings all his staff to introduce a new model; it was not difficult to see that there was something interesting to talk about.

Unfortunately, the weather has not allowed the dynamic testing to proceed in such conditions to offer significant indications - maybe next week - but it was worth the effort to be there. Also worth the effort for the opportunity to interview Miguel Galluzzi, and because the President Colaninno was rather explicit about exciting news for the Piaggio group's unveiling of a another new model. With particular reference, it is evident that it will be from Moto Guzzi.

It begins, as is the tradition, with a point on the market trend, which although still in great difficulty is showing signs of recovery in the first quarter of 2015, with an increase in consolidated revenues over 9% and 121,000 vehicles sold. A growth that is reflected in profitability, with a net profit of 1.2 million euro against the 1.1 last year. It is easy to see how the Italian market is not the most favorable at the moment. No matter, however, because Vespa and Mp3 continue to be successful global, Aprilia is growing ( 3.4 %) and Moto Guzzi still more ( 6.1 % ).  For both, the news has just submitted will contribute to a noticeable increase in the rest of the year.

But when we talk of Guzzi, the atmosphere is warm, because there is important news in store for the establishment of Mandello.

"Here we want to create something extraordinary, transforming this site into a place of dreams" has declared President Colaninno. "I saw the sketches of the project, I can assure you that this place will be the idea that we have of Moto Guzzi, connecting its over ninety years of history with its great future development".

An important statement, with major implications for an establishment already considered to be "a place of the soul" by many fans, that visit in numbers of 35,000 people each year. A project that provides the measure of how much importance the trademark Moto Guzzi is to the Piaggio group, despite criticism from those who have preferred a commitment with Aprilia in the racing championship…

"brand management within a group and an asset is extremely complicated, in which any decision has consequences and impacts on the entire chain, from the management up to the dealers. Do not think that we haven't thought of the impacts, but for a whole series of reasons, we preferred to give continuity to the racing commitment at Aprilia".

The other criticism has been certain discontinuities in the Guzzi range, with a vacuum to fill between the V7 and the Big Block 1400 , from the moment that the Stelvio and Norge seemed out of step with the rest of the line.

"Have patience. We have just presented these two models, but by the end of the year you will see another. We want to prove that the basis of growth of the Piaggio group are based on the development of design and technological solutions that are able to make us compete against the big japanese and Germans that dominate the market. We are going to do that with the new Aprilia and his commitment in the race, with Moto Guzzi that today presents this new range of models, and Vespa and its tip of the diamond, the 946 and, more generally, with new models of various brands - including Piaggio - that we are launching in the course of the year".

http://www.moto.it/news/roberto-colaninno-trasformeremo-lo-stabilimento-di-mandello-in-un-luogo-da-sogno.html

[rocker59]

Come on November!!!

[tiger_one]

Gonna be interesting, maybe a better than V7 midsize, or a lessor size Stelvio midsize.

I'm not a cruiser guy (but I do ride a long ways to twisties) but I do like lots of different bikes, just can't own a garage full.  If I was test riding cruisers, the 1400 something would be at the top of my list. 

The important thing here, they do seem to be hearing us, just not able to react quickly.  I have watched KTM address the main issues on the 1190 since 2013.  They made changes each year, and these are almost exactly what most are complaining about (Niggles).  That builds confidence in the customer.

I looked at the new 1290SA at the dealer yesterday, it has lots of changes from my 2014 1190.  Double wall or insulated rear header pipe (to stop some of the heat under the seat), wind deflectors under the fairing to help the air flow from around the engine.  New windscreen and face mask.  A flap in front of the oil cooler, to help air flow through the device.

[rocker59]

May 21, 2015 - Presentation in the historical factory in Mandello del Lario for two big new Guzzis. Important innovations in the pipeline for the brand and for the group
 The other criticism has been certain discontinuities in the Guzzi range, with a vacuum to fill between the V7 and the Big Block 1400 , from the moment that the Stelvio and Norge seemed out of step with the rest of the line.

"Have patience. We have just presented these two models, but by the end of the year you will see another. We want to prove that the basis of growth of the Piaggio group are based on the development of design and technological solutions that are able to make us compete against the big japanese and Germans that dominate the market. We are going to do that with the new Aprilia and his commitment in the race, with Moto Guzzi that today presents this new range of models, and Vespa and its tip of the diamond, the 946 and, more generally, with new models of various brands - including Piaggio - that we are launching in the course of the year".

http://www.moto.it/news/roberto-colaninno-trasformeremo-lo-stabilimento-di-mandello-in-un-luogo-da-sogno.html

Come on November!!!

Damn those walls around the factory, and damn the lack of spy photographers in Mandelo del Lario.

I want to know what this mystery 900-1000cc bike is going to be!  Especially before I get all impatient and buy a new bike this year!

 

[Yeahoo Whoyah]

But when we talk of Guzzi, the atmosphere is warm, because there is important news in store for the establishment of Mandello.

They could start by keeping the museum open for longer than an hour.  And don't close it down for "vacation" in August. 

[Lannis]

They could start by keeping the museum open for longer than an hour.  And don't close it down for "vacation" in August.

AAyyy, we not same-a like you Americans, we no die-a early of the heart-attack, we take time off when we-a like, good-a bottle of-a wine with pasta and-a the olive oil, we vivir la buena vida, life is for the enjoyment, not-a to be slave to a clock and the American tourista ...

[rocker59]

They could start by keeping the museum open for longer than an hour.  And don't close it down for "vacation" in August.

Ha! Ha!  You booked a trip to Europe in August ?!?!?!   

Now, I understand this: 

[Jim C]

I've gotta admit: I kinda like the new Cali, just don't have the cash for it.

So, since I'm currently waiting for my red V7 II Stone, maybe I should wait
until November and the EICMA show, to see what MG has in store for the
mid-range. That makes me Goose-less for a year. ACK!! I know, I could go buy
a black or gray V7 II, but would I be happy with that? Probably not. Get one
and trade up? Maybe, but I have a limited budget that I have to work with.

So, a similar Bellagio-type motor in V7 clothes? I could probably swing that
by the time it sailed into port. Dual discs in front, better suspension (front
and rear), coupled with the bigger engine would probably float my boat.

Jim

[lorazepam]

the new Eldorado makes my daddy parts tingle.

[lorazepam]

that too 

[Chuck in Indiana]

Your wallet ?

  Dusty

 

[Waltr]

http://mgx21.motoguzzi.com/en/#video

[sib]

I wonder whether the D. Vader helmet is Snell approved.

[ohiorider]

I believe we see the future .................

[canuguzzi]

At least we know what the name is: "Flying Fortress"

I like it. Clean dash. Great looking bike.

Hide the rear master cylinder or make it black with an inspection sight glass?