MGX-21 Flying Fortress bat bike bagger merged threadfest

[acogoff]

     From the company's perspective that is the segment of market they are seeking to branch out into with this model. Why else build this model? It sure a'int my cup of tea, but some will like it.

[oldbike54]

 I have an idea , someone start a thread about the X21 on an HD forum , keep it running , discuss the tech aspects , sounds like a good way to get the word out .

 Dusty

[Moto]

I have an idea , someone start a thread about the X21 on an HD forum , keep it running , discuss the tech aspects , sounds like a good way to get the word out .

 Dusty

Good idea, but with the introduction of the new Milwaukee Eight engine yesterday, I doubt there would be much interest in a technical discussion of anything else right now!

I suppose you could stir things up a little by calling the valve gear of the Eight a copy of the Guzzi's (which it seems to be), but still, it seems like another case of a Guzzi introduction being lost in the noise from other manufacturers.

Maybe I'm being too defeatist.

[oldbike54]

Good idea, but with the introduction of the new Milwaukee Eight engine yesterday, I doubt there would be much interest in a technical discussion of anything else right now!

I suppose you could stir things up a little by calling the valve gear of the Eight a copy of the Guzzi's (which it seems to be), but still, it seems like another case of a Guzzi introduction being lost in the noise from other manufacturers.

Maybe I'm being too defeatist.

 From what I see there isn't much real tech interest in the 8 valve HD on Harley forums , mostly they are busy discussing non motorbike topics . At least it might give them something MC related to talk about  We have more real HD motorbike related posts here than some HD boards, maybe they could return the favor 

 Dusty

[Moto]

We have more real HD motorbike related posts here than some HD boards, maybe they could return the favor 

 Dusty

 

[ITSec]

As to display in airports: at one time I had accumulated at least a half million frequent flyer miles so I flew a lot.  During most of the time I would have at least an hour layover to the next flight - occasionally, only a few minutes.    People that can afford to fly generally have disposable income and time to visit displays waiting on their incoming flights.  Or like me, traveling on business expenses.

I've seen a lot of cars displayed in malls and airports alike so I don't see why Guzzi couldn't display their bikes.  But then, it may be prohibitive expensive to do so.   Just a thought.

From my experience while working at what was then the largest Indian dealer in the country (first year) - we looked at putting a bike out at the Las Vegas airport, and even had a contract proposal from the airport authority that we discussed with Polaris (and mentioned to Piaggio re the Cali 1400 launch). We could get no interest from either company; the general feeling was that it would be a very expensive replacement for a wall poster in terms of inducing customers to visit the dealership. And it was somewhat expensive by any measure.

[Arizona Wayne]

Talked to Steve Ford last night who was @ Sturgis on his 1400 and if I recall right there were 16 demo Guzzis ridden there.  Steve got the VIP treatment as posted here prior.  Hopefully a lot of non-Guzzi riders checked the new geese models out.

[rocker59]

I've merged this into the threadfest, since it's really just more MGX-21 talk.

[Tom]

 :1: on Americade at Lake George, NY.  Great rally to do demo rides of almost all the brands. 

[LowRyter]

:1: on Americade at Lake George, NY.  Great rally to do demo rides of almost all the brands.

I'd be willing to work for Guzzi at a Rally.  Also would be a ride leader and all the rest.  I'd work cheap. 

[Tom]

You'd have fun.  The Lake George area has sweepers, tight mountain roads and an interstate that you can test a bike on.  All the demo rides, I went on were group rides.  Some more spirited than others.  Boss Hoss was a hoot and I only rode the 350ci bike.

[Green1]

Americade has a large demographic of bikes now not just Goldwings and a more open mind set to bikes in general. Sturgis does have bagger style bikes but more of the mentality of if it isn't a Harley it isn't a bike.I can see Indian revealing bikes there as Harley and Indian have competed since day 1.

[Tom]

 :1:

[LowRyter]

You'd have fun.  The Lake George area has sweepers, tight mountain roads and an interstate that you can test a bike on.  All the demo rides, I went on were group rides.  Some more spirited than others.  Boss Hoss was a hoot and I only rode the 350ci bike.

The Mrs and I took a road trip (car) from OKC to Maine to NYC and spent the night at Lake George in Oct a couple years ago.  Very nice.  Hence my offer.

[Tom]

Volunteer help with Moto Guzzi's at Americade.  How could they not accept.  Nice area.  I test drove a H2 Hummer besides the bikes.  The sales rep. wanted to know why I was shifting an automatic???  Had to show him how to drive and watch the tach.  Not my car. 

[Tom]

Sturgis a bad place to intro a bike???  How about these guys?

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/ducati-debuts-at-sturgis-rally-with-rsd-built-xdiavel-concept

[Luap McKeever]

I cant speak of their ROI for the Sturgis gig, but I can speak of the several people that have stopped in their tracks to look at mine.  A very common response is "I didn't know they still made them".  One guy asked if BMW made it I think that is exactly what Guzzi had in mind.  A reminder of sorts that they are still in the motorsickle makin' business.  One guy pulled into my shop from the highway. He said the red jugs got his attention and he had to do a doubletake and come see what it was. I told him there was still one left in Tulsa and he said "Is there room for the both of us in this town" :-).  As he left, he asked for the dealers name.  Who know.

I'd venture to say that 80% of the people that have called the MGX kick a$$ and very awesome were under the age of 40.  Not one, and I mean not one of my previous 9 Guzzi's has garnered this much attention from non-Guzzi crowds.  This has got to be a good thing for the company.  I know 3 people personally that want one. They all used to ride Guzzi's and switched to another brand.  They want to come back.  I know that's a good thing.

[Tom]

Good to hear.

[Scud]

YAY for MG!! And hey, sure, there are some HD-only guys. But there a lot of guys on Harleys who just like motorcycles and don't know what else is on the menu.

I hope MG makes a bunch of money and that all the dealers do well too. Then maybe, just maybe, an investment can be made in production of a 100th anniversary LeMans or Daytona...

[Chuck in Indiana]

YAY for MG!! And hey, sure, there are some HD-only guys. But there a lot of guys on Harleys who just like motorcycles and don't know what else is on the menu.

I hope MG makes a bunch of money and that all the dealers do well too. Then maybe, just maybe, an investment can be made in production of a 100th anniversary LeMans or Daytona...

Or another cruiser for Robin..

[leafman60]

Or another cruiser for Robin..

funny

[Cool Runnings]

I cant speak of their ROI for the Sturgis gig, but I can speak of the several people that have stopped in their tracks to look at mine.  A very common response is "I didn't know they still made them".  One guy asked if BMW made it I think that is exactly what Guzzi had in mind.  A reminder of sorts that they are still in the motorsickle makin' business.  One guy pulled into my shop from the highway. He said the red jugs got his attention and he had to do a doubletake and come see what it was. I told him there was still one left in Tulsa and he said "Is there room for the both of us in this town" :-).  As he left, he asked for the dealers name.  Who know.

I'd venture to say that 80% of the people that have called the MGX kick a$$ and very awesome were under the age of 40.  Not one, and I mean not one of my previous 9 Guzzi's has garnered this much attention from non-Guzzi crowds.  This has got to be a good thing for the company.  I know 3 people personally that want one. They all used to ride Guzzi's and switched to another brand.  They want to come back.  I know that's a good thing.

I prefer Sport Touring Mounts. 

[Scud]

Or another cruiser for Robin..

LOL

Perhaps a Nuevo Robin (in Red of course) - with some styling cues reminiscent of the Nuevo Falcone.

Bat-Bike and Nuevo Robin; the dynamic duo. BAM! KAPOW! ZAP!

I kind of like the Fortress, but I'm not in the cruiser market. However, a guy in my office who has an HD 1200 Sportster is taking a serious look at the MGX-21. He likes the look (especially the bags and fairing) - but he loves the idea of footpegs, cornering clearance, and powerful brakes. He was all excited about the Guzzi and showed it to me (thinking he had seen it first). He learned about it because he was reading about the Sturgis rally.

I conclude that MG's marketing is not just for the people who show up at Sturgis, but also for the people who read about the event.

[Tom]

I hope a bunch are sold then I can buy one used after the novelty wears off.  Doesn't look like the red 1400 Eldo's are going to be in the used bike sales for a long time. 

[bad Chad]

Perhaps you might want to rise up off the bottom, and buy new?   Your not getting any younger, I'll bet it's been a long time since you had the experience if ever of purchasing a brand new machine, it has a whole different feel, and if done right will make you pleased that you did.

[Cool Runnings]

Perhaps you might want to rise up off the bottom, and buy new?   Your not getting any younger, I'll bet it's been a long time since you had the experience if ever of purchasing a brand new machine, it has a whole different feel, and if done right will make you pleased that you did.

Traded the old cruiser in on a new old stock 2014 Norge last fall (age 62) - 63 this Month!

Why buy used when nicely new will do.... 

[Tom]

 

Perhaps you might want to rise up off the bottom, and buy new?   Your not getting any younger, I'll bet it's been a long time since you had the experience if ever of purchasing a brand new machine, it has a whole different feel, and if done right will make you pleased that you did.

Maybe you'd like to get off your "high horse".  If you meant your comments in jest.  Put an emoji in.  If not then "go f_ck yourself."    

"No un-justified personal or dealer attacks." 

[mojohand]

MotoRichmond setting theirs up:







And ready to go!

[Lannis]

MotoRichmond setting theirs up:

"MotoRichmond" has a more manly ('rockerish') ring to it than "ScootRichmond"!

I think I'll look for an excuse to ride up there one day this week and have a look!

Lannis

[elvisboy77]

MotoRichmond setting theirs up:







And ready to go!


That is one cool bike!  Did you ride it?  Glad to see they changed their name as they are way more than a scooter shop now.  Much more appropriate.  Kudos to Chelsea!