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Pescetarianism
« on: May 19, 2015, 08:56:01 PM »
have decided to make a major change to my diet.  no health issues, but as I get older I figure I better at least try to take better care of myself.  in a nutshell. you can eat whatever you want as long as its not chicken pork or beef.  I eat out for lunch most everyday, and its not as hard as a challenge as one would think ( granted im only 3 weeks into this experiment ).  Asian food, Mexican, and Italian all can be meatless.  or interchange seafood.  upscale burger places will offer a veggie burger or Portobello mushroom.  the only place that is difficult is bbq.  and as a Texan I can eat hella lot of bbq.  but such is life. and as a displaced Chicagoan, no more Italian beef.  dipped. on the plus side, can still have scallops, lobster, and crawfish..  what more can you ask for.

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Re: Pescetarianism
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2015, 09:24:31 PM »
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I'll be curious to see how this thread goes, will volunteer my experiences / opinions on down the page. Good choice on the fish though.
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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2015, 09:35:59 PM »
curious - why no chicken?
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Re: Pescetarianism
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2015, 09:46:30 PM »
the texture.  and also cause chicken is so boring.  Anthony Bourdain says that people order chicken when they don't know what they want to eat.  but really, chicken conditions are fowl.  they de beak them to keep from pecking each other.  they are so heavily breasted that they cant walk.  but mostly.  except for fried chicken, or a nice smoked chicken.  chicken is boring.

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Re: Pescetarianism
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2015, 11:32:58 PM »
Someday, I'll share my recipe for Appleburgers with y'all.

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Re: Pescetarianism
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2015, 11:53:06 PM »
Well, if you ever make it to the Yukon you can try a local delicacy, bum guts. It really is a well known food item here. It's the last few feet of the moose's intestine, before it's ahole. Washed, chopped like onion rings, fried in butter. MMMM. Personally, don't like it. Cant wait for the comments on this one.

I kinda think I'm not doing much for tourism Yukon.

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Re: Pescetarianism
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2015, 12:11:27 AM »
Well, if you ever make it to the Yukon you can try a local delicacy, bum guts. It really is a well known food item here. It's the last few feet of the moose's intestine, before it's ahole. Washed, chopped like onion rings, fried in butter. MMMM. Personally, don't like it. Cant wait for the comments on this one.

I kinda think I'm not doing much for tourism Yukon.

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Re: Pescetarianism
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2015, 12:44:19 AM »
Here's my reply and my religion which I will cling to.



Besides you need to eat meat if you want the muscle

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Re: Pescetarianism
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2015, 03:15:31 AM »
Do you use a patch or gum to help deal with the withdrawal?


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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2015, 05:30:48 AM »
Except for the chicken, pork, and beef part, that's pretty much my diet.

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Re: Pescetarianism
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2015, 06:14:20 AM »
Well, if you ever make it to the Yukon you can try a local delicacy, bum guts. It really is a well known food item here. It's the last few feet of the moose's intestine, before it's ahole. Washed, chopped like onion rings, fried in butter. MMMM. Personally, don't like it. Cant wait for the comments on this one.

I kinda think I'm not doing much for tourism Yukon.
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Re: Pescetarianism
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2015, 08:00:36 AM »
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they de beak them to keep from pecking each other.

Even when they are open ranged, without de beaking some chickens will be killed or injured. Where do you think the term "pecking order" came from?
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Re: Pescetarianism
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2015, 08:10:19 AM »
I'm not a nutritionist, but shell foods like lobster and shrimp are high in cholesterol.  Not sure about scallops/oysters/etc.  Good luck on the diet friend :)
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Re: Pescetarianism
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2015, 08:50:48 AM »
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Even when they are open ranged, without de beaking some chickens will be killed or injured. Where do you think the term "pecking order" came from?
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Well of course some will be killed, or would you rather they be eaten alive?
  Dead fish are very good for you as are water bugs, (lobster, shrimp, etc.) especially the etc.
 And what about dead baby sheep, (lamb)?
 Then of course if you are polynesian, there is dead spam (substitute for long pig) and a favorite since WW2 introduced it to islanders.
 And if you have been a soldier you must consider S.O.S.
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Re: Pescetarianism
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2015, 10:25:26 AM »
No Veggies please.

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Re: Pescetarianism
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2015, 10:59:55 AM »
No chicken, but is turkey allowed?  That could fix the BBQ issue, as most BBQ places sell smoked turkey these days.

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Re: Pescetarianism
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2015, 11:38:34 AM »
  Nicotined Turkey causes cancer of the drumsticks.  No smoking please.

 BTW, was that ten pointer 240pounds dressed out or on the hoof?
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« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2015, 11:55:27 AM »
Homo sapiens, like most primates, evolved eating the occasional bit of flesh. The emphasis there being "a bit". Depending on your station in life, as long as meat consumption does not dominate, your system will not suffer. Unfortunately, the greatest single problem with the food we eat is what happens to it before said food reaches your mouth. "Processing" changes the nature of foodstuffs in a fundamental way. IMO, it is those changes that are responsible for the majority of "dis-eases" we suffer.

Go back to being a hunter-gatherer. Gather ye some grains and make beer. Catch ye a fish and eat it. That is the sort of behavior which might grant you a long life.

As for moose assholes? I'll pass.

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Re: Pescetarianism
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2015, 12:17:24 PM »
I'm not a nutritionist, but shell foods like lobster and shrimp are high in cholesterol.  Not sure about scallops/oysters/etc.  Good luck on the diet friend :)

These salt water creatures are also loaded with..........salt.
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« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2015, 12:25:17 PM »
These salt water creatures are also loaded with..........salt.

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« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2015, 12:30:55 PM »
Lordy! Say it ain't so!

That makes them taste even better when dipped in salted butter.  ;D
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Re: Pescetarianism
« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2015, 01:04:52 PM »
From what I understand--and pretty much everything we think we know about diets turns out to be wrong--cholesterol in food doesn't matter. Saturated fat in food is what is metabolized by the liver into cholesterol, and in turn is supposedly bad for your arteries.

But lean protein is almost always good. Just avoid sugar, which is basically poison, and you'll be halfway there.
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Re: Pescetarianism
« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2015, 02:18:24 PM »
 The cholesterol in Lobster as mostly from bathing the bugs in butter before putting it in your mouth.
 Without salt, you will die.  Moderation is the key in all things except sex.
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Re: Pescetarianism
« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2015, 02:31:14 PM »
Our brains do much better with some fish oils in the diet - two of the three craziest people I know are lifelong vegetarians. I know, correlation does not mean causation, but...

Chicken is usually boring, but spiced properly it's alright. And the free range / organic versions taste so much better.

Meat in moderation is good for you, we have the teeth of an omnivore for a reason. Me, I could live on fish, and eat it at the slightest excuse, but that's just me.
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Re: Pescetarianism
« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2015, 02:57:40 PM »
Its best if you can take meat out of the diet -It lightens the body.
Information I've been told is that with the hormones etc in the meat now, it can take up to 6 mos for it to clear out of the body.
If you're going to do red meat, recommend organic only.

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« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2015, 03:00:55 PM »
There are lots of various sorts of fishes that taste differently and with different textures.
Each can be cooked in many different ways, many can be eaten raw, smoked, marinated, ceviche, ...........
Fish is simply a vastly bigger universe than beef, pork and chicken.  :drool
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Re: Pescetarianism
« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2015, 03:51:04 PM »
Eating raw fish, cooked octopus and rice and reading this.
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« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2015, 04:00:30 PM »
"two of the three craziest people I know are lifelong vegetarians."

Think I'll have a salad... with a side of semi-automatic weaponry.

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Re: Pescetarianism
« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2015, 05:33:35 PM »
I like my diet of little debbie snack cakes and chocolate milk. It is meat free, but may contain bits of rodents that fall in during processing.

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« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2015, 07:32:12 PM »
Eschewed beef entirely beginning in 2007 when Karen had two (mild) heart attacks.  Last July, a nurse co-worker convinced us to go vegan with no animal products but wild-caught fish.  We have adhered to this diet since and our weight is down a little (both have BMI of 20 or slightly less) and our cholesterol numbers have improved, especially LDLs, which have dropped noticeably.  No problem with persistent hunger.  Beans, legumes, and wild-caught fish provide plenty of protein.  Biggest problem is finding restaurant meals we can eat in a world of rapacious carnivores (our fellow diners--not the menu items). 

Certain meat products may not be inherently bad for us, but the growth hormones, etc are not good for us and chicken in NorCal is cheaper than apples, pound for pound.  There IS a reason for that and farm-raised fish are fed grow-fast stuff city rats would pass by. 

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