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To all those who are yet to reach 65yo or older, the weight of your MC, especially when riding 2up, becomes a major factor on what rig you are going to keep riding on. Us older riders no longer have the muscle strength we used to have like you probably still have.
And that's the reason I no longer own my EV :(Best,Carlo
I can understand that, though we should also remember it's not just how much it weighs, but how high or low it carries that weight.I've had bikes that were taller and weighed less (sometimes by hundreds of pounds) that felt heavier than bikes that were lower but actually much heavier.Though I'll also admit none of those heavy and low bikes ever felt AS light as say our Monster or V7.
Interesting. So you find the older bikes easier to handle? Jorg
There just don't seem to be any Guzzi around locally which if I had to be honest is also part of the appeal.
Carlo , aren't real Eldos close to 600 Lbs wet ? Dusty
Dusty,I honestly don't know the weight of my Eldo. It's a naked civilian model, with no bags at the moment and it just SEEMS to be the lightest bike I've owned in some time. Riding it in the Driftless Region of Wisconsin is an easy pleasure.I've been wrong before -- and sure as hell I will be again :)Best,Carlo
One of my friends has a little monster. What a wonderfull solo bike.
Quote from: Carlo DeSantis on June 04, 2015, 02:43:28 PMAnd that's the reason I no longer own my EV :(Best,CarloIndeed I do. The basic T3 weighs a bit less than the basic EV. Then I added three HB chrome fames and hardcases; Rifle windshield (including lowers); a really heavy aftermarket seat; chromed Unity aux lights; bigger and heavier tires and wheels; and a few other things. In addition, the EV has a longer wheelbase and higher triple clamp. I'm guessing the T3 weighs something like 550# wet vs well over 600# wet for the EV. So the EV was bigger, heavier and had a higher CoG. It was wearing me out pushing it around the garage, and I felt it was only a matter of time before I had a zero mph drop with it.My Eldo -- should I ever get it back on the road -- is much lighter than either T3 or EV.In addition, my garage has a BMW R1200R that is about a bit over 500# wet with side cases and smallish windshield, and what feels like a lower CoG than the EV. And another thing: if I wasn't so invested in my T3, I'd replace it with a V7!The older I get, the smaller and lighter bikes are looking better and better.As always, YMMV :)Best,Carlo
How would you compare them for two up riding? The EV, the T3, and the Eldo?Thanks.
If you are looking for a hydro:http://www.ebay.com/itm/Moto-Guzzi-California-EV-/301651504687?forcerrptr=true&hash=item463bd4ae2f&item=301651504687The black Touring I EV's didn't have the heated grips or the electrical outlet but all I've seen came with the dual plate clutch. This guy says that "GuzziSteve" did the recall on this bike and that's a good indication that the original owner told him the proper history (there's only one GuzziSteve!). Other than the Staintune exhaust and the pinstriping the mods are in good taste and the mileage is good for a hydro (if that ITI speedo hasn't died yet). It also looks like it has the Showa Harley Air Shocks on it which is a popular upgrade.
From what I read, the seat was lowered on the Vintage; I forget the reason, but it may have been something to do with the position of the battery.
I've been puzzling over your comments, because I agree that those figures look the same, but I know I read that the leg position was more cramped on the Vintage, and I know my friend found it to be so. I've not been able to locate where I read the reasons, but I have found the difference illustrated on this site: http://cycle-ergo.com/If you compare the Vintage to the Jackal, you'll see that the knee angle is only 79 degrees on the former, but 85 degrees on the latter; obviously, the Jackal has pegs instead of footboards, but I don't think that affects the position.If nothing else, perhaps others will find the above site useful if they've not come across it before!
I've heard it mentioned here and at Guzzitech that the 02 was one of the more sorted EV's. What makes it so. Pre-hydro but single plate clutch I believe? Is the ECM still under the seat on the 02? How difficult is it to move the ECU from the under seat location and will other seats then fit? Since it will be a two up bike I believe the ECU under the seat models won't work for the passenger. Thanks Jorg.
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