I want a new bike

[mach1mustang351]

I know I am counting a possibly biased crowd here but it was worth a shot. I am wanting a new bike. I ride an '07 V Strom and it has been an okay bike for me. I also have the 1000SP I an still working on. My tentative plan was to replace the v Strom with a newer adventure type bike. I then keep thinking that I want a "toy" instead. The wife and I are discussing a family, a move and such and i dont think my touring will be very extensive the next few years. Also, every time I look at the Stelvios, BMW GS, Triumph Explorer etc. It keeps coming back to two bikes. A new Indian Scout or a new Griso. Completely different I know but those are the only two on the short list. Anyone have any thoughts?

[Lannis]

I know I am counting a possibly biased crowd here but it was worth a shot. I am wanting a new bike. I ride an '07 V Strom and it has been an okay bike for me. I also have the 1000SP I an still working on. My tentative plan was to replace the v Strom with a newer adventure type bike. I then keep thinking that I want a "toy" instead. The wife and I are discussing a family, a move and such and i dont think my touring will be very extensive the next few years. Also, every time I look at the Stelvios, BMW GS, Triumph Explorer etc. It keeps coming back to two bikes. A new Indian Scout or a new Griso. Completely different I know but those are the only two on the short list. Anyone have any thoughts?

No one's going to be able to say that one is "better" or "more reliable" or "will suit you better" or is "better for more kinds of riding", not truthfully anyway.

My advice is to ride both and see which one speaks to you ....

Lannis

[bad Chad]

Griso to be sure.  Scouts will be a dime a dozen in a year or two, but the mighty Griso will always be something very special.

[canuguzzi]

Since you specify an Adventure style bike, close to it is an Aprilia Mana. They are super reasonable right now, can come with a small fairing, good side bags and even a decent tail trunk. The thing is they are an auto tran deal so no shifting or clutch work but you can paddle shift the 7  speeds.

It could be a do all bike with little fuss and from all accounts, they seem to be reliable. Pete could give you a better heads up about them.

They come in Red, White and Black. And it is Italian and not something everyone else has.

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[Guzzistajohn]

I just passed 55,000 miles on the '06 Triumph Tiger on a Colorado trip last week. The only issue I have had with it was the stator crapped out @ 22,000 mi. Put in an American made unit by Rick's and it's been flawless. Just sayin'  If I had to do it all over again, I'd do it again!

[lucian]

If you ride two up a lot the scout may be best , as the griso is a little cramped, but for a one up there is no comparison, i would definitely go Griso if you like the ergo's. It will out run, out turn and outperform the Scout by every measure. Hard to compare a cruiser to a sport bike really, two different animals. Guess you gotta get the right tool for the job at hand,best of luck,both are nice bikes for there segment.

[mach1mustang351]

When I first saw a pic of the Scout I was in love. That is further encouraged by the fact my first bike was an Indian Bambino when i was little, and my dad just finished restoring his first bike, a 1941 chief. I have a lot of love for the name plate. I have ridden a 4v Griso and it is so much fun. They are also drop dead sexy.  I worry about the Griso not being used to its potential as we have few curvy roads here in Alaska that would do the bike justice. So a cruiser may be more practical.

[Farmer Dan]

I can't make up my mind between the new Indian Scout or the 2015 Eldorado. 

[Kev m]

My wife and I have (in the past year) had another kid and moved to a new state for her to start her career.

It's DRAMATICALLY changed the way that I look at bikes for the next few years at least.

Distance Touring means nothing, but ironically because of the flat/straight roads comfort at speed means more than abilities in the twisties.

So I can see how your potential upcoming changes could and should influence your decision.

I think both the Scout and Griso are great bikes, the differences largely being ergos and handling. So decide what you want more.

Good luck.

[MariusD]

I can't make up my mind between the new Indian Scout or the 2015 Eldorado.

All it will take is a test ride on both and you will know instantly. They are very different bikes. The scout will feel like a toy compared to the Eldo.

[Perazzimx14]

If you buy a Griso get used to stopping for fuel every 125 miles.

The Griso is for lack of a better term a "bar hopper". The limited fuel range eliminates it from touring and it is to big and long to be a fun hooligan bike. YMMV but you fuel mileage will not

[NC Steve]

Since you specify an Adventure style bike, close to it is an Aprilia Mana. They are super reasonable right now, can come with a small fairing, good side bags and even a decent tail trunk. The thing is they are an auto tran deal so no shifting or clutch work but you can paddle shift the 7  speeds.

It could be a do all bike with little fuss and from all accounts, they seem to be reliable. Pete could give you a better heads up about them.

They come in Red, White and Black. And it is Italian and not something everyone else has.

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The Mana may very well be my next bike.
Other than off road riding, which it's not designed for (nor am I), it seems to do everything, and do it well.

[Moto]

If you buy a Griso get used to stopping for fuel every 125 miles.

The Griso is for lack of a better term a "bar hopper". The limited fuel range eliminates it from touring and it is to big and long to be a fun hooligan bike. YMMV but you fuel mileage will not

You're too pessimistic, but that's likely because the warning light is too pessimistic. At 40 mpg on the highway, which is easily achieved, the Griso is good for more than 175 miles. You could want more, of course.

The Griso is a good touring bike if you find it comfortable (I do). It doesn't come with cruise control, but it doesn't sound like the OP is planning long trips. I find it perfectly fun as a hooligan bike.

[NC Steve]

Just to continue my thread hijack, there's a dealer in MD that has 2 brand new 2013 leftover Manas listed on eBay,
priced at $7999+ $100 doc fee, out the door, and delivered to you free within the US.

That's just FYI. I'll stfu and crawl away now... 

[Perazzimx14]

You're too pessimistic, but that's likely because the warning light is too pessimistic. At 40 mpg on the highway, which is easily achieved, the Griso is good for more than 175 miles. You could want more, of course.

The Griso is a good touring bike if you find it comfortable (I do). It doesn't come with cruise control, but it doesn't sound like the OP is planning long trips. I find it perfectly fun as a hooligan bike.

My 2007 Griso never saw mileage above 35 mpg usually less. This was in both stock trim and later with a aftermarket can.

[lucian]

A Bar Hopper,  I like that. I wonder how many bars I can hop to on one tank full? I'll report back. Am I a hooligan if I ride a Bar Hopper?

[Red07]

I currently ride an 07 griso 1100.  I think it is a great bike.  I don't tour on it, but I have done 400 mile days on it without to many problems.  I put 1/2" spacers under the bars  and also the Knight Design 1" lower pegs which also help the ergos a bit. 

The Griso is a great all-around motorcycle.  Good around town, and good for day/weekend trips...or further.

Don't know much about the Indian, other than it's a nice looking bike (sits rather low) and it seems to be getting good reviews.

Like Lannis said, ride both.  One will speak louder than the other.

Randy

[LowRyter]

sport standard vs small sport cruiser 

[Vasco DG]

If you buy a Griso get used to stopping for fuel every 125 miles.

The Griso is for lack of a better term a "bar hopper". The limited fuel range eliminates it from touring and it is to big and long to be a fun hooligan bike. YMMV but you fuel mileage will not

Frogshit. 300+Km from a tank on the Griso is easily achievable and while it won't change direction like a Tuono it is a fine hooligan tool. In comparison the Cali14 is a wallowing tank!

Pete

[mach1mustang351]

The Griso is listed as a 4.4 gallon tank. I would think 160 would be pretty reasonable. I dont know that I will tour on it but it may be used on occasion for an over night trip. Does any one know if there is any necessary upgrades right off the bat that need done?  I have read about some of the newer guzzis needing ti get remapped for optimal performance and runability.  I am not a mods guy so the bike will likely stay stock its whole life.... although I would want 100 rwhp not for me but so i can give a coworker a hard time

[jovato]

The Mana may very well be my next bike.
Other than off road riding, which it's not designed for (nor am I), it seems to do everything, and do it well.

You can pick them up for a song.  The bike is very vibey at just highway speed.  The front end also wallows at higher speeds.   They get killer gas mileage.

[rboe]

I tour on my Griso, but it took a Russell Day Long seat to make it comfortable. That said, I know of an 85 year old from the Seattle area that tours on his Griso (e.g down to Arizona and New Mexico) with the stock seat and no windscreen. Damn! He rides like a 25 year old too.

So you could say the Griso is a sport tourer.

The other fellow that I know for sure tours on his (States side) comes from the Pacific Northwest too. Must be something in the water up there. I know there are others. It ain't no Goldwing; but I prefer touring on the Griso to my Honda.

I've sat on the Scout, ergo's don't do it for me as I'm too long and lanky; more of a Indian Chief or 1400 California kinda body.

I've been remapping my Griso with the work from the gang over on grisoghetto.com; mileage is typically around 42 on the road now.

Both bikes look good, have plenty of power with nice touring accessories available; it's just a matter of which on fits you better.

[jovato]

Since you said you were looking for more of a new "toy", I might steer you towards the scout.  Beautiful bike that will leave a grin on your face on any sunny Sunday afternoon.  If you were looking to put more serious miles on the bike, or if you do more urban commuting, then I would say Griso all the way.  My last bike was an M109R.  The stretched out cruiser position is really, really fun...until it isn't.  The Griso riding position is much more forgiving in wind or weather. 

[Kev m]

FWIW Jovato, there's nothing stretched out about the Scout unless you're much shorter than my modest 5'10". I just kinda sit on it, no reaching/stretching.

[mach1mustang351]

FWIW Jovato, there's nothing stretched out about the Scout unless you're much shorter than my modest 5'10". I just kinda sit on it, no reaching/stretching.

Im 5'10" too!! Unfortunately no test rides. I have neither an Indian dealer nor a Guzzi dealer in Alaska. I will likely have to choose and hope for the best.

[Kev m]

Im 5'10" too!! Unfortunately no test rides. I have neither an Indian dealer nor a Guzzi dealer in Alaska. I will likely have to choose and hope for the best.

Hmmm, that's tough.

No chance of a vacation where you visit somewhere (Cal?) you can ride both?

They are fairly different in ergos, and I suspect the Griso has more suspension and lean.

They are similar in power, and perhaps feel from a wheelbase perspective.

I liked them both, but my own history has taught me I'd prefer the Scout (see long posts under the V7 Power Bump thread for explanation).

Good luck making the decision.