What Knife Should a Guzzi Rider Carry?

[sturgeon]

Pedantic English users aware of German orthography cringe at the inability to type diacritic characters and resort to wordprocessing trickery to achieve that end.  Back in the bad old days of mechanical typewriters, it was perfectly acceptable to use non-diacritic character combinations.  Thus, transliteration was done typically by following the base character by the letter "e".  For example: Mueller and Faellkniven.

I used to just use a fountain pen to add the umlauts, etc 

[donn]

and they appear if you click on Preview. Just not after it's actually posted. I'm too far removed these days from IT stuff to try to track it down. Looks to me like a quirk of the forum software, however.

Yes, "a feature."  ("See Figure 1.")  Also degree signs, and the quotes you get if (I guess) you type text with quote marks in some Microsoft edit application and paste it here.  What we get back is ü a three byte unicode "replacement character."  I was trying character set options, like maybe we're sending ISO Latin-1 and UTF-8 would work, but am not really sure I have any control over the character set in form posts.

[sturgeon]

Yes, "a feature."  ("See Figure 1.")  Also degree signs, and the quotes you get if (I guess) you type text with quote marks in some Microsoft edit application and paste it here.  What we get back is � a three byte unicode "replacement character."  I was trying character set options, like maybe we're sending ISO Latin-1 and UTF-8 would work, but am not really sure I have any control over the character set in form posts.

Seen this?

http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/UTF-8_Readme

[donn]

Well, that adds up - there's a recent character set change, that puts UTF-8 into the picture, and here we're getting a character conversion error with a UTF-8 result.  I found a post from December that I'm fairly sure was fine at the time, now has this same problem, so it isn't exactly a browser input configuration problem.  I can't say I have much more of a clue than that, though.

From that page, my take would be that we would be better off without UTF-8, but if all the old posts have been damaged by a conversion that turned non-ASCII characters into replacement characters, it's too late to do much good and it would probably be better to move forward with UTF-8 and try to fix it.  I don't know that's the situation, though - depends on where the replacement character shows up, if it's in the data now or if the replacement happens in the presentation.

[rodekyll]

Anyone use these?

Sharp!

"Hold still while I unbolt my knife . . . . "


I saw a news item about a girl who crashed her dirt bike and went into the e-room with the brake lever sticking out of her thigh.  I think this lever is the perfect alternative to the ball-ended ones inn that situation.

[ScepticalScotty]

Carry my Swiss Army Hunter pretty much everywhere - its just so useful. Got it in 2000 and its been a classy bit of gear.

[Mayor_of_BBQ]

Anyone use these?

Sharp!

gross

[Penderic]

Now these gloves make sense! 

[sturgeon]

Well, that adds up - there's a recent character set change, that puts UTF-8 into the picture, and here we're getting a character conversion error with a UTF-8 result.  I found a post from December that I'm fairly sure was fine at the time, now has this same problem, so it isn't exactly a browser input configuration problem.  I can't say I have much more of a clue than that, though.

From that page, my take would be that we would be better off without UTF-8, but if all the old posts have been damaged by a conversion that turned non-ASCII characters into replacement characters, it's too late to do much good and it would probably be better to move forward with UTF-8 and try to fix it.  I don't know that's the situation, though - depends on where the replacement character shows up, if it's in the data now or if the replacement happens in the presentation.

I can't imagine anyone cares overly much about old posts with the occasional strange looking character. Might be nice to just move forward with something that displays correctly from now on. But I'm not the poor bastid that has to figure out what to do and deal with all the complaints 

[Penderic]

Hows about a complete banquet set!

 

[oldbike54]

Pedantic English users aware of German orthography cringe at the inability to type diacritic characters and resort to wordprocessing trickery to achieve that end.  Back in the bad old days of mechanical typewriters, it was perfectly acceptable to use non-diacritic character combinations.  Thus, transliteration was done typically by following the base character by the letter "e".  For example: Mueller and Faellkniven.

 Well sure , but what about the French 

  Dusty

[AJ Huff]

Only when I have my knife roll in my side bag. :)  No Takedas though. I'm planning on ordering a Watanabe debate before the year's up.

-AJ

This guy gets it!

Here is my Watanabe, a 270mm 'blue paper' steel Gyuto



In related news, here's my Takeda Chukabucho

[ITSec]

Well sure , but what about the French 

  Dusty

Et pour quelle raison pensez-vous que les Français ne peut pas se soigner? Après tout, ce sont eux qui a donné au monde "la liberté, l'égalité, et la fraternité!"

[Mad Mac]

A Motobecane rider would probably carry a French Army Knife.

[Mad Mac]

Hows about a complete banquet set!   

That would be great if they were 13/16, 22mm and 27mm closed end and 12mm and 14mm open end wrenches.

I sure have missed this forum.

[Luap McKeever]

This is all I've been carrying for 25+ years.  Does everything I need it to do.


They're cheap, surprisingly strong, and one can be found in every town.

[donn]

Only when I have my knife roll in my side bag. :)  No Takedas though. I'm planning on ordering a Watanabe debate before the year's up.

I drooled over pictures of cool Japanese kitchen knifes, but then I found a $6 Korean kitchen knife in a little Asian grocery.  That was a few years ago, now they're more like $12 on Ebay, where they're usually marketed in Japanese terms - deba etc.  I guess mine is deba, but it's large and not all that thick, and the edge is ground on both sides, and nice fat round wood handle.  Can't beat it.

[davevv]

Case mini-trapper.  I've had one of these in my pocket for over 50 years.  I've lost one and worn out two.  Very handy general purpose pocket knife.

[Mayor_of_BBQ]

I drooled over pictures of cool Japanese kitchen knifes, but then I found a $6 Korean kitchen knife in a little Asian grocery.  That was a few years ago, now they're more like $12 on Ebay, where they're usually marketed in Japanese terms - deba etc.  I guess mine is deba, but it's large and not all that thick, and the edge is ground on both sides, and nice fat round wood handle.  Can't beat it.

If it's not thick.. ir's not a deba

a deba is a heavy knife for butchering fish

the yo deba has a western style handle and (usually) a 50/50 or 70/30 bevel


a hon deba has the traditional Japanese octagonal 'wa' handle and a chisel type bevel


In both cases they are very thick & rigid
My 165mm Nenox like the one above is 4mm thick at the spine!
My 210mm hon deba is almost 6mm!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXpJqD5oJ-w

[donn]

If it's not thick.. ir's not a deba

Whatever.  I'm saying, if you want to get in on the good stuff, for $12 with free shipping from Korea, I'm looking at a 16cm "deba" on Ebay that looks like what I have.  They also put "santoku" in the text in case you like that better - as I say, "whatever."  It's $12.  Thickness at the handle is 3mm, on mine.  Totally up to cutting through fish - frozen solid fish, for that matter.

Sadly, not much pocket knives from that part of the world - I gather from their point of view, carrying a knife around in your pocket is a sort of farmer thing, and they don't go for the farmer look.  In the US, however, article in the local paper a couple of weeks ago proclaims it to be a cool fashion accessory.

[Mayor_of_BBQ]

Whatever.  I'm saying, if you want to get in on the good stuff, for $12 with free shipping from Korea, I'm looking at a 16cm "deba" on Ebay that looks like what I have.  They also put "santoku" in the text in case you like that better - as I say, "whatever."  It's $12.  Thickness at the handle is 3mm, on mine.  Totally up to cutting through fish - frozen solid fish, for that matter.

Sadly, not much pocket knives from that part of the world - I gather from their point of view, carrying a knife around in your pocket is a sort of farmer thing, and they don't go for the farmer look.  In the US, however, article in the local paper a couple of weeks ago proclaims it to be a cool fashion accessory.

you can also try search term 'hocho' and get some good results on general purpose home kitchen knives...  a term for general purpose Japanese "cook's knives" (not exact translation, I think it just means knife.. but thats how they are often listed)

Also 'gyuto' for chef's knife type shape and 'nakiri' for the small, thin, vegetable cleaver

One of the best knives I own is a chinese cook's cleaver that I ordered from an online Asian Market super-store.. "Town Food Service" is the mark and #2 is the model  deff not too fancy but maybe $22 at the time.. it has one of the most frighteningly sharp edges in my tool box.

[AJ Huff]

LOL! Whatever works man. I personally wouldn't want a Korean kitchen knife because it doesn't work for me. Give me my Sabs, my customs, Geshins, etc. Just like on a bike , Spydercos are popular. I don't like anything in my pockets. So give me a Gerber multi tool I. My saddle bag. I know I'd rather have a box cutter than nothing though.

-AJ

[donn]

One of the best knives I own is a chinese cook's cleaver that I ordered from an online Asian Market super-store.

Yeah, the other main knife on the rack here is a Chinese vegetable cleaver, light weight stainless blade.  Week before last I watched as the lady of the house used it to cut a pizza on an expanded-mesh pan, and really leaning into it.  With a little touch up it seems to be OK, and anyway I didn't pay a lot for it!  I like this shape a lot better than the nakiri or usuba style, it leaves more room under the handle for fingers.

[atavar]

If I were going to invest significant money ($50) in an edc knife it would probably be this..

[Toecutter]

I've been cooking professionally for over 27 years, and I have probably been holding a knife for more than hours than I haven't.

It is my humble opinion that the best knife is a combination of simplicity, quality and "feel".

I love Sabatier Knives, "Sabatier K" are my go to. They make amazing kichen knives, and fantastic utility and folders.

[Texas Turnip]

This discussion on knives separates the city boys from us country folks. Bet you'll never find a farmer with a one bladed knife. One blade is used for castrating, cutting out boils, scrapping your boots clean, cleaning battery posts, etc and the other blade is used for cutting an apple, watermelon, slicing cheese, etc. My grandad said "never take a slice of apple from a one bladed knife"

A knife is always in my pocket. I'll never board a plane again!
Tex

[oldbike54]

This discussion on knives separates the city boys from us country folks. Bet you'll never find a farmer with a one bladed knife. One blade is used for castrating, cutting out boils, scrapping your boots clean, cleaning battery posts, etc and the other blade is used for cutting an apple, watermelon, slicing cheese, etc. My grandad said "never take a slice of apple from a one bladed knife"

A knife is always in my pocket. I'll never board a plane again!
Tex

 Let's be honest Ken , that ain't the real reason you can't board a plane 

  Dusty

[Chuck in Indiana]

This discussion on knives separates the city boys from us country folks. Bet you'll never find a farmer with a one bladed knife. One blade is used for castrating, cutting out boils, scrapping your boots clean, cleaning battery posts, etc and the other blade is used for cutting an apple, watermelon, slicing cheese, etc. My grandad said "never take a slice of apple from a one bladed knife"

A knife is always in my pocket. I'll never board a plane again!
Tex

true. The TSA must like my pocket knives. I've given them several. A farmer isn't dressed if he doesn't have a knife in his pocket.

[donn]

This discussion on knives separates the city boys from us country folks. Bet you'll never find a farmer with a one bladed knife. One blade is used for castrating, cutting out boils, scrapping your boots clean, cleaning battery posts, etc and the other blade is used for cutting an apple, watermelon, slicing cheese, etc.

I'm just a city boy, but to me ... if scraping boots, cutting cheese and surgery are going to be done with two blades, with no cleaning allowed, as a practical matter I might reserve the clean blade for surgery.  Cheese is already full of bacteria, so what the heck.

[fotoguzzi]

Now these gloves make sense! 

That's good!

  A farmer isn't dressed if he doesn't have a knife in his pocket.

that is too.

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