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Fun comes at a cost.Pete
Everything costs. It just depends whether you want a Walmart life at the lowest possible price or you would like something a bit more exotic and enjoyable, different even, and are willing to spend a bit more.In the U.S. A Griso costs what? 12.5k and chump change? Over here a 2015 G8 is a $22,000 proposition. When I bought mine eight years ago the cost was a bit more. (Factor in inflation etc.) I still wouldn't swap it for anything else available for the price or a lot less. It speaks to me, it's a fantastic experience and it's more fun than snorting un-cut blow off a Brazilian hooker's tits!It's simple. If you don't like the 8V or like it but are worried that it will interfere with your walmartian obsession with 'Cost'? (sorry I can't come at 'Value!) buy something else but FFS don't try and say it's a shitbox based on spurious and ignorant scaremongering.Pete
good thing i'm hanging on to my CentaurO with it's indestructible 8V :) Grisos always felt a little too sissified for my likes. :P
So far I have not had to replace the Stelvio's oil pump or belts.
One of the reasons I sold the Centauro and got the Stelvio is that the Centauro was too expensive to maintain. And many parts were becoming unobtainium. So even if the Stelvio has some unexpected costs, at least it won't become scrap as easily.So far I have not had to replace the Stelvio's oil pump or belts.That, and the Stelvio motors extra horses add to the fun.
Oh, and as a counterpoint to all the 'Oh it's a 50,000 mile engine' nonsense some of you might be interested to know that at over 50,000 miles when I pulled the valves to inspect them the results were outstanding.I performed the 'Pull Test' on the loose valves and the results were perfect. With my finger over the end of the oil seal pulling out the valve and releasing it it drew itself straight back in. The guide to stem seal was still brilliant. Comparing the stems of the valves with new ones the difference was very hard to measure with my good quality micrometer, it was microns of wear. Exhaust as expected showed slightly more than inlets but the cooling galleries are obviously doing their job.If this was a 50,000 mile 2-Valver, especially a big valve Squarefin, the valves would be flopping about in the guides like a cock in a sock! It's swings and roundabouts. No piece of engineering is perfect but to suggest the 8V is going to suffer some sort of longevity issue and is poorly engineered overall is facile and stupid.Pete
Well done Pete I like the idea of getting the last mile and working out exactly why things fail but sadly I've missed what that was, can you tell ?For others, esp those that travel far from workshop it may not be sensible to do same, once it has happened I don,'t think it wise to keep riding, far more damage may follow, possibly not covered by warranty,Surely it would make more sense to change to rollers now, remove the pin from the hand grenadeJust my way, others may differ
(Sigh!)
It was a legitimate question. What is your thought on the previous generations longevity? Guzzi neophyte here.
Interesting development. Just took bike out for a gallop and it's going to need a new map. Although Guzzi use the same GRS8V-03 map for both flat and roller tappet bikes running open loop there are obviously big differences in how the engine is breathing.especiall y at the top end. Some logging work will tell the story but probably the last 15% or so of throttle, especially in the lower gears, it's like running into a brick wall! Feels like it's going lean but I'm not going to call that,I'll wait for the log data.Pete
