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I should have used spruce, not jack pine (NF woes- continued)
« on: July 28, 2015, 12:06:27 PM »
JayDee24ca http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=77879.msg1224009#msg1224009 was perhaps right. If only I'd used spruce, not jack pine, I would have been fine.

In the end though, I made some grand mulch.  Astonishingly, the tyre seems to be undamaged and may give me a few more miles yet.  I've found a few spoke-heads which might have been the cause of my troubles.

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Re: I should have used spruce, not jack pine (NF woes- continued)
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2015, 12:19:31 PM »
Once you stuffed all that inside the tire were you able to balance it?  :evil:
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Re: I should have used spruce, not jack pine (NF woes- continued)
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2015, 12:38:29 PM »
Quote from: twhitaker on July 28, 2015, 12:19:31 PM
Once you stuffed all that inside the tire were you able to balance it?  :evil:

Yep - it stayed vertical most of the time  :wink:
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Re: I should have used spruce, not jack pine (NF woes- continued)
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2015, 01:09:25 PM »
A really impressive mulcher - have been thinking about practical uses. Be meticulous with the spoke heads - 1,800km into  our V Twins Around Oz trip, one of the Carberrys had a flat, 800km later a rear tyre blow out at speed (broken ribs & collar bone & a year before his next long trip) was traced to the blade-like edges of spoke end poking through the rim tape into the tube. That sort of thing can really ruin your day.

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Re: I should have used spruce, not jack pine (NF woes- continued)
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2015, 01:16:27 PM »
Mad. Totally mad, and delightfully so.
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Re: I should have used spruce, not jack pine (NF woes- continued)
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2015, 02:05:40 PM »
     I don't think I am smart enough to have thought to even try the stuffing method. And maybe it is just me always being paranoid but I have always used two rubber strips on my rims- don't weigh much extra and I have seen the strips get pushed a bit out of place by inept (that would be me) tire installation. I imagine filling the tires with black flies and mosquitoes could have been a 2nd although more time consuming  option. Might be a good reason why Hubert Kriegel carries 2 or 3 extra tires on his ten years on the road side car adventure.
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Re: I should have used spruce, not jack pine (NF woes- continued)
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2015, 02:27:00 PM »
Hang onto this one for the mcgyver awards come winter.
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Re: I should have used spruce, not jack pine (NF woes- continued)
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2015, 02:34:55 PM »
Macgyver would have tapped a tree and filled the tube with sap. Self sealing don't you know. :^)
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Re: I should have used spruce, not jack pine (NF woes- continued)
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2015, 02:39:32 PM »
Quote from: acogoff on July 28, 2015, 02:05:40 PM
    And maybe it is just me always being paranoid but I have always used two rubber strips on my rims- don't weigh much extra and I have seen the strips get pushed a bit out of place by inept (that would be me) tire installation.

I did have two strips on the rim. I found the leak in the first tube - it looks as though it was the sharp edge of one of the spoke screws, probably helped by low pressure and a hefty bump from a pothole or washboard.  We live and learn (slowly, though but!).

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Re: I should have used spruce, not jack pine (NF woes- continued)
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2015, 03:22:26 PM »
Very resourceful! :thumb:

Also would explain those beavers chasing you!  :boozing:
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Re: I should have used spruce, not jack pine (NF woes- continued)
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2015, 03:26:46 PM »
Well Done!!

I have had protruding spokes wear through a tube, I now run a thick rubber sealing tape, looks like electricians tape but much, much thicker around the laced rim and then a rubber rim band.

Maybe I have rocks in my head but I wonder if anyone has stuffed a tire with small pebbles / sand?
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Re: I should have used spruce, not jack pine (NF woes- continued)
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2015, 03:27:15 PM »
Quote from: nick949 on July 28, 2015, 02:39:32 PM
I did have two strips on the rim. I found the leak in the first tube - it looks as though it was the sharp edge of one of the spoke screws, probably helped by low pressure and a hefty bump from a pothole or washboard.  We live and learn (slowly, though but!).

Nick

Maybe something like this would be better than conventional rubber rim strips?

http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/11-0062/
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Re: I should have used spruce, not jack pine (NF woes- continued)
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2015, 04:11:57 PM »
I did that once with bunch grass back in 76 in the Cascade mountains in Oregon.  It got me 25 miles to home.
 The tube was toast and the tire ruined but no rim damage.
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Re: I should have used spruce, not jack pine (NF woes- continued)
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2015, 04:20:44 PM »
Quote from: canuck750 on July 28, 2015, 03:26:46 PM
Well Done!!

I have had protruding spokes wear through a tube, I now run a thick rubber sealing tape, looks like electricians tape but much, much thicker around the laced rim and then a rubber rim band.

Maybe I have rocks in my head but I wonder if anyone has stuffed a tire with small pebbles / sand?

I think the biggest problem is getting enough stuff into the void. I kept jamming brush in until I just couldn't get any more in, but it wasn't enough to give support to the tyre walls - especially with my extra 20 litres of fuel and camping gear all sitting over the back wheel.

Anyway, I long ago realised that whatever I anticipate will not be the problem. If I'd had my puncture kit and pump, then the chain would have broken because I didn't have a spare split link, or I would have had the wrong clutch cable, or, or .................

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Re: I should have used spruce, not jack pine (NF woes- continued)
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2015, 06:51:26 PM »
The only time I stuffed a tire it was with dirt and sand.  There was a rip in the tire about 1.5".  I put duc tape over the rip and stuffed it as full as I could while still getting the bead back on.  Then I added air and spun the tire to distribute the dirt better.  It lost the air almost immediately, but the fix held until I could get into Terrace, BC and replace it.  It was a stiff and squshy ride.
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Re: I should have used spruce, not jack pine (NF woes- continued)
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2015, 08:41:23 PM »
 35 years ago in a cartoon in Easy Riders magazine, a rider  grabbed a fat rattlesnake and wrapped it around the rim and shoved its' tail down its throat and hit it on the head to staple its' fangs to hold it together. Then he rode on.
 Imagination is a wonderful thing.
 
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