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Offline Viker

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Stelvio first service questions
« on: August 03, 2015, 07:14:01 AM »
I've just had the first service completed on my awesome new 2014 Stelvio, and I'm left with a few questions...

Firstly, the gear shift indicator is still set at 6500. I expected it would have been raised. Should I just raise it myself? Or does the bike raise the threshold itself after it has some more kms under the wheels?

The resonant throb between 3700 & 4100 revs is much better, but not gone. Does that suggest that the throttle body sync is not quite right?

I have the cables for GuzziDiag, and I'm keen smooth the response at small throttle openings and around 4000 rpm. Is it ok to meddle with the bike while it's so new, or is it wiser to run it in more first.

I'm grateful for any insights!

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Re: Stelvio first service questions
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2015, 07:33:18 AM »

Firstly, the gear shift indicator is still set at 6500. I expected it would have been raised. Should I just raise it myself? Or does the bike raise the threshold itself after it has some more kms under the wheels?


I have a 2009, but I doubt that even the 2014 is smart enough or has the initiative and ambition to raise the shift indication number by itself  :wink: .

I raised my own to 7500 once I had a few miles on it ....

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Re: Stelvio first service questions
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2015, 08:11:16 AM »
Yeah, I didn't expect it to, but what do I know? :-)

Is 7500 the proper setting?

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Re: Stelvio first service questions
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2015, 08:54:47 AM »
Yeah, I didn't expect it to, but what do I know? :-)

Is 7500 the proper setting?

Someone else will have to answer up for the maximum spec.

I simply used my innate but possibly stunted "Mechanical Sympathy" to decide where the engine sounded happy but not distressed, plus I don't need any more stomp than what the 8-valver is supplying at that rate ....

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Re: Stelvio first service questions
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2015, 09:29:28 AM »
Set the blinking REV LED to whatever level you want. I Think I have mine at about 7000.

The resonant throb between 3700 & 4100 revs is much better, but not gone. Does that suggest that the throttle body sync is not quite right?

Is this a vibration in the handlebars? Do you have the US mirrors with the turn signals in them? If so, do yourself a favor and convert to the turns signals in the fairing and eliminate a lot of the handlebar vibration.
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Re: Stelvio first service questions
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2015, 10:01:31 AM »
The dealer didn't raise the limit...you can do this easily yourself through the dash menus with service code

The throttle sync is best done at the RPM you wish to be non-vibey. This will get better with miles, but it can't hurt to re-sync at your preferred RPM. GuzziDiag is needed. You can do this yourself with a home made manometer. I have not posted this to my blog page yet, but will this fall.

Do you have the Aux lamps fused? This is a very good idea. Plug and play here: https://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=75471
Why it's needed: http://stelviontx.blogspot.com/2013/05/fog-lamp-fuse-holder.html

How about the Euro turn signal conversion?: http://stelviontx.blogspot.com/2013/04/euro-turn-signal-conversion.html

The same blog has some other tasty bits- rear luggage bag, more tie town bobbins, GPS install, Powerlet sockets, horn upgrade, rear rack (AF1 sells this), windshield extender, bag liners for the side cases, replacement locks for the cases, etc...




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Re: Stelvio first service questions
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2015, 10:09:45 AM »
Yeah, I didn't expect it to, but what do I know? :-)

Is 7500 the proper setting?

Take the back and get what you paid for?  Make the dealer accountable for doing the job poorly. Make a list of everything not right and make them put things in order. They now owe you something for wasted time, fuel and so on. That means they should do it right and the service manager should sign off on the service.

Don't correct what you paid someone else to do. Be courteous but let them know you are dissatisfied and won't tolerate the 3 Ps.

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Re: Stelvio first service questions
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2015, 12:17:39 PM »
Take the back and get what you paid for?  Make the dealer accountable for doing the job poorly. Make a list of everything not right and make them put things in order. They now owe you something for wasted time, fuel and so on. That means they should do it right and the service manager should sign off on the service.

Don't correct what you paid someone else to do. Be courteous but let them know you are dissatisfied and won't tolerate the 3 Ps.

My first Stelvio's first service was performed by a dealer. He printed off the Guzzi check list...that wasn't on the one that I saw.

I did all my service from that point on.

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Re: Stelvio first service questions
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2015, 08:18:33 AM »
Thanks for all the responses. This is an Australian bike, so no issues with US turn signals.

I can spend a minute pressing buttons and set the shift LED, there's no point wasting my time to ride over to the dealer to watch him press buttons. it may or may not be worth having the thrum looked at, that's why I'm wondering if it's normal at this stage of the bike's life, or normal with the factory mapping? It is felt though the bars. Ever seen & heard a taut rope in the wind? At a certain range of wind speeds it will take up a thrum. This reminds me of that. It was quite noticeable before the service, now it's still there, a bit. But I didn't know if it's anything wrong.

I haven't done the aux lamp fuses yet, and so I'm avoiding using them. Stelvio already pushes out a lot more photons than my previous bike, so this hasn't been urgent for me.

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Re: Stelvio first service questions
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2015, 09:06:54 AM »
Thanks for all the responses. This is an Australian bike, so no issues with US turn signals.

I can spend a minute pressing buttons and set the shift LED, there's no point wasting my time to ride over to the dealer to watch him press buttons. it may or may not be worth having the thrum looked at, that's why I'm wondering if it's normal at this stage of the bike's life, or normal with the factory mapping? It is felt though the bars. Ever seen & heard a taut rope in the wind? At a certain range of wind speeds it will take up a thrum. This reminds me of that. It was quite noticeable before the service, now it's still there, a bit. But I didn't know if it's anything wrong.

I haven't done the aux lamp fuses yet, and so I'm avoiding using them. Stelvio already pushes out a lot more photons than my previous bike, so this hasn't been urgent for me.

If you are not going to do the fuses, at least dig the boot off the rear of the Hellas and dress the wires so that they don't chaff thru and short. 

I chose also to relocate mine up under the front of the fairing.  No more harmonic vibes to pop the H3 element.
And where they used to be mounted, I used some cheap 10W LED spot lamps (Amazon) that I use as DRLs.  People really see me now!

Note that I had a very strange harmonic at 38 to 40 MPH in fourth gear only.  This was about 3000 rpm.  just puttering along lightly on flat roads.  Most noticeable in right rear foot peg!   Had the shop look at it because it was under warranty (had some other issues, too)...Believe it or not, it turned out to be the front tire, close to EOL, at 10K miles.  Still had tread, but it was pretty scalloped. Rear tire was very shot, so I just did the pair. Harmonic is totally gone. 
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