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Re: Worst TV show ever
« Reply #90 on: October 21, 2015, 03:49:26 AM »
The shows I watched in the 60s and early 70s were all great.  I guess that means that I wasn't much of a critic then.  Three's Company was the first show (I think late 70s) that I remember thinking that this wasn't watching TV for.  I must have watched too much TV. Three's Company was terrible because it was just trying to be edgy (sexy?) in a lame way for me.

Now, don't have TV, don't watch TV except ordering through Netflix.  But when at a hotel, a deep recess of my brain says TURN IT ON and I'm left mesmerized by the bright lights and loud sounds and weird goings on. (Can you believe TLC stands for The Learning Channel? I heard Elijah Daniel say that the letters now stand for Toddlers, Lunatics, and Cake.) In my distorted memory and perception, everything from the 60s was much better than anything you will randomly get turning on a TV now but when I think about it, the BEST TV now is the best TV ever by far if you include the HBO and AMC shows.
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Re: Worst TV show ever
« Reply #91 on: October 21, 2015, 05:19:35 AM »
Taxi and Hogan's Heros were both funny, they were satire not unlike MASH taking a bad situation and looking for the humor in it. HH in particular probably had a cathartic effect and represented maybe a point in history where we began to nice past the collective memory of hate. Kinda like a discussion I've recently had on when in popular culture were the Japanese accepted again in our society and how their products went from crap that we hated to quality of which we can't seem to buy enough.

Three's Company was another one I liked as a kid. Dumb, but amusing. Now here's a trippy note. John Ritter is currently the voice of Clifford The Big Red Dog on the PBS Children's Show of that name.
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Re: Worst TV show ever
« Reply #92 on: October 21, 2015, 05:45:37 AM »
Taxi and Hogan's Heros were both funny, they were satire not unlike MASH taking a bad situation and looking for the humor in it. HH in particular probably had a cathartic effect and represented maybe a point in history where we began to nice past the collective memory of hate. Kinda like a discussion I've recently had on when in popular culture were the Japanese accepted again in our society and how their products went from crap that we hated to quality of which we can't seem to buy enough.

Three's Company was another one I liked as a kid. Dumb, but amusing. Now here's a trippy note. John Ritter is currently the voice of Clifford The Big Red Dog on the PBS Children's Show of that name.


Isn't John Ritter dead?


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Re: Worst TV show ever
« Reply #93 on: October 21, 2015, 06:43:40 AM »
 We don't have cable or dish ...my wife likes to watch the old shows on the low buck stations...I never cared much  for TV but some of the old shows are interesting at a glance ....A few were quite "tense" with shadows , sweaty foreheads and disreputable characters..But most were simple themes with predictable humor and ended with proper moral lessons.....

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Re: Worst TV show ever
« Reply #94 on: October 21, 2015, 06:47:04 AM »

Isn't John Ritter dead?


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Yeah, sorry, badly phrased. One of the things he did later in life was record the voice for the PBS Children's Show Clifford The Big Red Dog and that is CURRENTLY being shown daily on PBS Kids.

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Re: Worst TV show ever
« Reply #95 on: October 21, 2015, 06:50:03 AM »
We don't have cable or dish ...my wife likes to watch the old shows on the low buck stations...I never cared much  for TV but some of the old shows are interesting at a glance ....A few were quite "tense" with shadows , sweaty foreheads and disreputable characters..But most were simple themes with predictable humor and ended with proper moral lessons.....

One thing that has changed dramatically from the 60's and 70's is the "simple themes with predictable humor".

There are more shows like BSG (the SyFy/NBC BattleStar Galactica remake) or Game of Thrones etc. that have far more complicated plots and themes, and raise more complicated moral questions.
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Re: Worst TV show ever
« Reply #96 on: October 21, 2015, 07:45:31 AM »
One thing that has changed dramatically from the 60's and 70's is the "simple themes with predictable humor".

There are more shows like BSG (the SyFy/NBC BattleStar Galactica remake) or Game of Thrones etc. that have far more complicated plots and themes, and raise more complicated moral questions.

 Game of Thrones... I understand the sex and violence but need my wife to explain who is who and the complicated plots...In the evening our TV is Netflix or Amazon ...Gratuitous sex, violence and profanity...

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Re: Worst TV show ever
« Reply #97 on: October 21, 2015, 08:28:12 AM »
In a previous post I mentioned the old Wyatt Earp TV series being the worst of the westerns. Not because of western accuracy but because of the story lines, dark emotions and characters and the number of actors that later became famous I have always enjoyed "Gunsmoke".
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Re: Worst TV show ever
« Reply #98 on: October 21, 2015, 08:51:52 AM »
Taxi and Hogan's Heros were both funny, they were satire not unlike MASH taking a bad situation and looking for the humor in it. HH in particular probably had a cathartic effect and represented maybe a point in history where we began to nice past the collective memory of hate. Kinda like a discussion I've recently had on when in popular culture were the Japanese accepted again in our society and how their products went from crap that we hated to quality of which we can't seem to buy enough.

Three's Company was another one I liked as a kid. Dumb, but amusing. Now here's a trippy note. John Ritter is currently the voice of Clifford The Big Red Dog on the PBS Children's Show of that name.

Some of the cast of Hogan's Heroes were holocaust survivors, I found it interesting they could still have a sense of humor about the Nazis.
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Re: Worst TV show ever
« Reply #99 on: October 21, 2015, 09:00:41 AM »
Some of the cast of Hogan's Heroes were holocaust survivors, I found it interesting they could still have a sense of humor about the Nazis.


I did not know that, but that's excellent trivia and puts a lot of the minutia we bitch about with our first world problems in perspective.

Maybe the fact that the Nazis portrayed in the show were made to look like bumbling idiots constantly helped.

Or maybe they had moved on (as much as one ever does).

Like the Auschwitz survivor (woman, twin, her and her sister were experimented on my Mengele) who recently testified at a guard's trial and asked the jury NOT to jail him (but to give him community service talking about the camp), and also reportedly hugged and forgave him.

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Re: Worst TV show ever
« Reply #100 on: October 21, 2015, 09:20:28 AM »
How can Baywatch be omitted from the lot???
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Re: Worst TV show ever
« Reply #101 on: October 21, 2015, 09:22:06 AM »

I did not know that, but that's excellent trivia and puts a lot of the minutia we bitch about with our first world problems in perspective.

Maybe the fact that the Nazis portrayed in the show were made to look like bumbling idiots constantly helped.

Or maybe they had moved on (as much as one ever does).

Like the Auschwitz survivor (woman, twin, her and her sister were experimented on my Mengele) who recently testified at a guard's trial and asked the jury NOT to jail him (but to give him community service talking about the camp), and also reportedly hugged and forgave him.

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Re: Worst TV show ever
« Reply #102 on: October 21, 2015, 10:29:24 AM »
My mother and her friends used to watch "The Golden Girls".  The oldest one used to recite some non-clever wise crack and then look into the studio audience for a reaction.  Maybe that show gets my vote.
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Re: Worst TV show ever
« Reply #103 on: October 21, 2015, 10:50:11 AM »
My mother and her friends used to watch "The Golden Girls".  The oldest one used to recite some non-clever wise crack and then look into the studio audience for a reaction.  Maybe that show gets my vote.

The oldest one, Estelle Getty, was actually the youngest cast member.

Beatrice Arthur, was a Marine in WW2.

I still like Betty White, not really pretentious, just good at acting that way....

The Wikipedia site for Hogans Heroes, the Jewish actors entry is interesting.....

...but hey it's all just T.V.  ( is that even a word anymore?)


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Re: Worst TV show ever
« Reply #104 on: October 21, 2015, 11:31:44 AM »
In a previous post I mentioned the old Wyatt Earp TV series being the worst of the westerns. Not because of western accuracy but because of the story lines, dark emotions and characters and the number of actors that later became famous I have always enjoyed "Gunsmoke".
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« Reply #105 on: October 21, 2015, 11:32:49 AM »

I did not know that, but that's excellent trivia and puts a lot of the minutia we bitch about with our first world problems in perspective.

Maybe the fact that the Nazis portrayed in the show were made to look like bumbling idiots constantly helped.
 

Corporal Louis LeBeau (portrayed by Robert Clary)
Robert Clary is a French Jew who was in the Nazi concentration camps Ottmuth and Buchenwald and still has his serial number tattooed on his arm. Clary is the last surviving original Hogan's Heroes cast member.

Jewish actors
The actors who played the four major German roles—Werner Klemperer (Klink),[60] John Banner (Schultz), Leon Askin (Burkhalter), and Howard Caine (Hochstetter)—were Jewish. Furthermore, Klemperer, Banner, Askin, and Robert Clary (LeBeau) were Jews who had fled the Nazis during World War II. Clary says in the recorded commentary on the DVD version of episode "Art for Hogan's Sake" that he spent three years in a concentration camp, that his parents and other family members were killed there, and that he has an identity tattoo from the camp on his arm ("A-5714"). Likewise John Banner had been held in a (pre-war) concentration camp and his family was killed during the war. Leon Askin was also in a pre-war French internment camp and his parents were killed at Treblinka. Howard Caine (Hochstetter), who was also Jewish (his birth name was Cohen), was American, and Jewish actors Harold Gould and Harold J. Stone played German generals; Jon Cedar played a camp guard.


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Re: Worst TV show ever
« Reply #106 on: October 21, 2015, 11:34:26 AM »
Corporal Louis LeBeau (portrayed by Robert Clary)
Robert Clary is a French Jew who was in the Nazi concentration camps Ottmuth and Buchenwald and still has his serial number tattooed on his arm. Clary is the last surviving original Hogan's Heroes cast member.

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Hey Rocker, what state is Bugtussell in anyway?
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Re: Worst TV show ever
« Reply #107 on: October 21, 2015, 11:47:51 AM »
Hey Rocker, what state is Bugtussell in anyway?

I know several States want to claim The Beverly Hillbillies, but they were from Arkansas...
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« Reply #108 on: October 21, 2015, 12:38:14 PM »
I heard that now  that Joe Biden isn't running for President, they want to make him "Uncle Joe" in a new version of petticoat Junction!
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« Reply #109 on: October 21, 2015, 12:48:13 PM »
I heard that now  that Joe Biden isn't running for President, they want to make him "Uncle Joe" in a new version of petticoat Junction!

He's a movin' kinda slow, @ the junction........... ...
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« Reply #110 on: October 21, 2015, 12:52:15 PM »
I know several States want to claim The Beverly Hillbillies, but they were from Arkansas...

I don't know man, granny hails from Tennessee in some episodes. Sometimes they claim to go back home and go to silver dollar city, close to Arkansas but not quite. Nobody ever struck oil in either state that I know of.
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« Reply #111 on: October 21, 2015, 01:08:05 PM »
Hey Rocker, what state is Bugtussell in anyway?

I know several States want to claim The Beverly Hillbillies, but they were from Arkansas...

 Bug Tussle is actually in Oklahoma . We certainly had an interesting discussion re the BH's at CV  :shocked: :laugh:

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« Reply #112 on: October 21, 2015, 01:12:47 PM »
Jewish actors

 Jewish actors in Hollywood? Who woulda thought that?   :grin:

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« Reply #114 on: October 21, 2015, 01:33:14 PM »
I don't know man, granny hails from Tennessee in some episodes. Sometimes they claim to go back home and go to silver dollar city, close to Arkansas but not quite. Nobody ever struck oil in either state that I know of.

Yes.  She's Jed's mother-in-law who came to Arkansas to live with Jed to help with the young-uns.
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Re: Worst TV show ever
« Reply #116 on: October 21, 2015, 01:45:12 PM »
They've got Bug Tussles in Oklahoma, Missouri, Tennessee, and Kentucky...

But, the "Bug Tussle" of the show was in North Arkansas near Oxford and Timbo.  Not far from Eureka Springs.

You know, down where  the Ox fords the river?  Oxford Arkansas.

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« Reply #117 on: October 21, 2015, 01:51:51 PM »
They've got Bug Tussles in Oklahoma, Missouri, Tennessee, and Kentucky...

But, the "Bug Tussle" of the show was in North Arkansas near Oxford and Timbo.  Not far from Eureka Springs.

You know, down where  the Ox fords the river?  Oxford Arkansas.

 Well of course  :laugh: The thing to remember , probably none of the folks involved in the show ever set foot out here in our part of the country , or the Hillbillies would have been from Eastern OK where there are hills AND oil  :rolleyes:

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« Reply #118 on: October 21, 2015, 01:59:19 PM »
Uh.......Dusty, you should work on your Beverly Hillbillies' trivia a bit. There were a few episodes filmed @ Silver Dollar City (Branson Mo.) Also starring talented actors like Shorty Kellums and Granny's arch nemesis Elverna Bradshaw.
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« Reply #119 on: October 21, 2015, 02:03:11 PM »
Uh.......Dusty, you should work on your Beverly Hillbillies' trivia a bit. There were a few episodes filmed @ Silver Dollar City (Branson Mo.) Also starring talented actors like Shorty Kellums and Granny's arch nemesis Elverna Bradshaw.

 Well dangit , that important piece of cultural history slipped right past me  :grin:

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