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http://www.triumphmotorcycles.com/Bonneville-Event?from=HPR#

It doesn't say much, except the Oct 28 date should tell the tale.

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Re: Just received email from Triumph - has to be teaser for new Big Bonnie
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2015, 12:39:06 PM »
Got the email too, looks like a big bore scrambler style on the way, maybe based on their big triple. Whatever it is, their current engines are the hot lick.

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Re: Just received email from Triumph - has to be teaser for new Big Bonnie
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2015, 12:44:44 PM »
I likey but do I have to get a haircut like that? Way to go triumph!
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Re: Just received email from Triumph - has to be teaser for new Big Bonnie
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2015, 01:04:06 PM »
I, too, received the email. I am really excited to see the new Triumph Modern Classics, especially the new Thruxton/Street Tracker R.

I have the itch for another cafe racer, but I am not keen on the current US V7 II Racer. I much prefer the version that most of the rest of the world gets (though I have been considering getting a basic V7 II Stone and then removing and adding about $2,000 worth of bits...).
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Re: Just received email from Triumph - has to be teaser for new Big Bonnie
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2015, 01:47:19 PM »
How much could it cost to build a tank without the ugly flange/seam on the bottom. Would not be so bad on a $4K budget bike; but awful in this segment IMHO!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Just received email from Triumph - has to be teaser for new Big Bonnie
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2015, 01:56:51 PM »
The Radiator in front of the cylinders is unfortunate...Alan

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Re: Just received email from Triumph - has to be teaser for new Big Bonnie
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2015, 03:16:37 PM »
How much could it cost to build a tank without the ugly flange/seam on the bottom. Would not be so bad on a $4K budget bike; but awful in this segment IMHO!!!!!!!!!!
Did the Triumphs from the 1960s/70s have a flange on their tanks?  I truly cannot remember.  I'm thinking my BSA Spitfire Scrambler (A10 version) was flanged, but wouldn't bet money on it.
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Re: Just received email from Triumph - has to be teaser for new Big Bonnie
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2015, 03:50:50 PM »
http://www.triumphmotorcycles.com/Bonneville-Event?from=HPR#

It doesn't say much, except the Oct 28 date should tell the tale.

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The V12 Stone is the answer.

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Re: Just received email from Triumph - has to be teaser for new Big Bonnie
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2015, 04:25:08 PM »
Did the Triumphs from the 1960s/70s have a flange on their tanks?  I truly cannot remember.  I'm thinking my BSA Spitfire Scrambler (A10 version) was flanged, but wouldn't bet money on it.

They did not have a flange and this is a rub to a lot of folks. I know a guy who took a hammer and beat the flange down.
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Re: Just received email from Triumph - has to be teaser for new Big Bonnie
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2015, 05:33:07 PM »
Thanks for the memory refresh re flange/no flange on the fuel tank.

I haven't priced new 865 Bonnies (T100) recently, but I'm guessing they're hitting the mid-$8000 range, maybe a bit more (?)

Any guesses or published info on what the big Bonnie might have as a USA sticker price?  I'm thinking $10-11k range.

I am totally certain that the new Brit twin will have it all over the Honda CB1100 re looks, 'soul' and 'character.'  However, I'm starting to shop Cycle Trader for good prices on leftover 2014 CBs, and find the low end in the high $6k range, though most discounted 2014s are closer to $8500, approx. $2000 off of MSRP.  To my way of thinking, that's a lot of bike for not a lot of cash.  Of course, that's the std version without ABS.  But still ......

I've talked this through with Dusty who has taken me through the exercise of 'how long have you kept twins vs 4 cyl bikes' etc, and he may be right.  The CB might be plain damn boring.  However, after watching several video ride reviews of the bike, I find I'm somewhat drawn to the familiar sound of the whining Honda 45+ years after the first 'big' CB hit the streets.  I think the quality is there, as is fit and finish.

In closing, I may have to give one of these orphans a try.  I think Honda put their best effort into the bike.  It simply wasn't retro enough for many (including me, but I'll overlook that.)

It will be hard to get away from 'what kind of bike is that ..... who makes it, etc, etc.'  Likewise hard to get away from the sweet big block sound and feel of the 1200 Sport (oh, wait ....... I'm keeping that bike!)  So when I need the Guzzi fix, it'll be there.  For those other rides, there's the old GS, and hopefully, a Honda I admire for it's many attributes, if not for its soul and character.
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Re: Just received email from Triumph - has to be teaser for new Big Bonnie
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2015, 12:38:17 AM »
I mentioned earlier that my local Triumph dealer says the 865 motor is a thing of the past. It won't past the new Euro EPA specs so the 1100 liquid cooled motor is next up for bonneville and all new euro bikes will have ABS as standard equipment so we'll get them too.
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Re: Just received email from Triumph - has to be teaser for new Big Bonnie
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2015, 05:54:45 AM »
Much nicer than predicted.

I might be softening my stance against water-cooled bikes.

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Re: Just received email from Triumph - has to be teaser for new Big Bonnie
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2015, 09:03:43 AM »
They did not have a flange and this is a rub to a lot of folks. I know a guy who took a hammer and beat the flange down.

 So he quite literally beat the flange off it  :huh:

 I hate to say this , that action is gonna cause the joint to break and will cause problems down the road , maybe not today , maybe not tomorrow ...

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Re: Just received email from Triumph - has to be teaser for new Big Bonnie
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2015, 09:05:24 AM »
^^^^ Absolutely.
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Re: Just received email from Triumph - has to be teaser for new Big Bonnie
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2015, 02:40:40 PM »
I know that the "buying world" is probably interested, but I don't think we need any more "big" anythings.

We've already supersized the motorcycle world into huge unwieldy gas-hog bikes ... I'm kind of hoping it'll tend the other way ....

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Re: Just received email from Triumph - has to be teaser for new Big Bonnie
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2015, 03:01:43 PM »
I know that the "buying world" is probably interested, but I don't think we need any more "big" anythings.

We've already supersized the motorcycle world into huge unwieldy gas-hog bikes ... I'm kind of hoping it'll tend the other way ....

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Those little 250-500 cc scooters are fast and handle good....plenty of aftermarket stuff to help improve both....Alan

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Re: Just received email from Triumph - has to be teaser for new Big Bonnie
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2015, 03:09:11 PM »
The seat looks like a thrill a minute. Reminds me of the one that came on the Benelli Sei.

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Re: Just received email from Triumph - has to be teaser for new Big Bonnie
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2015, 03:14:14 PM »
They have but label them as starter bikes


I know.   That's how I know that the Marketeers are working on the part of the American Male Psyche that really sells motorcycles.

"These REAL BIG expensive bikes are what a REAL MAN buys.   These little 500cc, 750cc, 900cc bikes are what Girls and guys with Small Private Parts buy!   Get one if you're one of those, but graduate quick to a BIG BIKE!"

Some new buyers that I know practically quote these words .... I know where they got them ....

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Re: Just received email from Triumph - has to be teaser for new Big Bonnie
« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2015, 08:58:38 PM »
Time to start saving my pennies for the new Thruxton R...



THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Depending on what the price is, the V7 Racer is in trouble.

Of course, there is that pesky chain to clean & lube, but, damn, I could overlook it on this bike!
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Re: Just received email from Triumph - has to be teaser for new Big Bonnie
« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2015, 09:21:10 PM »
THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 :drool:

Depending on what the price is, the V7 Racer is in trouble.

Of course, there is that pesky chain to clean & lube, but, damn, I could overlook it on this bike!

Follow my plan, you'll have shafts or belts on half your fleet, chains on the rest.  :thumb:
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Re: Just received email from Triumph - has to be teaser for new Big Bonnie
« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2015, 09:26:58 PM »
Chain on my STRX needs cleaning and a lube job...hence bike has sat a month...waiting for rear lift, and spindles to arrive, and need to buy cleaner and take the time...but we will get there.  Probably this weekend.

That Thrux is an eye popper, but give me a 400 pound bike anytime....

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Re: Just received email from Triumph - has to be teaser for new Big Bonnie
« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2015, 09:50:09 PM »
Really, dealing with a chain is that much of a big deal? Don't abuse them, they rarely break, lube once in a while and they will go a very long time with little fuss. No leaking seals ( seems like everyone gets at least one).

Chain maintenance is way overblown. Yeah, plenty of stories about someone who had a chain break. Never had one break, never knew anyone who did either.

Top quality does wonders for chain longevity. Cleaning and lubing a chain takes only a couple minutes, if that.
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« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2015, 09:55:40 PM »
THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 :drool:

Depending on what the price is, the V7 Racer is in trouble.

Of course, there is that pesky chain to clean & lube, but, damn, I could overlook it on this bike!

They will sell all they make and probably not have leftovers.

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Re: Just received email from Triumph - has to be teaser for new Big Bonnie
« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2015, 10:04:30 PM »
Beautiful bike. Wonderful torque, but I bet if these bikes came onto the scene a few years earlier they would really sell quick.  Hell, they'll sell quick anyways

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Re: Just received email from Triumph - has to be teaser for new Big Bonnie
« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2015, 04:57:40 AM »
That Thrux is an eye popper, but give me a 400 pound bike anytime....

I've got two, Duc Monster 796, V7R.

As for the Thruxton, I'll have to ride one to decide.    Hopefully, I won't like it.

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Re: Just received email from Triumph - has to be teaser for new Big Bonnie
« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2015, 05:28:51 AM »
Brings a tear of pride to all Englishmen. Pity our steel industry is at the point of collapse and the Chinese will probably finish up supplying Triumph in the future.

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Re: Just received email from Triumph - has to be teaser for new Big Bonnie
« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2015, 06:11:38 AM »
The Thruxton does look tremendous.

But I'd probably wind up going for this:



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« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2015, 06:19:02 AM »
Wow.  Just wow.  These are ridiculously stunning bikes, finished with touches and on a level that I personally did not think Triumph was even capable of per se - and this from a giant Triumph fan.  They remind me a small bit of the Ducati Sport Classic line of which I used to own a GT1000, only better, in fact.  Wow.  Just wow.










 


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