Everybody seems to get retired. Am I the only one below 30? :)

[groundhog105]

Hey Rob
      I have been on the aprilia forum since 2002.  In the last couple years since they picked up Guzzi they have become more active in the Guzzi section and they are definitely a younger crowd, but if you think these guys hurt your feelings then you probably won't be happy at AF1. This forum is also more experienced with the pre piaggio Guzzi where AF1 is good with the newer Guzzi.
       For motorcycle enthusiast I don't see age as an issue, it's more about the love of the machine and being a gear head.  So don't wear your feelings on your sleeve and you will enjoy and benifit from the knowledge that these guys have.

[rocker59]

Dusty, to his credit, knows exactly what I'm talking about. Read the fifth post in this thread: http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=80381.0

Just back from finding it:  "He's an ex schoolmaster of questionable orientation, definitely a bully which I find contradictory."

If you find this offensive, you either have very thin skin, or are looking to be offended.

Political Orientation?
Ideological Orientation?
Sexual Orientation?

Who knows?  Who cares?  Don't go looking to be offended on the internet.  You won't get far.  And this is about the tamest moto forum I can think of.

Earlier I recommended ADVrider.  I withdraw that recommendation.  You'll be offended.  Especially here:  http://advrider.com/index.php?forums/church-state-money.49/

[kirby1923]

Just back from finding it:  "He's an ex schoolmaster of questionable orientation, definitely a bully which I find contradictory."

If you find this offensive, you either have very thin skin, or are looking to be offended.

Political Orientation?
Ideological Orientation?
Sexual Orientation?

Who knows?  Who cares?  Don't go looking to be offended on the internet.  You won't get far.  And this is about the tamest moto forum I can think of.

Earlier I recommended ADVrider.  I withdraw that recommendation.  You'll be offended.  Especially here:  http://advrider.com/index.php?forums/church-state-money.49/

A great response Rocker and right on the mark!

Those offended step back and take a deep breath Good grief! 

mike

[Tom]

This thread is pretty funneeeeee!!!!! 

[motoTommaso]

IMHO the diversity of an organization (like this forum) is a strength rather than a weakness.  It is a good thing that the V7 and the popularity of cafe racers has attracted some younger blood to the Marque.

As a nooby here, I find this place pretty civilized and helpful.  If your feelings are bruised here, then ADVrider is not for you.

If the crotchety old men have a point of view that you take issue with, make your case in a well considered, respectful manner.  If you meet with derision and rudeness (which I doubt) then find a forum to your liking.

Tommaso

[Triple Jim]

And this is about the tamest moto forum I can think of.

Earlier I recommended ADVrider.  I withdraw that recommendation.  You'll be offended.  Especially here:  http://advrider.com/index.php?forums/church-state-money.49/

Darn, I wanted to read it, but I have to be a member. 

Rocker, this is a great board, with a large membership, but smaller boards I frequent that are about the Kawasaki triples have a noticeably friendlier atmosphere in general.  When I joined here, I was a little surprised at the willingness of some guys to throw an insult or two at fellow members occasionally, or maybe more than occasionally.  Nothing overly hurtful, but things like "that's a dumb thing to say", for example.  It helps a lot when posting to envision a real person at the receiving end, and word the post as if you're face to face with him.

[kirby1923]

Unless you have been around motorcycles for awhile? (in the USA) you probably never have even heard of a Moto Guzzi. I had my first  in the EU and I was in my 40's but there are many Guzzi's seen in that area of the world.

So when younger people(USA) begin looking into ownership of a moto I am afraid  Guzzis are pretty much invisible. In the last 2 years I have had only one or maybe two people that had any idea of what I was riding while on trips across country.

Is that a bad thing?? I don't think so but it tends to draw the more seasoned group of riders which I like to think of as enthusiast's not just riders. It is sometimes a long journey to arrive at that level so we tend to be a "mature" bunch.

I may be older but I am just as enthusiastic about riding as I was in my 20s'and still willing to toe the mark for the experience, even with rear sets and clip-ons.

As to getting the younger crowd involved in Guzzi I think we already have, look around at your next NAR they are all around you. 

:-)

[oldbike54]

Darn, I wanted to read it, but I have to be a member. 

Rocker, this is a great board, with a large membership, but smaller boards I frequent that are about the Kawasaki triples have a noticeably friendlier atmosphere in general.  When I joined here, I was a little surprised at the willingness of some guys to throw an insult or two at fellow members occasionally, or maybe more than occasionally.  Nothing overly hurtful, but things like "that's a dumb thing to say", for example.  It helps a lot when posting to envision a real person at the receiving end, and word the post as if you're face to face with him.

 Yeah , if you wouldn't say it to someone's face around a campfire ...Of course we are all capable of a temporary lapse of decorum , but most of us catch ourselves before any real trouble .

  Dusty

[oldbike54]

Unless you have been around motorcycles for awhile? (in the USA) you probably never have even heard of a Moto Guzzi. I had my first  in the EU and I was in my 40's but there are many Guzzi's seen in that area of the world.

So when younger people(USA) begin looking into ownership of a moto I am afraid  Guzzis are pretty much invisible. In the last 2 years I have had only one or maybe two people that had any idea of what I was riding while on trips across country.

Is that a bad thing?? I don't think so but it tends to draw the more seasoned group of riders which I like to think of as enthusiast's not just riders. It is sometimes a long journey to arrive at that level so we tend to be a "mature" bunch.

I may be older but I am just as enthusiastic about riding as I was in my 20s'and still willing to toe the mark for the experience, even with rear sets and clip-ons.

As to getting the younger crowd involved in Guzzi I think we already have, look around at your next NAR they are all around you. 

:-)

 I am also just as enthusiastic in my dotage , maybe even more so than years ago . Could have something to do with recognizing mortality , dunno .

 We do in fact encourage younger riders and potential riders to attend our little NAR's , most of us are really kids at heart , despite the gray beards  Often hard enticing youngsters into a weekend sleeping on the ground , or into enjoying a good camp fire discussion , although I will bet many would find us more interesting and cool than they previously believed .
 
  Dusty

[rocker59]

Yeah , if you wouldn't say it to someone's face around a campfire ...Of course we are all capable of a temporary lapse of decorum , but most of us catch ourselves before any real trouble .

  Dusty

The unfortunate truth of the written (or typed) word is that tone and inflection and intent can me misunderstood.  Especially jokes and sarcasm.  It helps to know the person you're conversing with.  Unfortunately, new members and members halfway around the world don't have that luxury.

[Cool Runnings]

Remember these? 

[Cool Runnings]

Remember that guy? 

[oldbike54]

Remember these? 

 The Munch Mamout . So... you're saying that makes me old ?

  Dusty

[Cool Runnings]

The Munch Mamout . So... you're saying that makes me old ?

  Dusty

Like a fine wine..........

[Cool Runnings]

 

[oldbike54]

Like a fine wine..........

 Tell my GF that 

  Dusty

[Chuck in Indiana]

Darn, I wanted to read it, but I have to be a member. 

Rocker, this is a great board, with a large membership, but smaller boards I frequent that are about the Kawasaki triples have a noticeably friendlier atmosphere in general.  When I joined here, I was a little surprised at the willingness of some guys to throw an insult or two at fellow members occasionally, or maybe more than occasionally.  Nothing overly hurtful, but things like "that's a dumb thing to say", for example.  It helps a lot when posting to envision a real person at the receiving end, and word the post as if you're face to face with him.

Jim.. some of us on the board are very good friends indeed, and gouge each other unmercifully. If someone new to the board saw some of those, they'd think we were having an argument, or something. I remember one time when ccoli and I were bantering back and forth, and one of the lower post members PMed me and asked what we were fighting about, and why. 

[oldbike54]

Jim.. some of us on the board are very good friends indeed, and gouge each other unmercifully. If someone new to the board saw some of those, they'd think we were having an argument, or something. I remember one time when ccoli and I were bantering back and forth, and one of the lower post members PMed me and asked what we were fighting about, and why. 

 Have had the same thing happen . We do sometimes seem to be really going at it when really it is just friends acting all "Aussie" 

  Dusty

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

The Munch Mamout . So... you're saying that makes me old ?

  Dusty

Munch Mammut

Poem that appeared in Cycle magazine:

"Oh what a bike was the Munch,
  Displacement, had it a bunch,
  The view from the seat was Germanically neat,
   But a Z1 would eat it for lunch." 

[56Pan]

Remember that guy? 

I do.  '67 and the year I graduated High School.  Enjoyed his articles in Mechanix Illustrated, but he definitely came across as an elite smart-ass at times. 

[oldbike54]

Munch Mammut

Poem that appeared in Cycle magazine:

"Oh what a bike was the Munch,
  Displacement, had it a bunch,
  The view from the seat was Germanically neat,
   But a Z1 would eat it for lunch." 

 That's great Charlie  Funny , a 1200 is considered normal these days .

  Dusty

[Sasquatch Jim]

  Retired is just another word for unemployed.

[80CX100]

The unfortunate truth of the written (or typed) word is that tone and inflection and intent can me misunderstood.  Especially jokes and sarcasm.  It helps to know the person you're conversing with.  Unfortunately, new members and members halfway around the world don't have that luxury.

This is it in a nutshell,,, email, texting etc,,, so easy to lose context, tone, mis-interpretation etc,,, and reality is, some times people forget basic manners, courtesy and respect when they're looking at a monitor and not someone's eyes, jmho.

As far as retirement goes,,, I'm into mine, close to 5 years,,, busier now than I've ever been,,, all good, getting better along the way,,, as far as youthful energy goes,,, I would probably rate myself somewhere on the scale of a "wise 15 yr old",,, aching old bones might not agree,,lol, but I'm not too dull to be around,,, ;~),lol.

Re this board,,, there is a passion here,, for many different pursuits, that is infectious,,, and an expert knowledge base on many fronts,, not just bikes or guzzis,,, and most importantly, very willing to share.

 re the crotchety complaint,,, I'll sum it up by saying this,,, a very close, older friend of mine, retired military man, 3 times cancer survivor, a perfectionist in every endeavour/challenge he ever took up,,, in his late 60's taught himself how to make guitars. They were beautiful, as was any thing else he created,,, he was also an opinionated self righteous abrasive know it all,,, but I have to cut him some slack,,, he walks the walk, not just talk,,, when I ask him a question,,, I might be made to feel like a fool,,, but I know who I can depend on, to get the right answer,,, and I love him for it it,,, much like this forum.

[Rick4003]

Jim.. some of us on the board are very good friends indeed, and gouge each other unmercifully.

This is exactly how I see all the comments like "that's a dumb thing to say", like old friends gouging eachother. I would indeed do this with my old friends face to face. We know eachother well enough to be able to say something like that without the other person getting offended by it. Lot of the members on this site have been here for ages, (probably why they are all retired  ) and act like you would with an old friend.

I am probably one of the guys with the lowest post counts but I do check in every day to see what's going on, even if I don't post so much.

This post might not say so much as I am young and knows nothing compared to the other guys on this forum

Ulrik

[oldbike54]

 Rick , we don't know anything either 

  Dusty

[Penderic]

Before they let me join, there used to be a entrance test.

 

[Tom]

Amazing.......no swearing on this forum and someone gets bent out of shape for a comment that is taken by the majority as okay but one person cannot handle.  BAH....WHAAaaaaaaa.  Want some whine with that????
Can't handle the virtual campfire?  You probably can't handle a real campfire with us in person.

[TobyJug]

Many years ago (remember- we're all old gits here) at a Guzzi Rally in Derbyshire, England I met a couple at the 'disco' (I said it was many years ago didn't I?).  We went outside to have a joint and carried on later in their tent.  Spent a long time looking for a pressure gauge and giggling.  That's how I think of this forum - guys and gals you can talk to and have good time with.

[jas67]

....
As far as retirement goes,,, I'm into mine, close to 5 years,,, busier now than I've ever been,,,
....

When I finally get to retire, I expect to keep myself busy.   The difference will be, I'll be busy with more things that I WANT to do, and less with things that I HAVE to do.

I will also do these things more on my own schedule.   No longer will I be tortured with nice weather all week long while I'm chained to a desk at work, in between two rainy weekends.   I'll have the flexibility to ride, and do other things that I want to do outside WHEN the weather is nice, not IF the weather is nice.

[Cool Runnings]

Those midweek 10:00 AM to 3:00 PM rides with a nice lunch in between sure are nice.