Another small retro-standard to enter the fray

[jas67]

The Genuine Scooter company is going to build a 400cc thumper powered restro standard, ala SR400, though, theres has electric start.
http://www.scooterfile.com/oems/genuine-scooter-company/exclusive-genuine-to-produce-small-motorcycle-for-2016/

The engine looks like it could be a copy of the Honda GB500 (400 in other markets), or any number of their larger dirt-bike thumpers with twin exhaust ports.

The bike is priced about $1,000 less than the SR400, which, itself, is priced about $1,000 too high.   Genuine's scooters, and now this motorcycles are manufactured by PGO in Taiwan, and of on par with Japanese manufacturers' quality.  This bike should give the SR400 a run for its money.

Priced only $200 more than the Suzuki TU250X, and only weighing 24 lbs more than that bike, this would be a fantastic starter bike, or even just a lightweight classic styled bike for any rider.

[Dogwalker]

The Genuine Scooter company is going to build...

To rebadge the Mash Five Hundred without even changing the colors.




Mash is the european subsidiary of the chinese brand Shineray
http://www.mash-italia.it/moto/

[jas67]

To rebadge the Mash Five Hundred without even changing the colors.




Mash is the european subsidiary of the chinese brand Shineray
http://www.mash-italia.it/moto/

I found that a little later and thought I edited my post (on my work computer), I'm thinking that I probably didn't click "Post".

In any case, these bikes are, mechanically, copies of the Honda GB500.

[oldbike54]

 Jay , wonder if the hop up parts from the GB will fit ?

  Dusty

[jas67]

Jay , wonder if the hop up parts from the GB will fit ?

  Dusty

Knowing the Chinese copy machines, it is likely parts will interchange.

[drums4money]

I'd like one of these retro-honda knock-off Sky Team thingy's if they ever make it to the US. 

[Aaron D.]

I thinj the Genuine thing is more important than the BMW thing.

[oldbike54]

I thinj the Genuine thing is more important than the BMW thing.

 I thinj so also Aaron 

  Dusty

[Aaron D.]

A winj is as good as a nudge.

[Sasquatch Jim]

Aye like it. Where can I get one?

[rboe]

Dang, if the QC is there this could be a good thing. Not as pretty as the GB but that could be worjed on.

[oldbike54]

A winj is as good as a nudge.

 Well of course 


 

Dang, if the QC is there this could be a good thing. Not as pretty as the GB but that could be worjed on.

 Waj thinking the same thing 

  Dusty

[Sasquatch Jim]

 Doesn't the K work on your keyboards?

[oldbike54]

Doesn't the K work on your keyboards?

 Sure , what's your poinj ?

  Dusty

[jas67]

Doesn't the K work on your keyboards?

What about the 'R' on your keyboards?
I recall a comment about an V11 "Spot" or something like that.

[oldbike54]

What about the 'R' on your keyboards?
I recall a comment about an V11 "Spot" or something like that.

 Woof woof Chuckie woof woof , RRRRRRRRRR !

  Dusty

[Loftness]

We just ordered a few of them.  Phil can speak more on it b/c he's ridden one already, but I'm interested to see how these handle and hold up against the mainstream competition. 

[Dogwalker]

In any case, these bikes are, mechanically, copies of the Honda GB500.

The frame is different, but the engine is a copy of the Honda RFVC.

[Travman]

It is almost good looking, but something is not quite right about the styling. It needs to be polished a little more. For example, the front fender supports look wonky. The frame triangle behind the engine has a weird shape. The exhaust has a few akward bends. The seat already has several wrinkles in the side panels. Basically it looks like a Chinese made machine.

I would pay $1,500 more if it was made by Honda, looked a little better, and used the actual Honda GB500 motor. Actually why not just bring back the GB500 similar to Yamaha bringing back the SR400.

[jas67]

Actually why not just bring back the GB500 similar to Yamaha bringing back the SR400.

 :1:

[oldbike54]

It is almost good looking, but something is not quite right about the styling. It needs to be polished a little more. For example, the front fender supports look wonky. The frame triangle behind the engine has a weird shape. The exhaust has a few akward bends. The seat already has several wrinkles in the side panels. Basically it looks like a Chinese made machine.

I would pay $1,500 more if it was made by Honda, looked a little better, and used the actual Honda GB500 motor. Actually why not just bring back the GB500 similar to Yamaha bringing back the SR400.

 Probably because , despite their appeal to some of us , they didn't sell very well .

  Dusty

[Travman]

Probably because , despite their appeal to some of us , they didn't sell very well .

  Dusty

True. The latest SR400 hasn't sold well either. So it will probably take another 35 years for Yamaha to try again.

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

True. The latest SR400 hasn't sold well either. So it will probably take another 35 years for Yamaha to try again.

It sold well enough for Yamaha to have them in the lineup again for 2016.

[pikipiki]

Is MASH really a subsidiary of a Chinese company? If so that's got to be a positive. I thought Mash started out as a European bike importer commissioning some restyled bikes, each model could potentially be from a different manufacturer, if the brand has any problems it could fold and a new brand be launched without baggage of dissatisfied customers. Don't make bikes, Don't design bikes, buy bikes in bulk with only cosmetic alterations for intended market. Worst of all world's. Second hand Moto Guzzi better in absolutely all respects!

[lucydad]

I would buy the Kawasaki Ninja 300 over either the entry BMW or this bike....prefer the small twin, and very refined engineering of the proven Ninja design. 

[jas67]

I would buy the Kawasaki Ninja 300 Yamaha YZF-R3 over either the entry BMW or this bike....prefer the small twin, ...

There, I fixed it for you   

[kirkemon]

Lightweight shootout:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu0mx4N4k2k

[jas67]

Second hand Moto Guzzi better in absolutely all respects!

My thoughts exactly.    In fact, I just bought, and am picking up a slightly used V7 Special for about what one of these Genuine/Mash/Shineray bikes would cost out the door!


 

[pikipiki]

My thoughts exactly.    In fact, I just bought, and am picking up a slightly used V7 Special for about what one of these Genuine/Mash/Shineray bikes would cost out the door!

That's what I did you won't regret it, and if you are unlucky with your Guzzi you have the benefit of it being a known quantity. People here will help you.

As for these imitators:
Genuine my Ar**

[Antietam Classic Cycle]

Interesting (to me anyway) how well my former MZ Silver Star 500 and current Moto Morini 350 K2 compare to all of these. The MZ had 31 bhp and weighed 350 lbs., averaged 60 mpg. The Morini is rated at 36 bhp, weighs the same 350 lbs. and so far has averaged 76 mpg. Either is far more desirable to me than any on that chart.