New V9 Moto Guzzi Roamer love/hate fest

[jas67]

The difference being that the Norton and Trumpets were still pretty reasonable in size.

I have a CAR MOTOR that's smaller than current BT motors, actually I've had THREE CARS WITH MOTORS SMALLER THAN THE CURRENT BT... Four if you count the 1.8T VW that was still smaller than at least the biggest of the current Harley motors.

That's ridiculous.

Not apples to apples.   At least two of those car motors are turbos.    I do get your point though.

Car engine size is shrinking quickly and relying on boost.  Many are in the the 1.0 to 1.4L range.

[Moto]

Maybe those flat top rails would take a T3 tank and shorty seat! 24 liters/ 6.3 U.S. gallons.

T3-like power with a lot less weight would be fun enough. I'm getting excited again.

[kirkemon]

I surely like the current V7 looks over the Roamer. Even the name turns me off to it.
Just curious if this was designed in Pasadena at the Piaggio Design Center, which is headed up by Miguel Galluzzi?

[rocker59]

Just curious if this was designed in Pasadena at the Piaggio Design Center, which is headed up by Miguel Galluzzi?

Shirley, it was...

[mgmark]

Does anyone know if the V9 frame is based on the V7 and about the same size? Or has it been scaled up some. I am kinda tall and would like the new bike to be a bit bigger than the V7. Tonti frames fit me very well.

Mark

[Arizona Wayne]

If not already posted here, go to www.motorcycledaily .com for all specs, more pics, info. 

If weight is similar to my 750 Breva, 7 more hp would be enough for me.  But I won't switch seats anytime soon. 

[blackcat]

If not already posted here, go to www.motorcycledaily .com for all specs, more pics, info. 

"THE V9 ROAMER AND THE V9 BOBBER ARE MOTO GUZZI’S EASY CRUISERS...."

I would have avoided that wording as it reminds me of light beer.

[Kev m]

Does anyone know if the V9 frame is based on the V7 and about the same size? Or has it been scaled up some. I am kinda tall and would like the new bike to be a bit bigger than the V7. Tonti frames fit me very well.

Mark

It looks to be very close dimensionally to the V7. Though ergonomically it may offer a smidge more room.

If not already posted here, go to www.motorcycledaily .com for all specs, more pics, info. 

If weight is similar to my 750 Breva, 7 more hp would be enough for me.  But I won't switch seats anytime soon. 

They're claiming about the same weight as the current smallblocks needing low to mid 400's.

[jas67]

It looks to be very close dimensionally to the V7. Though ergonomically it may offer a smidge more room.

Ergonomically, the handlebars are higher, the foot pegs look to be several inches more forward.   Both problems could likely be fixed with V7 or aftermarket parts.

[Kev m]

Ergonomically, the handlebars are higher, the foot pegs look to be several inches more forward.   Both problems could likely be fixed with V7 or aftermarket parts.

Neither sound like problems to me.

[JeffOlson]

An accessories catalogue is now available. Unfortunately, it does not show any seat options (you know, in case you want to take your non-Italian-Supermodel friend for a ride with you).

How about the tag line?

V9
THE REAL THING
Because the only thing that counts out there is what you are within.

[rocker59]

Does anyone know if the V9 frame is based on the V7 and about the same size? Or has it been scaled up some. I am kinda tall and would like the new bike to be a bit bigger than the V7. Tonti frames fit me very well.

Mark

It's V7 small block based, but there is a new lower frame rail, which appears to be a couple inches lower than the V7.

Pegs are forward a little from the V7, so there will be more leg room.

[kirkemon]

Am I the only one who likes a tachometer? Oh dear.

[Arizona Wayne]

Mind that 17 l is the tank of the Alba (since that was the queston). I don't know how big is the tank of the v9.

My guess for the V9 however is 16 l / 4.2 gallons. The tank seemed pretty wide in the spy shots. and 16 l is the dimension of the tank of the old SB standard bikes.

Spec. sheet says 15L gas tank @ motorcycledaily

[Kev m]

Am I the only one who likes a tachometer? Oh dear.

I kind of assumed that it is incorporated into the single instrument pod in some way like on the Cali 1400, and I believe on the Scrambler, New Bonnie, Scout, and all of the Harley air-cooled line for the last few years that have a single instrument pod.

[rocker59]

Am I the only one who likes a tachometer? Oh dear.

Likely the same setup as a Cal 14.

Tach and speedo in the same unit.

[SeanF]

The specs indicate a double cardan joint...could this open up the possibility of a future model with increased rear suspension travel? Something more Stelvio than Scrambler.

[rocker59]

 

[jas67]

I'm digging the yellow too.    The V9 is starting to grow on me after seeing it in yellow.

Guzzi should allow mix-and match ordering of these.

I'd want the Roamer in Yellow, but, with the black pipes and mirrors from the Bobber.

[ritratto]

E' un pezzo di merda!  Fa fan cullo!!!

Give us sport or go f*** yourselves Piaggio!

A Harley cruiser, really? I mean, really?

[rboe]

Not a fan of yellow; but that bike has my attention. 

[bad Chad]

Good god!   You guys really are the problem.  75 grumpy fucs arm chair quarter backing about how Piaggio,(the only reason Guzzi exists in 2015) screwed the pooch!

It's gonna be a long winter for a lot of you.

[Vasco DG]

Piaggio may well of saved Guzzi but now it seems they are determined to piss on its history.

I'd rather stab myself in the neck with a hypodermic full of botulotoxin than call this horrid little monstrosity a Guzzi.

Pete

[jas67]

Piaggio may well of saved Guzzi but now it seems they are determined to piss on its history.

I'd rather stab myself in the neck with a hypodermic full of botulotoxin than call this horrid little monstrosity a Guzzi.

Pete

I'm not a fan of it either, but, face it, during the last 25 years, Guzzi has sold way more California cruisers than sporting Guzzis.    That is the market that they sell to.

And, as for sport bikes, well, sport bike buyers are going for Ducati or Japanese bikes.   Most of them wouldn't give Guzzi another look.

There are a lot of hipsters out there.  You can't blame Guzzi for going after that market.   You don't have to like it.   If it helps keep Guzzi around to be "going out of business" for another 95 years, then it is a good thing.   Hopefully, Guzzi will replace the Griso with something else you do like.

[Chuck in Indiana]

Neither sound like problems to me.

Sounds like problems to me. The exhaust is in the way of moving the foot controls aft. And.. just what's up with that brake lever?? Do you have to take your foot off the peg to use it? I know my ankle doesn't bend like that.. I *really* dislike those controls.
Color me unimpressed.

[rocker59]

And.. just what's up with that brake lever?? Do you have to take your foot off the peg to use it? I know my ankle doesn't bend like that.. I *really* dislike those controls.
Color me unimpressed.

The rear brake pedal is annoying on my V7 Special.  I like my brake pedal adjusted low, and it doesn't appear to have any adjustment available.  The brake pedal on the V9 looks even worse.  It would annoy me to no end. 

[Aaron D.]

So how do y'all think it will stand up to the Scout 60? $8,999 for a Scout...

[Loftness]

Good god!   You guys really are the problem.  75 grumpy fucs arm chair quarter backing about how Piaggio,(the only reason Guzzi exists in 2015) screwed the pooch!

It's gonna be a long winter for a lot of you.

There seem to be three distinct groups of Guzzisti these days; those that want Guzzi to stay in the 80s and 90s, those that want Guzzi to get back into racing,  and those that want a little modern trend edge to their Guzzi (ironically with a retro twist).  The first group simply can't stand anything that doesn't look enough like a Cal Vin or Nevada.  The second is starting to realize they probably will need to go look at Aprilia for Piaggio's sporty offerings.  The third is pretty happy with the direction Guzzi is going.

I fall somewhere between groups 2 and 3. 

[rocker59]

There seem to be three distinct groups of Guzzisti these days; those that want Guzzi to stay in the 80s and 90s, those that want Guzzi to get back into racing,  and those that want a little modern trend edge to their Guzzi (ironically with a retro twist).  The first group simply can't stand anything that doesn't look enough like a Cal Vin or Nevada.  The second is starting to realize they probably will need to go look at Aprilia for Piaggio's sporty offerings.  The third is pretty happy with the direction Guzzi is going.

I fall somewhere between groups 2 and 3.

Yeah, and since I don't want an Aprilia of any kind, I don't know where my motorcycle future will lead.

I like my V7 Special for commuting and around-town duty.  I love my Sport 1100 for back roads blasting and longer distance SPORT-touring.  I actually kind of miss my V11 Nero Corsa.  It was a helluva 2-up sport-touring bike for my needs.

I value good suspension, and wish Guzzi would take heed from the Thruxton R, and throw us some bones.  The BIG hole in my V7 Special's fun factor is the bargain bin suspension.  I'd have paid more for better forks.  Really I would've.

Maybe Norge and Stelvio will have replacements coming down the pike that will make me like them better.  A lighter, half-faired replacement for the Norge would pique my interest.  A smaller, lighter Stelvio would, too.

About the coolest bike I've seen in the new releases is the Triumph Thruxton R.  A Bellagio-based competitor for that bike would really interest me.

[Loftness]

About the coolest bike I've seen in the new releases is the Triumph Thruxton R.  A Bellagio-based competitor for that bike would really interest me.

Agree...and I wish Guzzi would do something in that 1200 gap to revamp the Griso.  I feel like they've given up on it.