2016 Indian Scout 60

[rocker59]

Wow...

So I just got an email from my local Indian dealer.  $8999 MSRP for the new "entry-level" Scout 60.

1000cc / 61ci version of the existing Scout.  How can they sell 'em that cheap ?? 

Quite a statement that they want to sell some bikes !!!

http://www.indianmotorcycle.com/en-us/scout-sixty-thunder-black

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/2015/11/article/2016-indian-scout-sixty-first-look/

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/first-look-2016-indian-scout-sixty-budget-cruiser-motorcyclist-magazine

[oldbike54]

 Like the 883 Sportster that HD loses money on ... Probably an example of modern mass production techniques .

  Dusty

[Kev m]

Like the 883 Sportster that HD loses money on ... Probably an example of modern mass production techniques .

  Dusty

You're being facetious right? Cause even the DEALERs are reportedly making a margin of around $1700 in the 883 these days.

No way the MoCo would take it in the shorts and leave them that much margin.

[oldbike54]

You're being facetious right? Cause even the DEALERs are reportedly making a margin of around $1700 in the 883 these days.

No way the MoCo would take it in the shorts and leave them that much margin.

 Uh Kev , considering that you were involved in the discussion re HD losing money on "entry" level Sportsters , kinda surprised you don't get this 

  Dusty

[Arizona Wayne]

Good thing this Scout has such a small gas tank, otherwise I'd have to road test 1, even tho the last thing I need is another MC!  We do have a local Indian dealer now.

[Travlr]

Another nail in the 55 hp V9 coffin.

M

[rocker59]

Raise the seat and move the pegs back.  Please.

Yes.  Seat up 4 to 5 inches.  Pegs back 12 to 18 inches.  2 more gallons of gas.

I've been wondering for a long time if one of these vintage BMW seats could be made to fit...

[oldbike54]

Another nail in the 55 hp V9 coffin.

M

 Maybe , personally the Scout leaves me a bit cold . Sure it is a fine machine , but I prefer any iteration of the V9 .

  Dusty

[oldbike54]

Yes.  Seat up 4 to 5 inches.  Pegs back 12 to 18 inches.  2 more gallons of gas.

I've been wondering for a long time if one of these vintage BMW seats could be made to fit...

 Don't post that on a BMW site , there will be pitch forks and torches involved 

  Dusty

[rocker59]

Another nail in the 55 hp V9 coffin.

M

d00d.  Hipsters and bikers don't really cross-shop.

The disaffected HD customers that Indian is pulling in are not looking at Triumph Bonnevilles and Guzzi V7s/V9s.

They may pass on a Honda Shadow or V-Star in favor of a Scout, but those folks aren't cross-shopping Bonnies and V7s, either.

[Kev m]

Uh Kev , considering that you were involved in the discussion re HD losing money on "entry" level Sportsters , kinda surprised you don't get this 

  Dusty

I sorta remember the discussion, but don't remember your participation...

[Kev m]

Raise the seat and move the pegs back.  Please.

http://www.indianmotorcycles.net/threads/scout-1920-solo-saddle-seat-riding-impressions.9385/

The seating position completely changes. You sit much higher, and it puts you in a position that's more "standard" than the cruiser type position of the stock set-up. With the stock bars rolled slightly up and the reduced reach foot controls it'll sit you more like an old Triumph or Honda CB. Taller guys will also feel more room to stretch.

[charlie b]

Yes.  Seat up 4 to 5 inches.  Pegs back 12 to 18 inches.  2 more gallons of gas.

ditto

[oldbike54]

I sorta remember the discussion, but don't remember your participation...

 Good grief man , I am the old dude here , no excuse for you 

  Dusty

[gwb_mg]

Nice looking and probably a nice performer but with a 3.3 gallon tank, usable 2.8 gallon would be a killer. I complain about the fuel capacity on my Cali 1400T, can't imagine having to refuel every 70 or so miles.

[rocker59]

Nice looking and probably a nice performer but with a 3.3 gallon tank, usable 2.8 gallon would be a killer. I complain about the fuel capacity on my Cali 1400T, can't imagine having to refuel every 70 or so miles.

I can!  I've owned two Sportsters with 2.25 gallon tanks.  Upgraded one to 3.25, and would've gone to 4.5 had it been available at the time..

The hotrod 1974 model got between 35 and 40 mpg.  Stopping for fuel was VERY often.

The 1994 model 883 returned 55 mpg, so not at bad.  But still, walking at just over 100 miles wasn't fun.

Those experiences may have fueled my obsession with having as large a fuel capacity as possible.  And wanting 200 miles range out of my motorcycles.

[Kev m]

Nice looking and probably a nice performer but with a 3.3 gallon tank, usable 2.8 gallon would be a killer. I complain about the fuel capacity on my Cali 1400T, can't imagine having to refuel every 70 or so miles.

THOUGH I've seen reports as low as 35 mpg, I see a lot more in the 40-45 range.

Call it 3 gallons and 40 mpg, that's 120 miles range. So looking for fuel every 100 or so.

But sounds like it can be stretched a little bit.

And on the Scout 60, the lower hp could/should mean slightly better economy no?

You could be closing in on a range of 150 with 50 mpg.

[kingoffleece]

I could make  a raised seat for that bike-I do this for many V7's now-as could any good seat maker.

Seats and screens-two things that benefit from the custom touch.

[kirkemon]

If I could just get over that huge butt ugly radiator

[Kev m]

If I could just get over that huge butt ugly radiator

Have you seen one in person yet?

As opposed to photographs (many of which are taken from a crouch, almost street level view) the radiator does disappear quite a bit in person.

And I say this as a person who generally doesn't like water-cooled bikes on principle.

[jas67]

Raise the seat and move the pegs back.  Please.

THIS:
http://www.indianmotorcycle.com/en-us/shop/accessories/solo-saddle-seat/pid-2880905-05


Plus the reduced reach pegs, and maybe different handlebars should make it have reasonably standard ergos.

A posted on the ADVRider thread for this bike said that this seat  is 4-5 inches higher than the stock one.  It looks good too.

I'd love to get a test ride on a bike so equipped, as I really like the Scout, but, hated the ergos when I rode it.

EDIT: I see Kev M stole my thunder (that'll teach me to post w/o reading the entire thread).   To my credit, I sent him the info earlier in the day  .

[Arizona Wayne]

Indian sells 3 different height seats for them.  If you go to that web site 1st posted here you can see all the accessories available.

[Kev m]

EDIT: I see Kev M stole my thunder (that'll teach me to post w/o reading the entire thread).   To my credit, I sent him the info earlier in the day  .

And woke me up with it ya bastid!

[lucydad]

I sat on a standard Scout last Saturday.  Did not like the geometry at all.  Passed on a test ride.  Faces on sales guy just fell flat.  How to shift and brake when my legs are in front of me, and not under me?  Totally foreign seating.  Too bad as otherwise it is a very fine machine, and now has the ABS. 

Now then the Royal Enfields....hmmm... .

[richthib]

New Scout 60.  Very interesting.  I do believe they are going after Harley and 883 Sportster with this one.  The 1139 (1200) Scout (100hp) I believe is focused more toward the 1200 Sportster at a $10,990 price.  Although my wife riding Guzzis for over 40 years opted for the new Scout 1200 this past year and is very happy with it.  10,000 miles on it now with one 6,000 mile cross country trip.  Reason for going to the Scout was several actually.  First was the low 25" seat height.  She has some hip and leg issues that makes it uncomfortable on the 30" guzzi. She actually likes the feet forward position, but did opt for the reduced reach controls and handlebars that moved everything back a bit.  She likes the"look" and performance.  The 3.3 gallon gas tank really isn't that much of a issue on this bike.  She regularly averages 55+ mpg at 70-80 mph speeds and has ran 150 miles between fuel stops.  average fuel stops are around 120 miles.  A 3 gallon fuel up on reserve did not see it hiccup or run out.   She can out accelerate my 2014 Cali 1400.  She likes the seat and don't complain on 500-600 mile days.  We also have a 2014 V7 Special, but she choses the Scout over it, mainly because of saddle height.  The water cooling is a plus here in the desert of Arizona where we ride in triple digit heat during the summer.  Indian is building some fine motorcycles and with the backing of Polaris Industries I believe have a good future.  Indian gave us a 5 year full coverage extended warrantee because of my Veteran status which was a nice perk along with $500 credit toward accessories. 10,000 mile service intervals is about twice most motorcycles.  I'm staying on my Guzzis, but I won't divorce or chastise my wife for riding the Indian brand. 

[Rough Edge racing]

 And it's probably crowding 600 pounds with fuel ?

[rocker59]

And it's probably crowding 600 pounds with fuel ?

From a review:  "Soaking wet and ready to ride, the Scout weighs in at 558 lbs"

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/first-drives/reviews/a6339/5-things-i-learned-riding-the-2015-indian-scout/

[Aaron D.]

They'll sell a boatload, I think.

You can move controls around We too did a lot of riding on our Scouts (met the Thibodeaus at the National) and 120-130 is when we saw the fuel light. Not an issue for us.

My question-if someone is looking at a V9 Bobber or Roamer, and a Scout is at this price (albeit slightly down on power to the full-fat version), which one will they buy?

[jas67]

They'll sell a boatload, I think.

You can move controls around We too did a lot of riding on our Scouts (met the Thibodeaus at the National) and 120-130 is when we saw the fuel light. Not an issue for us.

My question-if someone is looking at a V9 Bobber or Roamer, and a Scout is at this price (albeit slightly down on power to the full-fat version), which one will they buy?

Has the pricing for the V9 series been announced?

I'm going to guess they're higher than the Scout 60.

As far as which one they'll buy?   Good question. They're different enough that the decision may come down to preferred style, though, Indian likely have a better dealer network depending on geographic location.

Smart move on Indian's part.    I think that the Scout 60 will sell very well.

[Aaron D.]

The real reason for the Scout 60
www.indianmotorcycl es.net/threads/roland-sands-super-hooligan-scout-sixty-11676/

New flat trackers for the Super Hooligan flat track event and next year's GNC series

edit-can't make the link work. Sorry.