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Offline Travman

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Re: are we losing the Griso
« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2015, 04:46:49 PM »
I'd love a Tenni Griso-and would never sell it.  Absolutely a stunner of a bike.
I just sold one last week
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Re: are we losing the Griso
« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2015, 05:03:26 PM »
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Only if you consider the California III, California 1100, California EV, and California Vintage to be "cruisers".

They're standards in my book, but I know there are other books out there...>>


Don't all those bikes have sit-up-and-beg riding positions and floorboards? Not necessarily definitive, I know, but that seems pretty cruiserish to me....

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Re: are we losing the Griso
« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2015, 06:00:08 PM »
Norge Pilot, your posts seem to be mostly negative concerning Guzzi.   Are you happy with yours, or do you feel its time to move on for you?

I make a distinction between the bikes and the company. The company is poorly run, has little quality control, makes customers suffer and doesn't inspire confidence in their products.

The bikes themselves are nice, the Norge great but $10 worth of quality control would make it world class, it is not as it leaves the factory.

You can like the bike and think the company could care less about anything but itself.

Hear me say anything bad about Guzzi bikes other than some of the newer styles might not thrill me? Nope. I just happen to say what is on my mind when it comes to the company.

I went to the MGX demo. What I heard. A lot of gushing. I told them what I thought about their support and quality control, which does suck no matter how you spin it. I did tell them.I liked the MGX. We can say it is the way it is but guess what? It is the way it is because few really say it the way it is. Companies can change, the rest of them did yet when it comes to MG, just accept it? Nah.

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Re: are we losing the Griso
« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2015, 06:06:07 PM »
I just sold one last week

Time to update your signature line then.

What are you going to replace it with?     :popcorn:
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Re: are we losing the Griso
« Reply #34 on: December 04, 2015, 06:39:01 PM »
Time to update your signature line then.

What are you going to replace it with?     :popcorn:
No plans.  This does free me up some for whatever comes along. It also lets me concentrate on what I'm riding the most.
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Re: are we losing the Griso
« Reply #35 on: December 04, 2015, 08:32:26 PM »
No plans.  This does free me up some for whatever comes along. It also lets me concentrate on what I'm riding the most.

So, which one are you writing the most?
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Re: are we losing the Griso
« Reply #36 on: December 04, 2015, 08:37:41 PM »
So, which one are you writing the most?

Are you sure you didn't mean... Oh never mind... :boozing:
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Re: are we losing the Griso
« Reply #37 on: December 04, 2015, 09:03:00 PM »
So, which one are you writing the most?
Lately it is the RE Cafe Racer. It is the newest so it gets the most attention for now.
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Re: are we losing the Griso
« Reply #38 on: December 04, 2015, 09:55:12 PM »
Are you sure you didn't mean... Oh never mind... :boozing:

Yes, riding -- damned autocorrect!
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Re: are we losing the Griso
« Reply #39 on: December 04, 2015, 11:20:22 PM »
Lately it is the RE Cafe Racer. It is the newest so it gets the most attention for now.

Which makes sense in and of itself, but maybe... Just maybe, there's something to this smaller, more basic bike thing.

Maybe, when we're done chasing hp and speed just for the sake of themselves, there's another joy to be had.

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Re: are we losing the Griso
« Reply #40 on: December 05, 2015, 09:13:28 AM »
I'm not worried there's enough Grisos in the US to last my lifetime and I do my own maintenance.

Just like BMW, Guzzi could always stop production, revise and innovate then start production back up again.
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Re: are we losing the Griso
« Reply #41 on: December 05, 2015, 06:29:12 PM »
I make a distinction between the bikes and the company. The company is poorly run, has little quality control, makes customers suffer and doesn't inspire confidence in their products.

The bikes themselves are nice, the Norge great but $10 worth of quality control would make it world class, it is not as it leaves the factory.

You can like the bike and think the company could care less about anything but itself.

Hear me say anything bad about Guzzi bikes other than some of the newer styles might not thrill me? Nope. I just happen to say what is on my mind when it comes to the company.


unfortunately this is just typical Italian attitude. I just bought a new Benelli M2 it's $1600 retail and has 3 different things that are in need of modification. all piss poor quality control. I could buy 3-4 Turkish guns for the price and I expected better.
I just drove through St. Louis and a Yamaha dealer is advertising a brand new 2013 super Ten. for $7995 so you know how well they are selling.I
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Re: are we losing the Griso
« Reply #42 on: December 05, 2015, 09:30:14 PM »
I'm not worried there's enough Grisos in the US to last my lifetime and I do my own maintenance.

Just like BMW, Guzzi could always stop production, revise and innovate then start production back up again.

The last BMW Airhead was made, what, 20 years ago?    There are still plenty of Airheads to go around.   Heck, for that matter, the last twin-shock Airhead was made 31 years ago, and there are lots of those around, and available for sale.

For that matter, there were a lot less loops made, but, they still show up on CL frequently enough.   I'm thinking that you'll be able to pick up a used Griso for quite a long time.
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Re: are we losing the Griso
« Reply #43 on: December 06, 2015, 09:07:20 AM »
Because in the flesh it is maybe the sexiest motorcycle on Earth, I am sorry to see the Griso go; however, IMHO dropping it and the Stelvio and Norge makes GREAT business sense.  Especially the Norge and Stelvio were both drastically in need of overhauls and for the last couple years have been falling woefully behind (on paper) with their rivals in the same class.  Guzzi is, of course, a very small company relatively speaking even under the larger Piaggio banner.  So, revamp the entire line in one fail swoop is some serious dollars and time; thus, send out the new V7/V9 and keep sending out the Norge and Stelvio even at a possible loss until you can revamp them too?  I understand if they think it makes more dollars to drop bikes like the Stelvio and Norge until they can come back to the class with a revamped and more competitive bike. 

But in regard to above, just a quick question for those more knowledgeable as per Guzzi's history than me.  It is common practice for other manufacturers to drop a bike from the US line, then bring it back a year or two later after development and such.  How many times have you read, "And x bike is returning to the US market after updating."  But when I got to thinking about it, has Guzzi ever done this; that is, has it dropped a bike and then brought it back over later after updating and kept the same model name and such?  Was there a lapse in the 1100 Cali before the 1400 was brought over?  Others? 

As per the whole Piaggio turning Guzzi into their cruiser line, let me just say  :rolleyes:  Folks, whether explicitly stated or not, Guzzi has always been the cruiser line under the big banner, so whether it's stated or not formally doesn't seem to matter.  And anyhow, if they keep sending out SUPER COOL bikes like the Roamer and such then by all means, let them continue to be the cruiser line because I LIKE IT.  :thumb:


 


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