MB and Audi buys bike companies

[drums4money]

I've always wondered about that "Ultimate Driving Machine" bit.

By definition, there can be only one "Ultimate" anything (much like The Highlander.)  So if BMW builds two cars, then one is the "Ultimate Driving Machine" and the other one is not.

 

". . . the 2016 BMW 328i - the penultimate driving machine."

[drums4money]

Let's see, Guzzi and............Suba ru.     

Gu-baru

I love it.

[PJPR01]

In addition to the $500 dealer credit, and $500 VISA Gift card, there are, possibly buy-outs and/or trade-in incentives.     A co-worker that has a 2012 Passat just got a letter from VW touting "trade-in incentives."   No details, the details are at the dealer.   He said that he'd keep me posted.   Meanwhile, I'm watching the mailbox.

Yeah...that pathetic offer from VW is way below what would be required in my view.  I've stopped by 2 dealers to ask about trade - ins on my 2014 Passat TDI SE, the value the VW dealer places on the Diesel Passats is well below what it should be...evidence of the loss of market value.  If VW corporate is willing to bridge that gap...great...until then, will just keep driving it and unfortunately polluting more than it should.  Dealerships don't know much about the resolution, they would just like to sell a new car, and any Diesels they are taking in are valued much lower than desired and just sitting in the backlot since they cannot be sold.

[oldbike54]

 Meh , cars are boring ...

  Dusty

[PJPR01]

Meh , cars are boring ...  Dusty

:)  Sure...I believe you!!  haha!

[ITSec]

Let's see, Guzzi and............Suba ru.     

I have had a few Subarus, including my current 2006 Baja Turbo 5-speed (now at 94,000). I have had a few Guzzis, including my current 2008 - new in 2011 - Norge (now at 102,000). I have had a few political thoughts, including my current and longstanding extreme ones (liberals are centrists in my view).

None of the above have been entirely trouble-free, but all have been very rewarding and well suited to my values and what I appreciate 

[John Ulrich]

Meh , cars are boring ...

You have to sitting in the right cars.....   

[oldbike54]

You have to sitting in the right cars.....   

 I can't afford a 1970's Can Am car ...


  Dusty

[oldbike54]

 Oh , and let's keep our politics to ourselves please , thank you .

  Dusty

[rboe]

Subaru's do have a wimpy sound. But they do make a very good car (bias'd, we own an Outback). Very high resale value too.

[Tom]

Don't remember what Zoom Zoom's WRX sounded like.  I was going too fast.  :-0

[Scud]

As far as motorcyclists not being into cars - what data supports that?  All the motorcyclists I know are into cars in a big way, could be older Land Rovers, sports cars, or other unusual brands, or racing them, and certainly appreciate something more interesting than a Toyota Tercel.  Of course, my opinion is statistically irrelevant, so I suppose it's possible, maybe people splurge on a motorcycle and have less disposable income for a car...don't know.

I think this question may have been in prompted by my earlier post. No data. I was only sharing my experience of people I know - as are you.

But I also appreciate something more interesting than a Tercel.  I've been in some fast cars and really enjoyed driving a Tesla roadster for a 1/2 hour.  But after that I still only wanted to ride my motorcycle. If I had enough money to buy a really special car, I'd still rather spend it on a herd of motorcycles.  Coincidentally, I am in Houston on business today and my rental car is a Toyota Prius - it's adequate - I don't like it or dislike it - it's just there and it's fine.

[PJPR01]

My apologies on behalf of the rental car choice...I could have offered you a Guzzi to ride as your "rental", or something more entertaining in the 4 wheel variety! 

[rdbandkab]

The WRX's sound awesome in my opinion. (google WRX sounds or wrx drag racing sometime).  They have a nice low rumble that almost is V8-ish.   A buddy of mine (about 4 blocks away) has a WRX with a Stage 1 kit on it.    I can hear him start it up in the morning.
They can sound demonic as well, with turbo waste-gate noises and backfires..

My Forester is as quiet as a mouse..

[Cool Runnings]

The WRX's sound awesome in my opinion. (google WRX sounds or wrx drag racing sometime).  They have a nice low rumble that almost is V8-ish.   A buddy of mine (about 4 blocks away) has a WRX with a Stage 1 kit on it.    I can hear him start it up in the morning.
They can sound demonic as well, with turbo waste-gate noises and backfires..

My Forester is as quiet as a mouse..

Would like to race that WRX with my little Dodge Avenger. 

My take is WRX drivers have an attitude.

BMW, Audi and Mercedes drivers have a attitude too. 

[rdbandkab]

"My take is WRX drivers have an attitude."

And all wheel drive for great launches.   Don't start watching the Youtubes of WRX drag races because you'll find yourself sitting at the box watching all kinds of cars going at each other.