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Re: Norge bending side stand (PICS) interim solution
« Reply #90 on: January 02, 2016, 05:22:20 PM »
In the meantime, this hasn't sold twice so contact the guy and buy the thing as I believe it will fit your bike.
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Moto-Guzzi-Breva-1100-Side-Stand-NO-RESERVE-/181958083373?vxp=mtr

For $5 bucks plus $10 bucks shipping, you can put in your claim and wait for the new one, then just shelve it in your garage,etc.
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Re: Norge bending side stand (PICS) interim solution
« Reply #91 on: January 02, 2016, 05:51:09 PM »
In the meantime, this hasn't sold twice so contact the guy and buy the thing as I believe it will fit your bike.
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Moto-Guzzi-Breva-1100-Side-Stand-NO-RESERVE-/181958083373?vxp=mtr

For $5 bucks plus $10 bucks shipping, you can put in your claim and wait for the new one, then just shelve it in your garage,etc.

I appreciate the info. The warranty claim is already in. It will be addressed that way.

After my OP some saw fit to throw gasoline and light a match to see what would happen. Then when the result was fire, run for the hills and then watch. Exactly what happened.

I'm being frugal, let MG pay for the new one. I said it wasn't a big deal, others accomplished that and then the blame anyone but MG came out like clockwork.

Why do they even bother with warranties, its always the owners fault anyway, or the weather.

I'll wait for MG to say whatever it is they will say, my last comment in this topic.

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Re: Norge bending side stand (PICS) interim solution
« Reply #92 on: January 02, 2016, 08:28:11 PM »
It doesn't look anymore bent than mine.  :boozing:

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Re: Norge bending side stand (PICS) interim solution
« Reply #93 on: January 02, 2016, 08:54:28 PM »
« Last Edit: January 02, 2016, 08:59:46 PM by Cool Runnings »

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Re: Norge bending side stand (PICS) interim solution update
« Reply #94 on: March 03, 2016, 11:47:29 AM »
Update.

The replacement side stand was replaced under warranty. No longer does the first bend contact the ground first and it is easier to pull it up level.

The answer was not a Euro stand, it was a non-bending side stand. All it took was a good dealer to look, listen and then follow through. They exist and well worth the effort to find.

They had a new MV Augusta Veloce sitting outside. With bags there is one heck of a smaller displacement bike for everything. Pricey though but it looks really good. Next to it was a yellow Ducati Scrambler. Everyone looked at it.

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Re: Norge bending side stand (PICS) Fixed.
« Reply #95 on: March 03, 2016, 02:05:39 PM »
Hey NP...how about posting a side by side pic of the two stands for compare purposes...would be interesting to see.  Thanks!
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Re: Norge bending side stand (PICS) Fixed.
« Reply #96 on: March 03, 2016, 02:24:38 PM »
Dealer kept the original side stand so I can't photo a side by side. Pretty sure dealers are required to retain warranty exchanged parts. Sonn as , if I can position the Norge the same exact way, maybe I can take a pic that way.

On the original, the first bend from the cross brace (the remainder of the stand then goes outward to the foot) would contact the ground. On the replacement, there is a gap so that the foot of the side stand is planted on the ground.

It made enough difference when leveling the Norge upright that I feel it right away, must be the angle thing. For sure, now I don't worry that it will continue to bend and there is confidence to use it routinely.

I have to say, thus far, not once has my Norge needed a service, part or fix that the dealer hasn't been able to perform the same day (within hours) or that Moto Guzzi has denied as a final position.
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Re: Norge bending side stand (PICS) Fixed.
« Reply #97 on: March 03, 2016, 02:26:58 PM »
Yeah...that's great service from a good dealer.  Pity on the pics, a side by side would have been nice to see.
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Re: Norge bending side stand (PICS) Fixed.
« Reply #98 on: March 03, 2016, 02:27:17 PM »
Dealer kept the original side stand so I can't photo a side by side. Pretty sure dealers are required to retain warranty exchanged parts.

On the original, the first bend from the cross brace (the remainder of the stand then goes outward to the foot) would contact the ground. On the replacement, there is a gap so that the foot of the side stand is planted on the ground.

It made enough difference when leveling the Norge upright that I feel it right away, must be the angle thing. For sure, now I don't worry that it will continue to bend and there is confidence to use it routinely.

I have to say, thus far, not once has my Norge needed a service, part or fix that the dealer hasn't been able to perform the same day (within hours) or that Moto Guzzi has denied as a final position.

GREAT! Now tell me how the hell do you put the dang thing on the center stand without tearing a big old hole in your foot and oh, that back can't take 500lb lifts anymore?  :thewife:

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Re: Norge bending side stand (PICS) Fixed.
« Reply #99 on: March 03, 2016, 02:39:32 PM »
GREAT! Now tell me how the hell do you put the dang thing on the center stand without tearing a big old hole in your foot and oh, that back can't take 500lb lifts anymore?  :thewife:

It can be quite difficult, especially if the nuts on the center stand hinge bolts are too tight, as mine were initially...

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Re: Norge bending side stand (PICS) Fixed.
« Reply #100 on: March 03, 2016, 02:48:08 PM »
GREAT! Now tell me how the hell do you put the dang thing on the center stand without tearing a big old hole in your foot and oh, that back can't take 500lb lifts anymore?  :thewife:

Easy.

Take a piece of 1/2" or 3/4" plywood and roll the Norge back where the rear tire if just on the plywood. You don't need a big piece just as wide as the tire and maybe 5 or 6" long.

Then put it up.

What happens is that the slight lift of the rear tire onto the plywood allows the centerstand to drop down just a tad making it far easier to put the Norge onto the center stand.

Wait. Put a similar piece out to the side which is where the side stand goes when you stop. That way the Norge isn't heaving over farther than it should.

You will be amazed at how much easier it is to put it up.

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Re: Norge bending side stand (PICS) Fixed.
« Reply #101 on: March 03, 2016, 03:12:48 PM »
What kind of oil have you been using?

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Re: Norge bending side stand (PICS) Fixed.
« Reply #102 on: March 03, 2016, 03:38:40 PM »
GREAT! Now tell me how the hell do you put the dang thing on the center stand without tearing a big old hole in your foot and oh, that back can't take 500lb lifts anymore?  :thewife:

CR, -- Getting the Norge on the center stand should be easy for you, I'm 160 lbs and I don't have any trouble.  You must be doing something weird if its hurting you.

Here's what I do : 

1. Left hand on left handle bar grip
2. Right hand on passenger grab rail
3. LEFT foot on center stand lever (this puts your weight further out on the lever arm of the center stand, giving you more mechanical advantage)
4. Stand up straight ! (You are facing the bike)

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Re: Norge bending side stand (PICS) Fixed.
« Reply #103 on: March 03, 2016, 03:45:19 PM »
Both great tips above, also having it slightly rolling backwards to get some momentum makes putting it up on the center stand a piece of cake.  I'd recommend doing it with boots, not tennis shoes or sandals though...if your feet are killing you.
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Re: Norge bending side stand (PICS) Fixed.
« Reply #104 on: March 03, 2016, 05:08:01 PM »
What kind of oil have you been using?

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Re: Norge bending side stand (PICS) Fixed.
« Reply #105 on: March 03, 2016, 06:20:04 PM »
Procedure according to NP. I am also 160 pounds and it is not a problem getting on the center stand except when packed and stopping for fuel on an uneven or forward sloping surface. It is a bit more difficult than my T-3. For the most part I have more problem getting it off the center stand if on a relatively smooth surface. It just scoots forward. I have to put my foot in front of the stand to trip it.
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Re: Norge bending side stand (PICS) Fixed.
« Reply #106 on: March 04, 2016, 01:31:52 AM »
CR, -- Getting the Norge on the center stand should be easy for you, I'm 160 lbs and I don't have any trouble.  You must be doing something weird if its hurting you.

Here's what I do : 

1. Left hand on left handle bar grip
2. Right hand on passenger grab rail
3. LEFT foot on center stand lever (this puts your weight further out on the lever arm of the center stand, giving you more mechanical advantage)
4. Stand up straight ! (You are facing the bike)

What a simple solution!!
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