norge vs stelvio

[peter1]

Hello,

New here, on advice of a member off the advriderforum.
Subjectmatter already states my question.
How do the Norge and Stelvio compare?
Both bikes got my interest.
Problem cant testride either, will probably find a way to at least sit on both.
Which is superior for normal roadriding, sportiest, most fun in the twisties.
And next the ergonomics can you sit comfortable on the Norge if you are 1m85,read somewhere that the legroom is limited?

Thats about it, euh tell me what i forgot to ask.
Thx

[canuguzzi]

If you can't test ride a bike, don't buy it. JMHO.

Norge and Stelvio are two very different bikes. Like comparing a Honda ST1300 and a V-Strom, there isn't one.

Norge or Stelvio will do what you want.

[rocker59]

Which is superior for normal roadriding, sportiest, most fun in the twisties.
 

Norge.

[pyoungbl]

Which is superior for normal roadriding, sportiest, most fun in the twisties.
And next the ergonomics can you sit comfortable on the Norge if you are 1m85,read somewhere that the legroom is limited?

Thats about it, euh tell me what i forgot to ask.
Thx

I have owned both.  IMHO the Stelvio is better for roadriding, sport riding, and great fun in twisties.  The Norge is no slouch at any of these but I find the Stelvio to be better for me.  I'm 5' 11" (1.8 meter) and found that the Norge cramped my knees on a long trip.  I felt that I was sitting down IN the Norge, whereas I sit ON the Stelvio.  The Stelvio is a tall bike so I have the seat in the low position.  I would recommend the Norge for a shorter person.  The Stelvio is also easier to work on because there is less plastic to remove.  On the other hand, that same plastic makes the Norge a prettier bike and probably much more aerodynamic.  The newer Norge seems to manage heat much better than the Stelvio, due to the head guards.  You really need to ride each, they are very different machines.

Peter Y.

[jdgretz]

The Norge is a Sport-Touring style of bike and you are a bit leaned forward - not much, but a bit.  The Stelvio is more of the Adventure style of bike and thus you tend to sit up straighter.  Same holds true for both your hips and knees.

I own and love a Norge - best bike I've ever owned.  I've ridden the Stelvio and it is very comfortable, but I prefer the Norge.  Both bikes will handle your preferences, but you really do not want to take the Norge off road.  Then again, taking any 600lbs bike off road is a bit much if you have to pick it up by yourself in the mud.

Check http://cycle-ergo.com/ to get an idea of how you will fit on each.  You really need to take a ride on them to know for sure.

jdg

[lost]

They are two completely different bikes. The Norge [my choice] is comfortable for me [ I'm 6 ft 240 lb with 30" inseam]. It is great on twisties and fantastic on highway. The leaning forward only bothered me a little until I got used to it. Legs are bent but not stressed but there is also no alternate position other than standing if the legs get cramped. Still I love it. The Stelvio is a little taller and is meant for adventure riding. Does come with bigger gas tank which is a plus. Not as aerodynamic but is easier to work on due to less plastic. That also equates to less protection in inclement weather.

Try both out and pick. Don't buy any bike you can't try out.

[Cool Runnings]

Hello,

New here, on advice of a member off the advriderforum.
Subjectmatter already states my question.
How do the Norge and Stelvio compare?
Both bikes got my interest.
Problem cant testride either, will probably find a way to at least sit on both.
Which is superior for normal roadriding, sportiest, most fun in the twisties.
And next the ergonomics can you sit comfortable on the Norge if you are 1m85,read somewhere that the legroom is limited?

Thats about it, euh tell me what i forgot to ask.
Thx

For me it was the Norge bc they offered me a new 2014 for 12k.

Legroom is the problem (34" inseam), put on a custom Russell day long seat and will add KD lowering pegs in spring.

Never ridden a Stelvio.

[Dilliw]

For me it was the Norge bc they offered me a new 2014 for 12k.

Legroom is the problem (34" inseam), put on a custom Russell day long seat and will add KD lowering pegs in spring.

Never ridden a Stelvio.

They are $11k now and I almost bought one Saturday.  Still might!

[PJPR01]

Hello,

New here, on advice of a member off the advriderforum.
Subjectmatter already states my question.
How do the Norge and Stelvio compare?
Both bikes got my interest.
Problem cant testride either, will probably find a way to at least sit on both.
Which is superior for normal roadriding, sportiest, most fun in the twisties.
And next the ergonomics can you sit comfortable on the Norge if you are 1m85,read somewhere that the legroom is limited?

Thats about it, euh tell me what i forgot to ask.
Thx

Might also help to know what you're riding now, your riding level, how much inclination you have to lean and scrape...

Stelvio is a more upright riding position, older Norge 2V is more leaned forward, newer Norge 4V is more upright (essentially Heli Bars changed dynamics for riding position equivalent).  You can gain some knee room by changing the stock pegs on the Norge or Stelvio to Goldwing 1800 pegs, flatter, broader and thinner to provide a bit of extra knee stretch.

An experienced rider can make either dance in the twisties...also depends on whether you're looking for anything that is lightly dual sport, as the Norge is not and has no sump protection so the oil pan can puncture easily, while the Stelvio has a skid plate.

Both are great bikes, I prefer my Norge, but find the Stelvio to be a very attractive but different geometry/use type of bike.

[Travlr]

Do you like a Breva or Griso?

Norge is based on the Breva platform.
Stelvio is based on the Griso platform.

M

[Vasco DG]

Do you like a Breva or Griso?

Norge is based on the Breva platform.
Stelvio is based on the Griso platform.

M

Errr. No. Stelvio and Griso are entirely different apart from the motive package.

pete

[WitchCityGuzzi]

Stelvio.

There's nothing the Norge can do that the Stelvio can't. There's plenty the Stelvio can do that the Norge can't.

[kingoffleece]

Ridden both-bought the Norge.  Not better, just different.  I wanted a road bike.
I solved the legroom issue by rebuilding my seat-which I would have done anyway as I do that for all my bikes.

The motor is a treat to use.  It has a great cadence.  Quick, but not really fast, and that's fine.  Both are very quick in the twisties in the right hands.

[Gliderjohn]

IMHO the Norge is very capable in the twisties but it takes some effort due to it's size and weight. I see that as a benefit as it burns off more calories. 
GliderJohn

[canuguzzi]

My wife and I found the Stelvio more comfortable.
I am allergic to the amount of plastic on the Norge.
And since I often find myself on gravel and dirt paths, the Stelvio is more suited to me.
I've only ever passed Norges on twisty mountain roads. Never had one pass me. So no idea how a Norge handles.

That is because the Norge's were on their way back having already been there.

[Vagrant]

They are $11k now and I almost bought one Saturday.  Still might!

go for it George. I want to see you put a 15 gallon gas tank on it.

[Dilliw]

go for it George. I want to see you put a 15 gallon gas tank on it.

I think Kim was allergic to all of the plastic or it would have come home!  I was hoping I could use it as a replacement for the EV but that bike won't do it.  That's a lot of bike for that price though and it would make a nice mount for just me...

[Scott of the Sahara]

Big question. How tall are you? What is your inseam? The Norge fits me perfectly. I would need to keep a small stool to get down off of the Stelvio. Can you put both feet down when stopped? do you want to? Tall people prefer Stelvio. Shorter folks like the Norge.

[canuguzzi]

No matter which one, the engine is marvelous. There is faster, quicker and all that but none better. If as you state you can't test ride but are comfortable buying anyway, get the one that fits you best, either will do what you want,

The huge grin will be the same no matter which one you get.

[Doppelgaenger]

If you have long legs you're going to be cramped on the Norge. I own the Breva 1100 which is just a naked Norge. The ergos of the bike are very nice except for the cramped leg position, which doesn't bother me much since I'm only 5'7".

I'd never buy a Stelvio or any of the behemoth ADV bikes because the reach to the ground is too far for my 31" inseam, and the bikes are too heavy. I had more trouble keeping my old SV650 upright than the Breva, even though the Breva is about 100 lbs heavier.

Ewan McGregor has signed up with Guzzi to do a panamerican trip (AK to cape horn) like Long Way Round and Long Way Down, which he is sure to do on the Stelvio. I don't know if this is going to be another Long Way series though since Charley Boorman hasn't signed up yet. Hopefully that will happen this year.

The engines on the new versions of both will be the same (8v 1200cc). The Norge can be bought used with the 1100cc engine which is what I have. It's an absolute treat of an engine which likes to be revved out and rewards you for doing so. The gearbox on the bikes is also incredible. I've never gotten a false neutral in 12000 miles of riding. It's a loud box, but you always know what is happening.

[Zoom Zoom]

Had a Norge. Liked it but you are locked into one riding position. Traded it for a Stelvio. More leg room, just more comfortable for me. Plus, I seek out dirt roads, which I never would have done with the Norge. No regrets.

John Henry

[kingoffleece]

So, you get the picture, correct? Both a fine machines.

[JeffOlson]

I have never ridden the Stelvio, but I have sat on one. It seems very comfortable and has great legroom. However, I am only 5'10" (on a good day, and only in the morning before I have shrunk!). The reach to the ground is concerning. If I were over 6' tall, I would probably go for the Stelvio for the added legroom. However, I am short (and stout), so the Norge fits me better. Plus, I like the look of the Norge better!

PS: You can get a new Norge for thousands less than a new Stelvio.