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Win10 question
« on: January 13, 2016, 12:00:55 PM »
I am thinking about updating my Lenovo T410 to Win10, it has 7 Pro on it now. I also dual boot to Ubuntu. It has a "recovery" partition on it for Win7, if I update to 10 will it update the "recovery" partition? If not how do I get rid of that partition to recover the space on the hard drive.
Thanks in advance for advice on this as I know just enough about these things to be really dangerous!

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Re: Win10 question
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2016, 12:04:52 PM »
As far as I know, the recover partition remains untouched.

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Re: Win10 question
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2016, 12:42:44 PM »
One screw and a wee tug and the hard drive is removed. I have the same laptop, Win10 on the original drive, Ubuntu on a spare laptop drive I had hanging around. Hard drives are cheap enough (Guzzi content) now that I just swap drives.
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Re: Win10 question
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2016, 06:42:19 PM »
I am thinking about updating my Lenovo T410 to Win10, it has 7 Pro on it now. I also dual boot to Ubuntu. It has a "recovery" partition on it for Win7, if I update to 10 will it update the "recovery" partition? If not how do I get rid of that partition to recover the space on the hard drive.
Thanks in advance for advice on this as I know just enough about these things to be really dangerous!

It will not update the recovery partition unless you do a full clean install and remove that partition from the disk. The update only occurs within the active Windows partition. You may need to update your boot manager, though.

That being said, I DO NOT recommend updating a T410 to Win10. Many of the ThinkVantage utilities and drivers for that model are not available for Windows 10 at this time; for example, the driver for the webcam (if your model has one) does not work reliably in Win8 or Win10. I have three ThinkPads, and used to have a T520 until recently (one or two generations newer than yours). I have been testing Win10 on these machines, but the ones I use for real work have been frozen at Win7 x64 (Pro or Ultimate), other than a X220 running Win8.1 x64 Pro.

Also, you didn't mention whether you are upgrading from Win7 Home, Pro, or...? If Home, remember that you need to take some extraordinary steps to configure the system to maintain privacy and control - most of these are mentioned or linked to in previous Win10 discussions here.

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Re: Win10 question
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2016, 08:20:18 AM »
Thanks ItSec, that is the best advice I have seen. It is Win7 Pro (x64) that is on the machine. Think It will just stay that way. :thumb:

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Re: Win10 question
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2016, 11:21:23 AM »
I have a Lenovo w520 that came out about a year after yours.  I've been able to upgrade it from Win7 -> Win 8 -> win 8.1 -> Win 10 all x64 Pro versions.  As for the Lenovo apps, there are really only 2 that I reinstalled, the finger print reader and the hard drive fall sensor thing.  The other devices all found the drivers needed to run without Lenovo.  As for the recovery partition I jettisoned that when I upgraded to 10 (however I had an installation disk from my MSDN subscription so I was given some options to reformat the drive that I have not seen on the automated upgrades).  I have seen a few upgrades on computers I thought would be less than capable and they are running surprisingly well.

Even on my old laptop, I can still run Visual Studio 2015 with an enormous solution and simultaneously run a few virtual machines, but that is with a number of upgrades to memory and solid state drives. 

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Re: Win10 question
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2016, 12:18:31 PM »
I have removed several of the Lenovo apps as more trouble than what they were worth. I am quite comfortable with 7 and experimenting with 10 on my desktop. Not real enthusiastic with 10 so far but want to keep both machines with the same OS. Thanks for the input.
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Re: Win10 question
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2016, 08:29:39 PM »
My Sony VAIO had Win7 Pro and upgraded toWin10 easily and is running well (it is what I am typing on now).  I've upgraded 4 so far and all are running as well or better than Win7. The wife upgraded her Win8 machine and then went back toWin8 cause she liked that interface better.
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Re: Win10 question
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2016, 02:53:36 PM »
I have a Lenovo w520 that came out about a year after yours.  I've been able to upgrade it from Win7 -> Win 8 -> win 8.1 -> Win 10 all x64 Pro versions.  As for the Lenovo apps, there are really only 2 that I reinstalled, the finger print reader and the hard drive fall sensor thing.  The other devices all found the drivers needed to run without Lenovo.  As for the recovery partition I jettisoned that when I upgraded to 10 (however I had an installation disk from my MSDN subscription so I was given some options to reformat the drive that I have not seen on the automated upgrades).  I have seen a few upgrades on computers I thought would be less than capable and they are running surprisingly well.

Even on my old laptop, I can still run Visual Studio 2015 with an enormous solution and simultaneously run a few virtual machines, but that is with a number of upgrades to memory and solid state drives.

The T and W series (basically the same machines with some feature differences) had a big break between the x10 (410, 510, etc) and the x20 (420, 520 series). The core motherboard system changed to Sandy Bridge or later support chips, several component suppliers changed, and so on. As a result, a unit like the W520 will update much more smoothly than a W510; a T430 will update more cleanly than a T410. Been there, done that. Unless there is a driving reason to update these older systems, the ThinkVantage utilities (many not compatible under Win8 or Win10) give a basis for maintaining their current configuration. On machines I have updated, I miss the much better power management and particularly the wireless network management provided by Lenovo, which were far better than anything from MS in any version of Windows. Win8/Win10 wireless management is abysmal!

My W510 (Win7 x64 Ultimate) is used for network modelling (among other things) and security testing; 16 GB ram and a quad-core i7 lets me run several VMs under VirtualBox to simulate an environment and monitor the security of system to system communication.
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