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"Why doesn't Guzzi make a modern T3?"-Because they'd sell 50."Why doesn't Guzzi design an entirely new engine, mount Ohlins front and rear, put it in the V7 and charge $6,000 for it?"(asked by every Guzzi rider who hasn't bought a new motorcycle in the last 40 years.)-Because....don't be stupid."Why don't the V7 and V9 have radial sport bike tires?"-Because the bikes have 40hp, they're retro/vintage standards and they wouldn't suit the bikes any more than spooning knobbies on them would."Why doesn't Guzzi listen to us? Why are they making a Sportster knock off instead of what WE want?"(again....asked by every Guzzi rider who hasn't bought a new motorcycle in the last 40 years.)-1)You fuckers don't buy new Guzzis so go back to discussing your love of steel cut oats(a real, incredibly long thread on a Guzzi forum)-2)Pick any major city in the US. Harley sells more Sportsters in that one city than Guzzi sells total bikes, worldwide. Getting just a fraction of a percentage of that market niche could easily double Guzzis sales.-3)Guzzi is not a museum dedicated to the mastubatory delights of grizzled old fuckers WHO DO NOT BUY NEW BIKES. It's a business.The V7 and V9 capitalize on the retro/vintage market urge without requiring large investment from Guzzi. It's an incremental market plan that makes sense for a firm that has teetered on the brink of collapse for 95 years. I'd have loved it if the V9 Bobber had 60-70 hp(like a 1200 Sportster). I understand why it doesn't though.
John in VT used to be a regular here.
"...-1)You f****** don't buy new Guzzis so go back to discussing your love of steel cut oats(a real, incredibly long thread on a Guzzi forum)"Now wait just a minute! That crosses the line!!!!You'd do well to try a hot bowl of steel-cut oats!.
Whilst I'm sure there exists a good market in Harley clones any brand with any credibility needs to preserve its own identity. For Guzzi that means always offering a at least one bike like the Griso
I've been pondering another bike for a while now so I guess I am "the problem." I did try to go to the dealer and buy one but it's hard to do when you know that there are excellent, low miles bikes out there that can be had for half price. And that's half of the discounted price on holdover bikes; the dealer near me has one '13 and two '14 Norge still sitting in his shop. I guess we've just been conditioned to eat steal cut oats and bottom feed Guzzi bikes!
A lot of insults around lately and knocking people for not buying new bikes, being criminals when legally trying to obtain a titles, etc. What's going on?....If they can't make it, not my problem. I'll happily stick with my vintage Moto Guzzi, which is exactly what I wanted. If I wanted a new one, I would have bough a new one.I need my coffee now, I'm cranky
A lot of insults around lately and knocking people for not buying new bikes, being criminals when legally trying to obtain a titles, etc. What's going on?I joined this forum to get some questions answered on restoring an old Moto Guzzi, and it's been great. Now all of a sudden a lot of accusations of us bringing the Moto Guzzi company down to its knees because the x-number or people here don't buy new, really?It's not my job to keep Guzzi alive and well. I don't get a paycheck, no royalties, nothing. Does anyone here?If they can't make it, not my problem. I'll happily stick with my vintage Moto Guzzi, which is exactly what I wanted. If I wanted a new one, I would have bough a new one.I need my coffee now, I'm cranky
From the advrider thread by rocker59: <<When the V7s get the new engine for 2017, your choice may be easier.>>What is the source or rationale for this prediction? Why would Guzzi spend the resources to develop a brand new platform (the V9s), then turn around and cannibalize its sales by dropping its motor into a predecessor model?
I think the insults in this case are being cast towards those who don't buy new Guzzis (and probably never will) BUT WHO FEEL THE NEED TO CONSTANTLY WHINE ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY AREN'T BEING CATERED TO.Feel free to never buy a new one. But a purchases are voting with your dollars and if you don't vote, don't bitch.
Just a newbie here, but feel right at home.Bought a '96 EV11 cheap.Ride a (cheap) KLR650 the rest of the time.Got over that new bike depreciation thing about 12 years ago, don't really see going back - however the Royal Enfield Himalayan that's getting introduced tomorrow has me interested.Now, the steel cut oats thing - no thanks.