NGC - there's just something nice about analog stuff ... Pioneer entry level

[kirkemon]

OK - old school rules. But I'd like a few DMI inputs

[BRIO]

Italian analog...

[HardAspie]

I believe that the first car int he world with EFI was the Volkswagen Type 3 and its EFI was analog.

[HardAspie]

Good!

An unstirred pot is full of. . .  nah that ain't it
An unstirred pot falls from. . .nope not that either
An unstirred pot gathers, what does it gather? ... no
Well and unstirred pot does something lamentable so keep stirring.

[kirby1923]

This. It's the same between fuel injection and carbs. Yes, both will get it done, but there *is* a discernible difference with analog vs. digital. Color me analog. <shrug>

Me too!
Carbs work on the principles of physics and Bernoulli which has kept me aloft for quite some time thru thick and thin.
Electric (digital) carbs  ) use 0's and 1's.
Analog is..well elegant.

[HardAspie]

it might be naught but traces of the things of my time, but I am comfortable with analog and with mechanical systems. Some think I am a bit off plumb for wanting gravity fuel feed to a carburetor. I well may be. But I still want that simplicity in lieu of digitronic's endless string of incomprehensible devices.

[HardAspie]

and all you carb people should go back to points...

Anything else is pointless.

I actually would if possible.

[fossil]

BRIO - a Moog! My favourite keyboard player comes to mind - Keith Emerson. He also drives one of my all-time favourite bikes, the lovely Norton Commando.

[dguzzi]

Geez and I have been trying to sell 70's tuner/amp (Kenwood) and Sony reel to reel for a friend for over a year. I'm sure he would let them go very reasonable. We did sell his speakers and turntable (wish I had that now)  I also have Marantz cassette machine but it seems to need a rebuild.

[Dilliw]

I went from 8 tracks to cassettes to cd's so I don't have that emotional connection to records that some of you have.  The 8 tracks and cassettes went away a long time ago and I have ripped all of my cd's to FLAC along with the album artwork.  Between my collection and Spotify I guess I've gained a whole lot in terms of sounds and convenience but lost a whole lot in terms of touches and smells.

Now I'm playing the  hi-rez game with admittedly so so results.

Top end of my system is Foobar2000 in ASIO mode feeding a 9018K2M based DAC. 

[bigtex]

Whatever you do, don't run across your old Pioneer tape deck in a junk shop and be reminded how stunningly beautiful it was.  Because then you want one, and a receiver to play it, and the reel to reel you never had, ....

[kirby1923]

and all you carb people should go back to points...

Ha!
Tell you what I'm old enough to not be "afraid" of points. Got a couple of hundred K miles using them even my old Healey has 'em.
I can adjust them with a screw driver and a match book and change them on the side of the road in about 10 minutes.
mike

[HardAspie]

Ha!
Tell you what I'm old enough to not be "afraid" of points. Got a couple of hundred K miles using them even my old Healey has 'em.
I can adjust them with a screw driver and a match book and change them on the side of the road in about 10 minuets'.
mike

I have been let down on the road by digital systems that work perfectly until they don't. But I have never, ever, been left roadside by points. I think that is because if one just follows book service specifications including intervals one will rarely have a problem. But also, unlike digital that can simply stop at any time and require electronic diagnosis, points will start talking to you hundreds of miles before they fail. So, on that occasion in which the points are not going to make the service interval, take ten minutes and fix them up. I must say too that I always carried spares. I like them.

[Mark West]

If I had the bucks and space, I have neither, I would love:
Receiver: Pioneer SX 1250
Turntable: Sony PS 8750
Cartridge: Dunno: possibly an Ortofon
Tape: Pioneer CT 1250
Other processing: SAE 5000 Impulse Noise Reducer
Speakers: Klipschorn

Ha! That will be the day.
Happy with my GE "Thingie".

I had an SX-1250 for a while. What a beast. Weighing ~60 pounds and being wider and deeper than almost anything else meant it was hard to find a home for. I ran two pairs of JBL L100's off it and it could blow the roof off the house with a good rock record. I played with it for a few years and sold it on CL for 400 bucks. I had paid 80 at a salvation army store so a good deal for both of us.

Don't think it would work well with klipschorns though. They are designed for low power tube amps and the massive power from the 1250 would be wasted on them.

[Shorty]

I gave my son what was left of my old Marantz system, and vinyl recordings. All but my John Mayall records. He has to wait til I croak for those.  Also gave him most of my weapons and ammo. He probably thinks I'm terminal, lol.

[Mark West]

My current system is a Kenwood KR7600 receiver driving JBL L-100's and a recently acquired pair of DCM CX-17 monitors. For sources I have two turntables; Thorens TD145 for good vinyl and a Philips belt drive (not the famous one with capacitive switches), and a 1980 era Yamaha cassette deck. The only modern part is a USB sound card for ripping vinyl to digital.

In the garage a Marantz 2020 given to me by a bay area guzzi friend and a pair of late 70's marantz speakers that have had the surrounds replaced. Source is a yamaha cd changer and my iphone.

Vintage rules!

[BRIO]

BRIO - a Moog! My favourite keyboard player comes to mind - Keith Emerson. He also drives one of my all-time favourite bikes, the lovely Norton Commando.

He plays the big ones that look like a flight engineer panel. Pretty impressive. Are you familiar with these? Electric keyboard anno 1974

[HardAspie]

I had an SX-1250 for a while. What a beast. Weighing ~60 pounds and being wider and deeper than almost anything else meant it was hard to find a home for. I ran two pairs of JBL L100's off it and it could blow the roof off the house with a good rock record. I played with it for a few years and sold it on CL for 400 bucks. I had paid 80 at a salvation army store so a good deal for both of us.

Don't think it would work well with klipschorns though. They are designed for low power tube amps and the massive power from the 1250 would be wasted on them.

It would be fine with the KHorns. Sure it would run at very low power, but the headroom woulld be unbelievable, and the 1250 has such clarity and a pre amp stage with variable cutoff frequency HF and LF capability and real Fletcher - Munson loudness curve tone controls and the combo would be fantastic.

[Chuck in Indiana]

I have been let down on the road by digital systems that work perfectly until they don't. But I have never, ever, been left roadside by points. I think that is because if one just follows book service specifications including intervals one will rarely have a problem. But also, unlike digital that can simply stop at any time and require electronic diagnosis, points will start talking to you hundreds of miles before they fail. So, on that occasion in which the points are not going to make the service interval, take ten minutes and fix them up. I must say too that I always carried spares. I like them.

Absolutely. That's why you don't see airplane engines with electronic ignition.

[Chuck in Indiana]

I guess I've gained a whole lot in terms of sounds

Maybe quantity, but *not* quality. 

[HardAspie]

Absolutely. That's why you don't see airplane engines with electronic ignition.

Desackly!

[TodkaVonic]

Hey I just picked up one of these

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gramovox/floating-recordtm-vertical-turntable

It works fairly well as an all-in-one system for a smaller room. It's not for the audiophile, not by a long-shot, but pretty cool nonetheless.

Also, check out

http://vinylmeplease.com

It's a record club. Remember those? I've been a member for going on two years. If you look back through the albums they've sent out, you'll get an idea of what to expect should you join.

[HardAspie]

With speakers in same enclosure as tone arm base how do they avoid microphonic effect?

[HardAspie]

there does seem to be underlying qualities amongst the guzzisti.  doesnt surprise me there are a lot of pilots, and beer lovers, and tube amp stereo lovers, classic car lovers, and watch lovers..  it all goes with the territory.

I think you are on to something,

Watches! I have an inexpensive "Zavtra" (faux Russian brand, mechanical with a Sea-Gull TY 3600 movement (17J, no auto wind, HMS only with second hand at 9 o'clock position - 36 series movements are pocket watch) under mineral glass clear back. Seems to keep time within COSC specs...but since Chinese no COSC!

Lover of French cars.

Aviation enthusiast but the finances outclimbed my earning potential.

Love Guzzi but cannot afford, but love this forum and plan on a very very simple bike soon.

[HardAspie]

i want a sea gull

I will give that marque a strong recommendation. Mine keeps great time and looks great too - okay the Zavtra case is a bit bulky - but the movement is just downright pretty...if not baroque. I think this is the official US website:

http://usseagull.com/index.asp

Lookee this one: http://usseagull.com/EnProductShow.asp?ClassID=57&ID=93

[TodkaVonic]

With speakers in same enclosure as tone arm base how do they avoid microphonic effect?

I think that that's not an issue since this is solid state and not a vacuum tube system. There is a very, very slight hum that's inaudible with any volume whatsoever from the speakers. Like I said, it's not an audiophile-level system, but a novel and relatively inexpensive all-in-one.

Addendum:
Wait, you're talking about interference between speakers and needle...no idea how they got around that. Seems to work pretty well though, for smaller spaces.

[HardAspie]

I think that that's not an issue since this is solid state and not a vacuum tube system. There is a very, very slight hum that's inaudible with any volume whatsoever from the speakers. Like I said, it's not an audiophile-level system, but a novel and relatively inexpensive all-in-one.

I was thinking the cartridge.

[TodkaVonic]

I was thinking the cartridge.

See above. Did this site just crash?

[HardAspie]

See above. Did this site just crash?

I think it did. I hope it was wearing a Snell full face and leathers.

[TodkaVonic]

I think it did. I hope it was wearing a Snell full face and leathers.

Ha!