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Re: You can't hide from the new MGX...run sissy run!
« Reply #60 on: February 25, 2016, 05:24:34 AM »
The fairing is what undermines it. Sorta reminds me of the Vetter Winged fairing of the nineties:



I didn't care for that look, either...

Yeah, the sculptured look to the fairing really sucks. 

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Re: You can't hide from the new MGX...run sissy run!
« Reply #61 on: February 25, 2016, 11:34:34 AM »
Maybe just slightly less ugly than the Virago cruisers.  My motorcycle re-entry bike, a 1983 Virago 750.  Perhaps the originator of the FWP style fuel tank (thank you, John in Vt, for that description.)  I installed lower, more forward bars, and footpeg mounts that brought them back several inches.  For all its appearance issues, it was a sweet running bike.



I get it that some people think a Virago was ugly, but you do realize that is very subjective. Check out the sales numbers, a buttload of people thought they looked just fine. I've had 2, and they were light feeling, comfy, wide torque band on a smooth engine. And the best stock cruiser seat I've ever found. Early ones had a single major flaw, the crap starting system (250 dollar upgrade). They were fun and well worth it. For the record, I liked it's looks from the get-go, until they eventually tried to out glitz everything.
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Re: You can't hide from the new MGX...run sissy run!
« Reply #62 on: February 25, 2016, 12:11:48 PM »
wouldn't it be funny to find out that in the design offices where these decisions are being made, some staffer is on this forum, tracking wild guzzi's reaction to these design initiatives.

I envision this staffer walking into a conference room with a 1/2 dozen people pouring over drawings...they look up as the staffer enters, closes the door behind them and says to the assembled, "they hate it"

At which point everyone at the table smiles and the head designer says, "excellent, team, we're on to something."
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Re: You can't hide from the new MGX...run sissy run!
« Reply #63 on: February 25, 2016, 01:21:12 PM »
wouldn't it be funny to find out that in the design offices where these decisions are being made, some staffer is on this forum, tracking wild guzzi's reaction to these design initiatives.

I envision this staffer walking into a conference room with a 1/2 dozen people pouring over drawings...they look up as the staffer enters, closes the door behind them and says to the assembled, "they hate it"

At which point everyone at the table smiles and the head designer says, "excellent, team, we're on to something."

This sounds about right  :wink:

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Re: You can't hide from the new MGX...run sissy run!
« Reply #64 on: February 25, 2016, 02:56:08 PM »
Moto Guzzi Testarossa?

Pluses:
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  • Emphasize a nice looking engine
  • Pegs rather than boards

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  • How many 'make-pretty' bikes are we getting on the same platform (Eldorado, Audace and now this)?
  • Disco front wheel - try passing a semi in a cross-wind and see what your steering does
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Re: You can't hide from the new MGX...run sissy run!
« Reply #65 on: February 25, 2016, 06:03:46 PM »
I really really liked the look until I saw how foot forward it was.  Takes all the sport out and kills my coccyx.  If this was a neutral position bike I would be in love.
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Re: You can't hide from the new MGX...run sissy run!
« Reply #66 on: February 25, 2016, 06:12:42 PM »
Ugly bike and it looks just as ugly in person.
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Re: You can't hide from the new MGX...run sissy run!
« Reply #67 on: February 25, 2016, 06:29:43 PM »
I don't care for the brooding bagger look, overweight, ill proportioned, pseudo tough guy image, and most of all because they seem to attract douche bags like this guy, though he is likely a genuine looser tough guy.


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Re: You can't hide from the new MGX...run sissy run!
« Reply #68 on: February 25, 2016, 07:17:04 PM »
I suspect that this is a "halo" bike...primary purpose is to generate brand excitement and walk-in traffic to dealers...they come to gawk at the FF, and leave with a V7....hopefully

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Re: You can't hide from the new MGX...run sissy run!
« Reply #69 on: February 25, 2016, 07:19:57 PM »
I suspect that this is a "halo" bike...primary purpose is to generate brand excitement and walk-in traffic to dealers...they come to gawk at the FF, and leave with a V7....hopefully

Okay, cool. At first glance I thought that by "halo" you meant the idea was to push them out of airplanes.
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Re: You can't hide from the new MGX...run sissy run!
« Reply #70 on: February 25, 2016, 07:28:46 PM »
Okay, cool. At first glance I thought that by "halo" you meant the idea was to push them out of airplanes.

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Re: You can't hide from the new MGX...run sissy run!
« Reply #71 on: February 25, 2016, 08:07:25 PM »
I don't care for the brooding bagger look, overweight, ill proportioned, pseudo tough guy image, and most of all because they seem to attract douche bags like this guy, though he is likely a genuine looser tough guy.



Not for nothing, but do you know this guy?

Cause I've met a ton, and MOST are far from DBs.

Yeah, some aren't the brightest crayons in the box.

Yeah, some are overthrown kids.

But most are just trying to be different from what they perceive as average, boring, whatever. And MOST were genuinely nice people when you met them.

So hell, if they're willing to deal with the lifestyle, and that appeals to you, then go for it. I'm not gonna assume you're a douche unless you act like one.
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Re: You can't hide from the new MGX...run sissy run!
« Reply #72 on: February 25, 2016, 08:11:45 PM »
Not for nothing, but do you know this guy?

Cause I've met a ton, and MOST are far from DBs.

Yeah, some aren't the brightest crayons in the box.

Yeah, some are overthrown kids.

But most are just trying to be different from what they perceive as average, boring, whatever. And MOST were genuinely nice people when you met them.

So hell, if they're willing to deal with the lifestyle, and that appeals to you, then go for it. I'm not gonna assume you're a douche unless you act like one.

 Besides , I can outrun that guy  :evil:

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« Reply #73 on: February 25, 2016, 09:20:36 PM »
"A halo vehicle (or halo model) in automobile marketing is one designed and marketed to showcase the talents and resources of the manufacturers and to promote sales of other vehicles within a marque. Car companies often design a special vehicle, usually a luxury or sports model, with the hope that customers will come to dealerships to see it, but will buy other more practical vehicles instead. The classic case is the Chevrolet Corvette, which changed the image of Chevrolet of the 1950s from one of mainstream practicality to desirable sportiness. Such models are intended to shine a positive light on the manufacturer, and generate a positive buzz in the press and among consumers."

Source: automobile.wikia.com/wiki/Halo_vehicle

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Re: You can't hide from the new MGX...run sissy run!
« Reply #74 on: February 25, 2016, 09:47:40 PM »
Not for nothing, but do you know this guy?

Cause I've met a ton


so that means you have met five of them?  sorry couldn't resist :grin:

Guys in colours usually have supported themselves by dealing drugs, guns, running prostitution and extortion, other than that they may actually be nice guys, I personally have not me a ton of them, maybe no more than fifty

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Re: You can't hide from the new MGX...run sissy run!
« Reply #75 on: February 25, 2016, 10:10:01 PM »
Not for nothing, but do you know this guy?

Cause I've met a ton, and MOST are far from DBs.

Yeah, some aren't the brightest crayons in the box.

Yeah, some are overthrown kids.

But most are just trying to be different from what they perceive as average, boring, whatever. And MOST were genuinely nice people when you met them.

So hell, if they're willing to deal with the lifestyle, and that appeals to you, then go for it. I'm not gonna assume you're a douche unless you act like one.
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Re: You can't hide from the new MGX...run sissy run!
« Reply #76 on: February 25, 2016, 10:46:30 PM »
Not for nothing, but do you know this guy?
But most are just trying to be different from what they perceive as average, boring, whatever. And MOST were genuinely nice people when you met them.

At least two and sometimes three of those goofs are my brothers. And not the pandering, pathetic "I love you bro"... "we're all brothers" type of brothers but actual siblings.

The generally sad nature of proving that they are just as individualistic as the next guy down the bar at the "Iron Horse" is a level of paradox and irony that left humorous or sympathetic behind about 45 years ago.

Nope, clad a turd in gilding or leather and it's still a turd.

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A ton of them... 5? Now that's funny!

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Re: You can't hide from the new MGX...run sissy run!
« Reply #77 on: February 25, 2016, 10:52:06 PM »
Ha ha, a ton, 5... On that was kinda hilarious...

Point remains.

Look, no one here is perfect. And thinking we're "better than" usually doesn't end well... That's all I'm saying.

I'm not asking anyone here to befriend anyone they don't want to. Hell, I'm not saying I've got that much in common with em... Still. If they're happy and not harming anyone else, why care so much?
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Re: You can't hide from the new MGX...run sissy run!
« Reply #78 on: February 25, 2016, 10:55:33 PM »
wouldn't it be funny to find out that in the design offices where these decisions are being made, some staffer is on this forum, tracking wild guzzi's reaction to these design initiatives.

I envision this staffer walking into a conference room with a 1/2 dozen people pouring over drawings...they look up as the staffer enters, closes the door behind them and says to the assembled, "they hate it"

At which point everyone at the table smiles and the head designer says, "excellent, team, we're on to something."

Here you go! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzD47GSCRuM



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« Reply #79 on: February 25, 2016, 11:09:11 PM »
Beemer Boys designing their ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eZDb0RgfBA


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Re: You can't hide from the new MGX...run sissy run!
« Reply #80 on: February 25, 2016, 11:09:46 PM »
Ha ha, a ton, 5... On that was kinda hilarious...

Point remains.

Look, no one here is perfect. And thinking we're "better than" usually doesn't end well... That's all I'm saying.

I'm not asking anyone here to befriend anyone they don't want to. Hell, I'm not saying I've got that much in common with em... Still. If they're happy and not harming anyone else, why care so much?

I guess not "better" but rather more hygienic and lost posturing or pretentious than the middle of the road 'percenters.

Like I said, a couple-three of them and their gals o' the year are likely to be sitting across from me of the average Thanksgiving.

I get 'em, but cut 'em no slack in aggressive analysis of the chosen, projected life style. They fairly cry out for objective derision as a sign that they're "doin' it right".

Everyone's got a "thing", just some thrust it out there whether oriented through race, gender, nationality or "lifestyle". To decry a less than sympathetic perception speaks foul to the rights of others to dissent.

Offenses, real or imagined, be damned. Sometimes, the thinner skinned (1st, 2nd or 3rd party) should not be begging to be a socially evaluative tool or a tool at all. Doesn't mean we all need to tow the line but if one sets one's self deliberately outside the lines - to be identified as such in less than glowing or even "tolerant" terms is part of the load.

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Re: You can't hide from the new MGX...run sissy run!
« Reply #81 on: February 26, 2016, 02:15:18 AM »
"The classic case is the Chevrolet Corvette"

I think it's the Viper. They don't care if they sell 5 a year, it's only being made for PR. They sell more Corvettes in 6 months than all the Vipers ever made.
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Re: You can't hide from the new MGX...run sissy run!
« Reply #82 on: February 26, 2016, 07:03:10 AM »
I guess not "better" but rather more hygienic and lost posturing or pretentious than the middle of the road 'percenters.

Like I said, a couple-three of them and their gals o' the year are likely to be sitting across from me of the average Thanksgiving.

I get 'em, but cut 'em no slack in aggressive analysis of the chosen, projected life style. They fairly cry out for objective derision as a sign that they're "doin' it right".

Everyone's got a "thing", just some thrust it out there whether oriented through race, gender, nationality or "lifestyle". To decry a less than sympathetic perception speaks foul to the rights of others to dissent.

Offenses, real or imagined, be damned. Sometimes, the thinner skinned (1st, 2nd or 3rd party) should not be begging to be a socially evaluative tool or a tool at all. Doesn't mean we all need to tow the line but if one sets one's self deliberately outside the lines - to be identified as such in less than glowing or even "tolerant" terms is part of the load.

Todd.

I hear all that and don't argue with it.

Of course, the number of people who look like the earlier pic is quite a bit larger than the number who actually wear the diamond patch.
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Re: You can't hide from the new MGX...run sissy run!
« Reply #83 on: February 26, 2016, 07:43:01 AM »
so that means you have met five of them?  sorry couldn't resist :grin:

Guys in colours usually have supported themselves by dealing drugs, guns, running prostitution and extortion, other than that they may actually be nice guys, I personally have not me a ton of them, maybe no more than fifty

You're an ignorant putz. I earned my patch in 2007. I keep earning my patch by supporting my brothers. I've never engaged in the trades you mentioned. Many of my brothers ride 10,000 miles a year, and still work full time. Many own businesses as welders, fabricators, mechanics, contractors, etc. I was a computer consultant for 7 years, traveled many places doing so. Many are in small towns where they are the only one doing what they do, because it's not profitable for any chain to open up there. We do not seek your approval. But you will not like the results should you try to prevent me from living my life.

And I am below 300 pounds now!
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« Reply #84 on: February 26, 2016, 09:10:50 AM »
You're an ignorant putz.
And I am below 300 pounds now!

You have me confused with my brother (real one, no club affiliation), now he is a real putz, me, think mensch. I draw my opinions from my family and friends in law enforcement and their interactions with the red and black. Your experience is obviously different.
Personally I have nothing against patches, I earned a whole sleeve of them in the 60's, like the uniform but I outgrew the whole boy scout thing.

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Re: You can't hide from the new MGX...run sissy run!
« Reply #85 on: February 26, 2016, 10:51:31 AM »
 According to a biker name site , my club name would be 'Ol Boo Boo , my club would be the "Nutcrushers"   :laugh:

 "I can hear the Saturday afternoon discussion in the "Nutcrusher's" clubhouse , "'Ol Boo Boo you ignorant Putz , you haven't got a clue about what wine to serve with caviar."  "Well Mean Bob , at least I didn't serve red wine with that lovely chicken dinner prepared by your wife at our last dinner party , sheesh dude , what a faux pas"  :shocked: :grin:

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Re: You can't hide from the new MGX...run sissy run!
« Reply #86 on: February 26, 2016, 11:14:09 AM »
Having never ridden one, most having never sat on one, fewer yet willing to consider buying one the best thing is to bury it first before it becomes a magnet of potential MG buyers or; just imagine someone actually owning one and looking for a place to visit.

Where would they go? Maybe the BMW sites or a HD shop that is open 7 days a week?

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Re: You can't hide from the new MGX...run sissy run!
« Reply #87 on: February 26, 2016, 03:15:07 PM »
Too bad it doesn't still look like this:




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Re: You can't hide from the new MGX...run sissy run!
« Reply #88 on: February 26, 2016, 03:44:28 PM »
Too bad it doesn't still look like this:
 

I'd say that prototype to pre-production, and they've kept it close...





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