It followed me home...

[LowRyter]

When I test rode it, I never saw a check engine light.  I did notice the off throttle rumble.

[Huzo]

Mine didn't do it much, but I fixed it as soon as I recognised the problem.BTW, every time I see your bike I just know that if I'd never bought mine I'd be envious, not a bad position to be in. I've never had the "I wants" less than I now do. Does that make sense ?

[Huzo]

Sorry Lowryter Have I confused you with Two wings ?

[twowings]

LowRyter was my test rider as his superior knowledge and skills exceeded mine and I felt if he gave his stamp of approval, then I was on safe ground in making the purchase...clear as mud?  LOL

[ITSec]

Finally the stars aligned and the weather turned gorgeous for the last couple of days so the Norge got ridden, by golly! 

The thing is stable, smooth, pulls like a locomotive, cruises at 65 like it's loafing, and is a blast to ride...I'm very happy and anxious to put some serious mileage on the odo....one slight hiccup: after riding approximately 5 or more miles I get a Service Light....shut it down and wait a few the restart...Service Light is gone until 5-6 miles reached then comes one again...pulled the 30 amp fuse to reset but no help there...bike runs just fine so I made an appointment with Brookside MC to pull the codes and advise...I have GuzziDiag but not the cables...

Does anyone coming to Cedar Valley have a 2008 Norge 1200 map for stock exhaust ?  I have some popping on overrun which really doesn't concern me now, but I would like to be current on the map if needed....TIA!

As Huzo noted, these issues are related to a bad oil pressure sender, a bad connector at the top of the sensor, or both. In other threads, I have offered a simple kit to replace the wiring with a better setup that works with either the older design sensors or the ones now being shipped as replacements. I am getting ready to do another run of these; if you find that thread and follow its instructions, I can supply a kit to you free (as in beer). You are required to make a donation to keep this forum operating, but it's up to you to decide how big such a donations should be.

[oldbike54]

LowRyter was my test rider as his superior knowledge and skills exceeded mine and I felt if he gave his stamp of approval, then I was on safe ground in making the purchase...clear as mud?  LOL

 I was gonna make a comment about how to someone from NY all us Okies are the same , but maybe an Ozzie wouldn't get the reference 

 Dusty

[Huzo]

LowRyter was my test rider as his superior knowledge and skills exceeded mine and I felt if he gave his stamp of approval, then I was on safe ground in making the purchase...clear as mud?  LOL

Gotcha !

[Huzo]

As Huzo noted, these issues are related to a bad oil pressure sender, a bad connector at the top of the sensor, or both. In other threads, I have offered a simple kit to replace the wiring with a better setup that works with either the older design sensors or the ones now being shipped as replacements. I am getting ready to do another run of these; if you find that thread and follow its instructions, I can supply a kit to you free (as in beer). You are required to make a donation to keep this forum operating, but it's up to you to decide how big such a donations should be.

IT, I did my donation to the forum and most welcome too I might add. Am I ok to get your offering, or have I missed doing something. I'm happy to make another donation if required, in fact I probably will anyway. Thanx for your help in overcoming the Guzzi issue.

[Huzo]

I was gonna make a comment about how to someone from NY all us Okies are the same , but maybe an Ozzie wouldn't get the reference 

 Dusty

Look maybe not Oldie, but I get the style of comment.

[Muzz]

A nice looking bike sir!

AND in the fast RED colour!

[twowings]

Thank you, Muzz! 



Inquiring minds want to know...

First of all, big Thanks! to Eddie and Paul of Brookside MC in Tulsa for making a slot for me on Friday afternoon in the rush of spring MC season...(FYI, Brookside in Tulsa is the styling and profiling destination for all things transportative...th ink hot rods, customs, bikes, exotics, etc.)

Eddie initially verified updated MAP, reset the TPS and pulled two old codes from ECU: battery voltage (probably not uncommon for a used bike for sale)  and something about Lamda sensor and then cleared them....he rode bike and no Service Light ...buttoned things up and I left for a check ride...about 4 miles along the Service Light came on....went back to shop and Eddie hooked up to ECU and found no stored codes...consensus opinion was ride it and ignore light since everything else works like a charm...I mentioned that Internet Minds had decreed a possible problem with Oil Pressure Sensor and /or connection to same...they had previously service a Norge with the same symptoms but that bike had an flashing Immediate Service warning...my light just comes on and stays steady red...

So, I will try to find ITSec thread with hardware upgrade to oil pressure sensor and go from there...bike continues to run like a bat out of hell (at least for an old fart like me!) so I will soldier on to Cedar Vale!   

[LowRyter]

LowRyter was my test rider as his superior knowledge and skills exceeded mine and I felt if he gave his stamp of approval, then I was on safe ground in making the purchase...clear as mud?  LOL

gawd....talk about pressure.........

[twowings]

Really! Enough to drive a man to drink Scotch, eh?   

[oldbike54]

gawd....talk about pressure.........

 Yeah , let's hope it makes it to CV and back to Tulsa ...

 Dusty

[Huzo]

Thank you, Muzz! 



Inquiring minds want to know...

First of all, big Thanks! to Eddie and Paul of Brookside MC in Tulsa for making a slot for me on Friday afternoon in the rush of spring MC season...(FYI, Brookside in Tulsa is the styling and profiling destination for all things transportative...th ink hot rods, customs, bikes, exotics, etc.)

Eddie initially verified updated MAP, reset the TPS and pulled two old codes from ECU: battery voltage (probably not uncommon for a used bike for sale)  and something about Lamda sensor and then cleared them....he rode bike and no Service Light ...buttoned things up and I left for a check ride...about 4 miles along the Service Light came on....went back to shop and Eddie hooked up to ECU and found no stored codes...consensus opinion was ride it and ignore light since everything else works like a charm...I mentioned that Internet Minds had decreed a possible problem with Oil Pressure Sensor and /or connection to same...they had previously service a Norge with the same symptoms but that bike had an flashing Immediate Service warning...my light just comes on and stays steady red...

So, I will try to find ITSec thread with hardware upgrade to oil pressure sensor and go from there...bike continues to run like a bat out of hell (at least for an old fart like me!) so I will soldier on to Cedar Vale!

Mate, I'll bet my flat tappets that next time the light comes on, keep the bike at whatever speed you're doing say 100 kph, reach out and turnoff the key let the bike run with the key off for a few seconds then without opening the throttle turn the key back on, I'm damn well telling ya mate, the light will go out. It's the oil pressure switch, no doubt.

[CapitalGoose]

Congrats! 

[LowRyter]

Really! Enough to drive a man to drink Scotch, eh?   

so is the bike still running?  Pete Roper can give you the code to clear the symbol.

When I test rode the bike, that was thing I was looking for.  I rode it at least 5 or 6 miles on it.

[twowings]

Bike runs great!  Have to soften up the suspension a bit since I only weigh about 165 sopping wet...have new-style oil pressure sensor on the way, and ITSec has me down for a cabling kit..I'm not going to worry about the light as it seems most certainly to be the wonky connector to the sensor problem as described above...see you in CV!

[Huzo]

Just as an aside Wingy, when the dreaded triangle comes up, do you get any indication on the small rectangle panel where the useless information is normally displayed ?Mine gave the red triangle once on a trip to Ayers Rock, that's in the centre of Australia, how do you think that felt !!!? After I stopped panicking, next time the light showed up, I noticed it was after I had used the turn indicator, you don't use them much in Central Australia. It turns out that the red triangle was telling me that I had not replaced the wire on the right turn signal properly and a close look revealed a small light globe icon with a little arrow facing right on the panel. That was a few years ago, but I think I've got the relevant factors correct. BTW, I'd love it if some of the crappy useless info available on the panel was replaced with a distance to empty readout like my old Triumph Sprint ST had.

[Scott of the Sahara]

When I bought my '08, I had the option of getting an '07 in Red. I loved the color but the 07 had about 1500 miles and the '08 had 15 miles. It now has 27,000. I love the Red.

[twowings]

Me, too!  I passed on purchasing some equally nice Guzzis because I wanted Rosso...

[Huzo]

When I bought my '08, I had the option of getting an '07 in Red. I loved the color but the 07 had about 1500 miles and the '08 had 15 miles. It now has 27,000. I love the Red.

Yeah mine's red and it's got 92,000 on it , looks like it did at 5,000

[twowings]

Huzo:  I just get the light.....which makes me think you are correct in blaming the oil pressure sensor connection....oil level is and has always been good....

[Huzo]

Huzo:  I just get the light.....which makes me think you are correct in blaming the oil pressure sensor connection....oil level is and has always been good....

Yeah mate, just do it, she'll love ya for it !

[Huzo]

Hey two wings, just interested to see how you're getting on with your Norge ? Have your teething troubles disappeared and is she sleeping right through the night yet ????? How have your rides been ?

[twowings]

Light has disappeared and not returned in 900+ miles of trouble-free riding!  We both sleep VERY well these days, thank you for inquiring!

b

[Huzo]

What, if I may ask, was your final solution to the light issue ? Did you put in a new sensor or replace the wire connector or both ? Did it involve removing tank air box etc...?

[rocker59]

twowings,

Any idea if the guy you bought it from was the 1st or 2nd owner?  Did it come with the MGNOC sticker on the windscreen?

I'm wondering if it was Gordon's bike...

[LowRyter]

OK.  I think I can answer for 2w.

1.  Chris told me the Check Engine Light cured itself (to my relief, I had some guilt pains).

2.  I don't believe it's Gordon's bike.  I think it was a one-owner from OKC.  They guy had a reputation as keeping his bikes pristine (I don't know him but that was what the dealer said.  The bike is super clean and came with a cardboard box full of extras).  He also traded in a Breva that appeared just as clean if anyone is interested. 

[twowings]

1st and only other owner was not the person you mentioned...he kept meticulous records...MGNOC sticker is from my membership...I had/have this silly wild fantasy that I would/can ride to the National in John Day so I joined the Owner's Club...I do enjoy the newsletter...

The Check Engine Light disappeared on it's own after the ride to Cedar Vale, KS...oil level has remained consistent and bike running smooth as silk...I'd be out there riding it right now if my kid didn't have a dentist appointment this afternoon