V7 II comparo merged threadfest

[bpreynolds]

Ah, just forget it.  Buy a V7/V9.  There's your review.

[drlapo]

Good press?.
Dodgy electrics , "wallow" handling blues mufflers.
The V7 is dead last.
They didn't care for the triumph either and everyone else is praising it???

[cruzziguzzi]

While it was well written and generally informative and enjoyable to read, I'm left with the same two bones as with nearly every comparison that I have ever read in my entire life:

1. Comparison bikes begin the comparison in unequal states of preparedness.

Here we see things like incomplete or improper "set-up", bead batteries or almost deliverately, ill-adjusted controls. THis happens time and time again to at least one competitor in nearly every comparison.

I don't care if it comes down to dealers, loaners or "cold" acquisitions wherein the supplier does not know it's going to a comparison, if I'm gonna take on the task of comparing bikes I am going to take on the responsibility for a reasonable level of preparedness and equality as far as the state in which the bikes are presented.


2. The particular selections and usually lack of completeness thereof .

Normally it's the omissions which make me crazy but nearly as often it is the particularly chosen bikes in a "comparison" which leave me at best, disinterested.

Here's the point of that - I, Joe Snuffy, bike buyer am looking for a bike... a "retro" bike... These are not the 4 in contention.

OK, the Triumph and Guzzi are head-to-head for the most part but the Yamaha? Would this not be a Bolt? The Ducati is close but seems a version of the Monster is a better fit with the base bikes from Triumph/Guzzi.

Anyhow, that's both of my cents for now.



Todd.

[TobyJug]

I think it is.


http://www.visordown.com/road-tests/video-group-test-yamaha-xsr700-vs-ducati-scrambler-vs-bonneville-street-twin-vs-guzzi-v7-ii/31114.html

[kenvil1]

The good: "a genuine retro bike experience"; "the most characterful, authentic and charming bike."

The bad: "the most cumbersome and suffers from imprecise, nervy handling"; "was hard work at anything more than a sedate pace."

In the end: "The Guzzi is the one I would leave with"; "It's right that this edition is called the Special because that's how it feels."

[pikipiki]

OK, the Triumph and Guzzi are head-to-head for the most part but the Yamaha? Would this not be a Bolt? The Ducati is close but seems a version of the Monster is a better fit with the base bikes from Triumph/Guzzi.

No because the Bolt has not been designed with any of these bikes in mind. The Bolt is very clearly Yamaha take on a Harley Davidson 883. The xsr700 is Yamahas take on a Ducati Scrambler also considering other bikes from triumph and guzzi.

For what it's worth I like the Yamaha xsr heres a review which helps explain the difference between an xsr and mt07 which helps on considering whether the xsr is worth extra outlay over an mt07.

http://thebikeshed.cc/2015/11/11/yamaha-xsr700-built-to-be-taken-apart/

maybe its a european thing: custom and cafe are like onions and icecream. we dont compare or judge by the same standards although with the v9 Guzzi seem to be bluring the distinction