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Offline Mike Tashjian

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Re: Metal in Oil.....
« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2016, 06:59:58 AM »
Kick stand springs on my Stone would vibrate and sounded  like what you are describing. I wrapped one spring with some heat resistant wrap and all has been good.  Mike

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Re: Metal in Oil.....
« Reply #31 on: May 15, 2016, 07:13:02 AM »
Run your kickstand springs through rubber tubing and zip tie so it insulates.  That keeps them from making noise and worse -- rubbing through.

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Re: Metal in Oil.....
« Reply #32 on: May 15, 2016, 03:05:10 PM »
Chuck, yes it does, and not that I can see.

Side stand spring? Humm..Easy enough to check on my way home when the noise is there. At a light just kick it out and see if it goes away. That would be too nice and easy!

Thanks,
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Re: Metal in Oil.....
« Reply #33 on: May 15, 2016, 03:44:15 PM »
Chuck, yes it does, and not that I can see.

Side stand spring? Humm..Easy enough to check on my way home when the noise is there. At a light just kick it out and see if it goes away. That would be too nice and easy!

Thanks,
Tom

I chased an engine noise and vibration in the Strada for much longer than I would like to admit. I had a stethoscope all over it and couldn't find the source. I tore it down and balanced the whole rotating assembly. It was a harmonic in the crash bars.  :embarrassed:
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Re: Metal in Oil.....
« Reply #34 on: May 15, 2016, 04:59:51 PM »
I will look at that. Of all the bolts that I made sure were tight, the engine guard and frame bolts I did not check when I got the bike.

I tried the screwdriver technique. When I listened, it sounded like the back while I was in the front and vise-versa. I hate to pull a perfectly sealing timing cover. But I've tried almost everything to track it down. I'm sure that if it comes to that I will find nothing wrong, again only 15K miles.

After I try the last bolts and side stand. I may pull the fairing and ride it and see it it may be something with it. I've tried to think of the best way to describe the noise....The best I can say is that it sounds like something "rotating" and rattling against the case lightly. it makes it's sound and then pauses for a moment and then repeats. Checked inside engine via the pan and found nothing unusual. Clutch? As mentioned, couldn't get the sound to change via the clutch lever.

Thanks again!
Tom
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Offline Mr Revhead

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Re: Metal in Oil.....
« Reply #35 on: May 15, 2016, 05:08:07 PM »
I chased a noise on my Honda CX500 for some time....
Turned out it was the sunshade visor in my helmet...  :shocked:

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Re: Metal in Oil.....
« Reply #36 on: May 15, 2016, 05:14:43 PM »
Riding this weekend exposed a new metallic vibrating sound that increased with engine revs...Great! I thought, what's wrong now?

*DOH!* I had added a metal beer opener to my bike key ring for those back-at-camp emergency beverage situations...sure enough, it was laying just right to cause buzzing on the handlebar clamp...problem solved! Hope yours gets resolved, too... :thumb:

Offline Mr Revhead

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Re: Metal in Oil.....
« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2016, 01:06:38 AM »
Can anyone confirm for sure the correct rod BOLT torque setting is 60-65nm?


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Re: Metal in Oil.....
« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2016, 09:00:13 AM »
Can anyone confirm for sure the correct rod BOLT torque setting is 60-65nm?

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Re: Metal in Oil.....
« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2016, 09:15:51 AM »
^^^^
Engineering drawing in pen and ink.  :thumb: Another lost art.
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Re: Metal in Oil.....
« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2016, 12:56:31 PM »
I can still ink on linen but there's cad so there's no demand.
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Offline Mr Revhead

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Re: Metal in Oil.....
« Reply #41 on: June 25, 2016, 06:23:12 PM »
Ok time to update this.

I'd pulled the bearings and they were fine so ordered new ones.
Put them back in and due to being a bit of a knob, I misread the torque wrench and over torqued the bolts on the first rod. What a dick.  :violent1:
I decided better safe than sorry and ordered two new rod bolts. $51 each and 2-3 weeks ex Italy. Damn, Oh well.
So 5 weeks later they arrive  :thewife:
Put it back together yesterday and cranked it up.... It went! And kept going!
Rode it for 200km with no issues. The rattle I had heard is gone, confirming it was the loose muffler.
All is good in the world  :bike-037:
Except it's pissing down with rain today  :sad:

So, all I can put it down to is some random crap being stirred up by a slight oil over fill and a hard all day ride.

Thanks again to those who offered suggestions.

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Re: Metal in Oil.....
« Reply #42 on: June 25, 2016, 08:55:00 PM »
damn, all this for a loose muffler.

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Re: Metal in Oil.....
« Reply #43 on: June 26, 2016, 01:53:41 AM »
The rattle just made me suspicious, the metal in the oil made me scared, I've never ever found metal in the oil in anything I've owned that hasn't had a failure....

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