Author Topic: 2017 national rally? (Read 65709 times)

flip · « **Reply #120 on:** December 17, 2016, 11:25:25 PM »

Just about time to hear something...

Tom · « **Reply #121 on:** December 18, 2016, 02:37:29 PM »

Ask again, after the 1st of the year.

JJ · « **Reply #122 on:** December 19, 2016, 08:08:58 AM »

Quote from: Tom on December 18, 2016, 02:37:29 PM

Ask again, after the 1st of the year.

We should start a poll...and take bets on what section of the country it will be in...if at all! (LOL)

Lannis · « **Reply #123 on:** December 19, 2016, 11:06:43 AM »

Quote from: JJ on December 19, 2016, 08:08:58 AM

We should start a poll...and take bets on what section of the country it will be in...if at all! (LOL)

I'll tell you what we need, is someone to Organize It, with some of the following qualifications:

1) Is really enthusiastic about wanting to have a National

2) Is good at communicating and listening to people

3) Has wide experience with motorcycles, especially Guzzis

4) Has actual professional experience in the sport and hobby of motorcycling

5) Has shown he has an ability to persuade and convince folks to get together.

Hmm, now let's see, who can we think of? Wonder who that might be? "The Governor and ____"? That "Dynomite" dude? Let's think ...

Lannis

Tom · « **Reply #124 on:** December 19, 2016, 04:26:16 PM »

They also need the skills to organize and stage a large event. They would also have to gamble on how many would show up by footing the bill for deposit on a venue and/or catering. This would be the accolades of some and the complaints of others.

steveford · « **Reply #125 on:** December 19, 2016, 08:57:56 PM »

Quote from: JJ on October 03, 2016, 11:07:36 AM

Whether one is a member of MGNOC or not...or a member of WG or not...at the end of the day...it should always only be about "riding motorcycles and having fun..." (IMHO) :1:

So, where is the 2017 National Rally being held again? (LOL)

guzzi4me · « **Reply #126 on:** December 19, 2016, 11:02:50 PM »

Quote from: Lannis on December 19, 2016, 11:06:43 AM

I'll tell you what we need, is someone to Organize It, with some of the following qualifications:

1) Is really enthusiastic about wanting to have a National

2) Is good at communicating and listening to people

3) Has wide experience with motorcycles, especially Guzzis

4) Has actual professional experience in the sport and hobby of motorcycling

5) Has shown he has an ability to persuade and convince folks to get together.

Hmm, now let's see, who can we think of? Wonder who that might be? "The Governor and ____"? That "Dynomite" dude? Let's think ...

Lannis

DUSTY!!!!!!!!!

(running for cover now.......!!!!!!)

Jeff

oldbike54 · « **Reply #127 on:** December 20, 2016, 05:00:34 PM »

Quote from: guzzi4me on December 19, 2016, 11:02:50 PM

DUSTY!!!!!!!!!

(running for cover now.......!!!!!!)

Jeff

That will certainly reduce attendance

Dusty

Shorty · « **Reply #128 on:** December 20, 2016, 09:38:30 PM »

I know there is a "great divide" between MGNOC and WG, winky winky. And, I have not owned a Guzzi, nor been a MGNOC member for years. But, when Ava or my friends ask about my motorcycle buddies, I always say, "my club." It may not be completely accurate, but that is how I view it. WG is the club to me.

I do not agree that day visitors should be asked to pay a rally fee if they are only day tripping to see friends, and not recieving meals, camping or swag. I also agree that if you partake in the goods, you should pay. I know that some of us are very serious about MGNOC membership, and some of us ain't. No matter. We been sitting around this cyber fire for a lotta years, learning, laughing, enjoying the BS. I hope it stays that way.

Tom · « **Reply #129 on:** December 20, 2016, 10:24:08 PM »

Attending the National Rally and meeting up friends is part of the rally. The rally fee helps to defray the costs of the rally. Usually there is no net profit.

ChuckH · « **Reply #130 on:** December 21, 2016, 04:15:06 PM »

Quote from: Shorty on December 20, 2016, 09:38:30 PM

I know there is a "great divide" between MGNOC and WG, winky winky.....

I have never understood the relationship between the two organizations although I have been a member of MGNOC for the past several years and a contributing member to WG also. Now, since I no longer own a Guzzi, I will drop that membership but continue contributing to WG.

However, I expect to attend several Guzzi rallies in the coming year(s) because they are fun events and I enjoy meeting the people who will be there. I also attend annual MWMOA events for the same reasons. My riding calendar gets pretty full from late-April to early-November.

I am patiently waiting to see where the '17 Guzzi National will be held. Given reasonable health, I will attempt to be there. Hopefully, the timing for the event will not be in conflict with another long standing Guzzi Regional Rally.

Ride safe and have a Merry Christmas everyone.

oldbike54 · « **Reply #131 on:** December 21, 2016, 04:20:51 PM »

Chuck H , there is no official tie between WG and the MGNOC , just lots of overlap . We are all friends , well mostly

and both places perform a function . Hope to see you at Cedar Vale .

Dusty

Luap McKeever · « **Reply #132 on:** December 21, 2016, 04:53:20 PM »

Quote from: oldbike54 on December 21, 2016, 04:20:51 PM

Chuck H , there is no official tie between WG and the MGNOC , just lots of overlap . We are all friends , well mostly and both places perform a function . Hope to see you at Cedar Vale .

Dusty

Ditto. The only coincidence is that I happen to be a 15+ year MGNOC member and I built the second version of the MGNOC website and still maintain the classifieds.

But no ties in any official capacity whatsoever.

Sasquatch Jim · « **Reply #133 on:** December 22, 2016, 12:33:25 PM »

How about Kilauea? Great scenery like no where else in the country, and nightly light shows.

JJ · « **Reply #134 on:** December 22, 2016, 01:13:44 PM »

Quote from: Sasquatch Jim on December 22, 2016, 12:33:25 PM

How about Kilauea? Great scenery like no where else in the country, and nightly light shows.

I'm all for that!! (LOL) A little "spendy" to air-ship a bike over there...but what the heck?!?

I think a cool place for a National Rally in 2017 would be somewhere in the middle of the country - equal distance from both coasts!

Ncdan · « **Reply #135 on:** December 22, 2016, 03:04:11 PM »

Mountains of NC would be a great place maybe around Cherokee. Would be some great ridding and there are many hotels and motels as well as numerous campgrounds within small areas.

Tom · « **Reply #136 on:** December 22, 2016, 04:36:09 PM »

Quote from: JJ on December 22, 2016, 01:13:44 PM

I'm all for that!! (LOL) A little "spendy" to air-ship a bike over there...but what the heck?!?

I think a cool place for a National Rally in 2017 would be somewhere in the middle of the country - equal distance from both coasts!

I'll lead the rides.

Brevaman · « **Reply #137 on:** December 24, 2016, 08:19:15 AM »

Quote from: Ncdan on December 22, 2016, 03:04:11 PM

Mountains of NC would be a great place maybe around Cherokee. Would be some great ridding and there are many hotels and motels as well as numerous campgrounds within small areas.

Great idea, Ncdan! I was just down there. It's rider's heaven. What about alternating years, left and east coasts...

ChuckH · « **Reply #138 on:** December 27, 2016, 05:55:37 PM »

I just heard from the horse's mouth -- Frank himself -- that there will not be an MGNOC National Rally in 2017. No one stepped up to do the work involved to do the rally. Simple as that.

Too bad, but we can always go to the various regional Guzzi Rallies that were not sponsored or supported by MGNOC.

Ride safe guys.

bad Chad · « **Reply #139 on:** December 27, 2016, 06:18:49 PM »

Thats to bad, can't say we didn't see it coming. But just to be clear, MGNOC did not sponsor or support any national rally, or any rally whatsoever as I understand it. And to me sponsor means put up some money to help pay for it.

Chuck in Indiana · « **Reply #140 on:** December 27, 2016, 07:06:58 PM »

Quote from: bad Chad on December 27, 2016, 06:18:49 PM

Thats to bad, can't say we didn't see it coming. But just to be clear, MGNOC did not sponsor or support any national rally, or any rally whatsoever as I understand it. And to me sponsor means put up some money to help pay for it.

As far as I know, that's right, Chad. The state "reps" take on all responsibility.

Lannis · « **Reply #141 on:** December 27, 2016, 09:10:29 PM »

Quote from: Chuck in Indiana on December 27, 2016, 07:06:58 PM

As far as I know, that's right, Chad. The state "reps" take on all responsibility.

That's the way it's always been.

But hey. What prevents any of the state reps who are putting on a rally ANYWAY from saying, "This rally I'm putting on will be the National Rally this year!"

What would they have to do differently? Expect some more people, maybe? Since there's no money received from the National organization, how is putting on a State rally different from declaring it a National rally?

The Loopframe guys have declared the Virginia Rally the "Loopframe National" after two dozen nice loops showed up at the VA rally a few years back .... !!

Just one of those things that makes you say "Hmmmmm ....."

Lannis

JJ · « **Reply #142 on:** December 28, 2016, 06:18:08 AM »

Quote from: ChuckH on December 27, 2016, 05:55:37 PM

I just heard from the horse's mouth -- Frank himself -- that there will not be an MGNOC National Rally in 2017. No one stepped up to do the work involved to do the rally. Simple as that.

Too bad, but we can always go to the various regional Guzzi Rallies that were not sponsored or supported by MGNOC.

Ride safe guys.

A "major bummer..."

but I understand completely, because it takes a LOT OF WORK and more than a few dedicated Guzzisti to put on ANY rally, let alone a National.

This is also why in the last few years, NORCAL and AZ have put on a "N.A.R." (Not-A-Rally) just to get people together for a weekend ride!!

Certainly way better than sitting on the couch with the remote! (LOL)

There is always 2018, I suppose...

John Ulrich · « **Reply #143 on:** December 28, 2016, 07:50:02 AM »

Quote from: Lannis on December 27, 2016, 09:10:29 PM

What would they have to do differently? Expect some more people, maybe? Since there's no money received from the National organization, how is putting on a State rally different from declaring it a National rally?

Two moving components that scare you off. No real idea on how many are coming which gives you no real idea on expenses.

Lannis · « **Reply #144 on:** December 28, 2016, 08:19:38 AM »

Quote from: John Ulrich on December 28, 2016, 07:50:02 AM

Two moving components that scare you off. No real idea on how many are coming which gives you no real idea on expenses.

Yebbut, don't rallymasters have that problem with ANY rally? Normally they have to project, based on pre-registrations and past experience, how many will be there - otherwise, there's no way to know. Some factor like "Actual Attendance will be 220% of pre-regs" or something like that, to know how much food to get in, etc.

I was just wondering. Certainly, if it were doable to "declare" a particular rally to be this years "National", a brisk young rallymaster would be doing it!

Lannis

LaMojo · « **Reply #145 on:** December 28, 2016, 08:50:36 AM »

Quote from: Tom on December 19, 2016, 04:26:16 PM

They also need the skills to organize and stage a large event. They would also have to gamble on how many would show up by footing the bill for deposit on a venue and/or catering. This would be the accolades of some and the complaints of others.

You nailed that one Tom.