A V9 scenario...

[lucydad]

All,

Ok, I have been rolling this scenario around.  AF1 Racing in Austin has a gold V9 Romer in stock.  Not too far from Sugar Land.
Either ride the 2012 V7R to Austin and trade, or let Mike at MPH in Houston sell V7R on consignment.  Question is:  what is a fair price for a V7R with 14K miles on it, excellent shape?  I suspect Mike could do the maintenance on the V9?  Or maybe not, does it require specific software, tools and such?  He can't do warranty work, I know that.  Upside of V9 is the wonderful engine, and ABS.  Downside is cost/distance and if there is a new bike/engine issue with the V9s, could be a big headache.  Love my V7R in most respects-- extremely well sorted at this point, so just playing with the scenario.

Just thinking, but from thoughts come reality. 

Thoughts? Advice?  Are AF1 folks a good dealer in Austin?  Yeah, I know I think too much.

[Cam3512]

AF1 has a great rep.  Stop thinking.  Ride the Racer over and take the V9 for a spin.  If you like it, trade the Racer and ride the Roamer home.

[PJPR01]

Your V7 is a very special model Greg...I'd hold onto it for starters - it's a collectors item and a real beauty.

The v9 is going to be a stock looker...you may or may not like it as much as the V7.

In the event you decide you only want to have 2 bikes instead of 3, you'd be able to sell the V7 easily on Cycle trader or on consignment...but I'd give yourself a few months on the new bike before selling the V7.

[fotoguzzi]

  you'd be able to sell the V7 easily on Cycle trader or on consignment..

humm.. I'm not sure of that..

this has been f/s a long time..

https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ram/mcy/5600788776.html

[Cam3512]

 There is nothing collectible about the V7 racer. The market is flooded with them.

[rocker59]

The black tank 2012 Racer is pretty cool. Will appeal to those who think the chromed tank is gaudy.

Still, it's a 4 year old 2TB V7, so worth half of new purchase price. Maybe.

An oddity among the V7 Racers, but since probably half the V7s out there are Racers, and half the Guzzi's out there are V7s,  I wouldn't call it rare or collectible.  In the Guzzi sense of the word, anyway.

[rocker59]

Lucydad, as Cam says, go check out the Roamer.  If you like it, make a deal. If not,  keep what you have.

[lucydad]

Rocker, all:

Good to hear on AF1 reputation.  Yeah, it would make a cool long weekend to ride the Racer up to Austin, test the Roamer and get a solution.
Off to Durango in a week, and this week is consumed already.  Late June.  Would camp but the weather has been atrociously wet.  Could perhaps find a cool little town B and B nearby.  Plan is forming...thanks.  I figure the V7R might be worth $4000 or so, agree they are not that rare.

The more upright geometry of the Roamer might agree with my back more than the cafe V7R.  There is only one way to find out:  a decent sit and test ride.  I wonder if Luigi in Mandello really worked the bugs out of the engine and bike?  Hopefully so.

[Murray]

I think you'll be spending money for little or no gain especially if your bike is as "sorted" as you say it is. Although beauty is the eye of the beer holder and lets face it the V7's have not much else going for them there is no beauty in the v9's.

[Vagrant]

put some bar risers and use the $7000 you save to travel.

[rocker59]

put some bar risers and use the $7000 you save to travel.

Good Point.  The top clamp of the Racer is already drilled for bar risers.

Would be pretty easy to have MPH convert the bike to Stone/Special handlebar setup.

bar, risers, cables, brake hose...

And, much cheaper than a new bike...

[Kev m]

Good Point.  The top clamp of the Racer is already drilled for bar risers.

Would be pretty easy to have MPH convert the bike to Stone/Special handlebar setup.

bar, risers, cables, brake hose...

And, much cheaper than a new bike...

Although with that change in the bars he might also equally want a change in placement of the foot controls.

But yeah, it might make more sense to go that route.

Then again, where were motorcycles about what makes sense?

[Dave Swanson]

That's what I was thinking.  You guys are taking all the fun out of it.   

[not-fishing]

It all depends on the riding position you want and whether or not you want "another" rather than "different" bike.

Options:  -- more power?

V7 and put a big bore kit on it

               --- different riding position?

Change the bar or bar and pegs.

               --more power, latest upgrades?

Buy the Roamer & sell the V7.  The hit you'll take is based on how well you bought.

               ---Lust for the bigger chested yellow-gold roamer?

Buy Roamer & trade in the V7 and realize you have a weakness for builds & certain colors.

[rboe]

This has worked for me a couple times so it MAY apply here. Let's say they offer you $3000 in trade for your Racer. Ask yourself, would I pay $3000 to have this bike as a cool second bike in the fleet?

If not, let it go. But if you would gladly pay what they offer you to have it then keep it AND get the V9 - assuming everything else works out.

[Cam3512]

I'm also skeptical about 1st year engines.  However they did get it right with the 1400.  I would think if there were major issues, we would have heard about it here from our Euro and Aussie friends that have had them for a while?

[Kev m]

I'm also skeptical about 1st year engines.  However they did get it right with the 1400.  I would think if there were major issues, we would have heard about it here from our Euro and Aussie friends that have had them for a while?

You could also argue the 2013 V7 with the 1TB was a "first year" motor - I mean there's about as much different between it and the 2TB as there is between the 1TB V7 and the new V9 (maybe even fewer differences between the 2 versions of the V7s).

And the 2013 1TB basically was right out of the box. I mean, sure it was smart to re-route the clutch cable, and a better map became available eventually (but neither were earth shaking).

[Perazzimx14]

If you wait a year you'll have no problem picking up a leftover V9 at a STEEP discount. In the mean time try and sell your V7R.

[lucydad]

Hmm, always insights here when a question is posed.  Always grateful.

Just rode the V7R home, just shy of 15K miles.  Larry at MPH did a thorough tune up.  Noticeably easier start, smooth idle and top end with valve adjustment, new air filter, and new plugs.  They are just fantastic guys.  New brake fluid and new front tire also.  On TX 99 riding home, ran it up to over 90 mph in fifth gear:  smooth as silk, and still climbing.  Planted and nice. Bike will do the ton, I know that.  Always have to recalibrate my brake hand to the Guzzi after riding the Triumph.  The little heron head small block is a fantastic little machine.  Tightness of body geometry is very noticeable, again compared to the more upright and roomy STRX triple.  Bar risers are an idea.  But then again the Cafe look of the Racer is part of its charm and heritage. 

Note to safety file:  even if a front tire has tread, when they are around 5 years old --they can get brittle and cracky--replace.

Anyway--  rolling ideas around.  The Roamers might get a bit cheaper as the year grinds down.  Waiting to see if the new engine has issues, at least until end of 2016 might make sense, or not, not sure.  Have not seen a lot of owner reviews of the new V9s yet, someone that has put a good 5000 miles on one, unless I missed it.  One option is just to add a bike, I have plenty of room in the exclusive moto garage in the new Villa.
Too bad that Tenni is a flatty---too much hassle.  Some day an older big block Guzzi might just follow me home...

[mjptexas]

All,

Ok, I have been rolling this scenario around.  AF1 Racing in Austin has a gold V9 Romer in stock......
....Thoughts? Advice?  Are AF1 folks a good dealer in Austin?  Yeah, I know I think too much.

In one of your later posts you mentioned 'big block'.  Last time I was a AF1 they had a brand new Griso on the floor.  Come on up to Austin & ride em both!  But if you do, I think I know which one you'll leave with.

And if you decide to make the trip let me know.  We'll find a decent burger or bbq.

[Xlratr]

Go for it! The v9 sounds like a great motor and anyway life's too short..

[Lcarlson]

Don't know what you'll do with the V7R, but I suspect you'll find a V9 in your garage before too long....

[bad Chad]

Hmm, always insights here when a question is posed.  Always grateful.

Just rode the V7R home, just shy of 15K miles.  Larry at MPH did a thorough tune up.  Noticeably easier start, smooth idle and top end with valve adjustment, new air filter, and new plugs.  They are just fantastic guys.  New brake fluid and new front tire also.  On TX 99 riding home, ran it up to over 90 mph in fifth gear:  smooth as silk, and still climbing.  Planted and nice. Bike will do the ton, I know that.  Always have to recalibrate my brake hand to the Guzzi after riding the Triumph.  The little heron head small block is a fantastic little machine.  Tightness of body geometry is very noticeable, again compared to the more upright and roomy STRX triple.  Bar risers are an idea.  But then again the Cafe look of the Racer is part of its charm and heritage. 

Note to safety file:  even if a front tire has tread, when they are around 5 years old --they can get brittle and cracky--replace.

Anyway--  rolling ideas around.  The Roamers might get a bit cheaper as the year grinds down.  Waiting to see if the new engine has issues, at least until end of 2016 might make sense, or not, not sure.  Have not seen a lot of owner reviews of the new V9s yet, someone that has put a good 5000 miles on one, unless I missed it.  One option is just to add a bike, I have plenty of room in the exclusive moto garage in the new Villa.
Too bad that Tenni is a flatty---too much hassle.  Some day an older big block Guzzi might just follow me home...

There you go, you managed to talk yourself right out of it, with the help of the peanut parlor, of course.  You can always find a reason not to buy a bike you really want, the only potential problem with waiting, is know one can see what the future holds, Cease the Day!

[kevdog3019]

Either you have deep pockets or your wife is a saint, but you have been into buying toys and more toys since retirement. 
I wouldn't set my heart on the V9 compared to the racer until I rode one and thought about it. We love someone buying new stuff on this board as we get to live vicariously through them and their initial excitement. However, it lasts a short while until the next object excited them. Well... we don't mind the next one either. 
K

[kevdog3019]

Hmm, always insights here when a question is posed.  Always grateful.

Just rode the V7R home, just shy of 15K miles.  Larry at MPH did a thorough tune up.  Noticeably easier start, smooth idle and top end with valve adjustment, new air filter, and new plugs.  They are just fantastic guys.  New brake fluid and new front tire also.  On TX 99 riding home, ran it up to over 90 mph in fifth gear:  smooth as silk, and still climbing.  Planted and nice. Bike will do the ton, I know that.  Always have to recalibrate my brake hand to the Guzzi after riding the Triumph.  The little heron head small block is a fantastic little machine.  Tightness of body geometry is very noticeable, again compared to the more upright and roomy STRX triple.  Bar risers are an idea.  But then again the Cafe look of the Racer is part of its charm and heritage. 

Note to safety file:  even if a front tire has tread, when they are around 5 years old --they can get brittle and cracky--replace.

Anyway--  rolling ideas around.  The Roamers might get a bit cheaper as the year grinds down.  Waiting to see if the new engine has issues, at least until end of 2016 might make sense, or not, not sure.  Have not seen a lot of owner reviews of the new V9s yet, someone that has put a good 5000 miles on one, unless I missed it.  One option is just to add a bike, I have plenty of room in the exclusive moto garage in the new Villa.
Too bad that Tenni is a flatty---too much hassle.  Some day an older big block Guzzi might just follow me home...

I see you had that conversation with your wife! 

[drw916]

I agree about the Griso.  Little to be gained trading for the V9.  But the Griso?  Oh yeah!

[Cam3512]

Either you have deep pockets or your wife is a saint, but you have been into buying toys and more toys since retirement. 

I don't see much toy buying.  Just over thinking and asking us what WE think.  Lots of tire kicking.

[PJPR01]

You guys took all the fun out of this...no one understands reverse psychology here?   

The V7 isn't going anywhere I'm sure...the V9 is a pure hypothetical (think, mull it over, ponder it a bit further, maybe take a test ride), but trading a known entity on an unknown one just doesn't seem to be the engineer way of doing things.  Need to test it out thoroughly for a couple of months.

The V7 is in pristine condition, why give up a known item for an unknown...better to add to the fleet before giving up the item that puts a smile on your face for something that might not do the same.

 

[Cam3512]

Smile on your face yea, until your back starts killing you due to the riding position.

[PJPR01]

Smile on your face yea, until your back starts killing you due to the riding position.