velocidade controlada - is this device in your riding area?

[Daniel Kalal]

You'll see these in other places, but in Portugal they're quite common.

The speed limit within towns is 50kph (even if it's not posted).  If you approach faster than that, a traffic light will switch to red, and there you'll sit.  Approach at something under 50kph and you'll be rewarded with a green light.  You'll see this at both ends of town.  I never did sort out how far out the sensor would reach.

So, for those of you who live with these things, how do you generally deal with them?  In one town, I was a bit too fast and got the red light, but a car behind me just put the pedal down and blew through.  I doubt that's the norm, but I'm sure it happens.

It's worth nothing that the light doesn't otherwise protect any road crossing--except often for a pedestrian crosswalk.

[oldbike54]

 Actually that is interesting . 50 kph = 31 MPH , just slightly under the norm for most small towns in our part of the country Deke . What happens , does the local constabulary show up and write a ticket eventually , or is it a passive system ?

 Dusty

[Daniel Kalal]

Actually that is interesting . 50 kph = 31 MPH , just slightly under the norm for most small towns in our part of the country Deke . What happens , does the local constabulary show up and write a ticket eventually , or is it a passive system ?

 Dusty

It turns green after a bit.  It's not likely that most these towns have any sort of law enforcement of their own.

Throughout Europe there are national speed limits for the various types of roads (and within towns and near towns).  Yes; there are speed limit signs here and there, but nowhere near as many as in the U.S.  The sign with the diagonal black stripe means whatever special limitation has been in place (construction, for instance) has ended and you should now obey the standard limit for the occasion (leaving you to know what that is).

[oldbike54]

It turns green after a bit.  It's not likely that most these towns have any sort of law enforcement of their own.

Throughout Europe there are national speed limits for the various types of roads (and within towns and near towns).  Yes; there are speed limit signs here and there, but nowhere near as many as in the U.S.  The sign with the diagonal black stripe means whatever special limitation has been in place (construction, for instance) has ended and you should now obey the standard limit for the occasion (leaving you to know what that is).

 Probably cheaper than paying for a local LEO . Just curious , if you were to approach at say 20 KPH over the limit , does this thing stay red longer , or possibly issue a camera ticket ?

 Dusty

[Steve Scott]

These have been in the states for decades... but they're unpopular because they don't generate revenue. First one I noticed was on Elden St. in Herndon VA in 1985.

[Daniel Kalal]

These have been in the states for decades... but they're unpopular because they don't generate revenue. First one I noticed was on Elden St. in Herndon VA in 1985.

Must be an east coast thing.  I've never seen it in the u.s.

[not-fishing]

Nah here in California we have thousands of these;



My buddy got a ticket recently and it cost him $700

[oldbike54]

These have been in the states for decades... but they're unpopular because they don't generate revenue. First one I noticed was on Elden St. in Herndon VA in 1985.

 

Nah here in California we have thousands of these;



My buddy got a ticket recently and it cost him $700

 Aren't those just regular speed cameras ? I think Deke is referring to something different .

 Dusty

[Guzzistajohn]

Red light cameras were deemed UN constitutional in Springfield, Mo. AFTER they installed them all over town. Can't believe someones head didn't roll in city Govt. over the $$ spent.

[swordds]

Well redlight/school zone cameras are still legal in New Orleans. Always rumors that they will eventually be declared unconstitutional and I don't like them but they seem to be a money maker for someone. Still, not the same as the thread topic red-light thing.

[not-fishing]

 Aren't those just regular speed cameras ? I think Deke is referring to something different .

 Dusty

Some say they have an excess speed sensor that trips with a quick yellow-red change where you get the bill in the mail.

A lot of Downtown Sacramento Lights are just timed so if you go to fast you run into the next light during a red cycle.

Mark

[oldbike54]

Some say they have an excess speed sensor that trips with a quick yellow-red change where you get the bill in the mail.

A lot of Downtown Sacramento Lights are just timed so if you go to fast you run into the next light during a red cycle.

Mark

 Yes , but judging by the behavior of the locals to the red light that Deke described , the devices in Portugal are simply a reminder . Similar to the portable radar trailers used here that read "your speed is " .

 Dusty

[Arizona Wayne]

 Aren't those just regular speed cameras ? I think Deke is referring to something different .

 Dusty

Photo tickets are illegal because the person issuing the ticket doesn't have the authority to do that.  They are just a civilian, not a  sworn officer.  If you ignore the "ticket" nothing will come of it, at least not in Arizona.   If I got a  ticket like that I'd take it to court if I got abused over it.

[Noguzznoglory]

  Read recently that photo tickets are unenforceable in ALL states. Love to hear from an attorney about this. Like to know if the state issues a warrant when you don't pay

[Stevex]

Red light cameras were deemed UN constitutional in Springfield, Mo. AFTER they installed them all over town. Can't believe someones head didn't roll in city Govt. over the $$ spent.

I hate speed cameras, in the UK average speed cameras are quite common.
I do agree with red light cameras though; if a dickhead goes through on a red, it's not just him/her self that's at risk...how on earth can they be deemed unconstitutional?

[Groover]

Feliz Navidad is stuck in my head now for some reason..

[oldbike54]

I hate speed cameras, in the UK average speed cameras are quite common.
I do agree with red light cameras though; if a dickhead goes through on a red, it's not just him/her self that's at risk...how on earth can they be deemed unconstitutional?

 We have right turn on red laws in most states here . I think the reference was to  red light cameras triggering as the car proceeded to turn right .

 Dusty

[Guzzistajohn]

I hate speed cameras, in the UK average speed cameras are quite common.
I do agree with red light cameras though; if a dickhead goes through on a red, it's not just him/her self that's at risk...how on earth can they be deemed unconstitutional?

I think the problem was the fact someone else might be driving your car. It was also causing more rear end accidents.

[tris]

Re unsigned speed limits. In the UK if you see street lights the limit is 30 MPH unless signed otherwise - usually on the light poles themselves

This was a public broadcast announcement from Lincolnshire 

[Moto]

Red light cameras were deemed UN constitutional in Springfield, Mo. AFTER they installed them all over town. Can't believe someones head didn't roll in city Govt. over the $$ spent.

Wait! The UN has a constitution?! Great news. Now, how do we amend it?

[Muzz]

  If you ignore the "ticket" nothing will come of it, at least not in Arizona.

Do that here and they might not let you out of the country.
Photo ticket = fine.

[azguzzirep]

In Germany we have speed cameras everywhere and red light cameras too. Plus the police use portable radar set ups 😣

If you get "blitzed" by a red light camera you can say goodbye to your drivers license for one month and also say goodbye to a large amount of cash. I am all for red light cameras!

Now in Europe the new norm is 30kph through most towns. Cities are still 50kph.

[Tom]

Feliz Navidad is stuck in my head now for some reason..

Must be because you think Portugal is Spain.