Modern Take on the Nuovo Falcone

[pikipiki]

For what it's worth if Piaggio took thier 300ie (22.5bhp) and redesigned thier hybrid drive which wasn't really much good (3.5bhp) (15bhp should be easy enough to achieve) they could produce something that looks similar to a guzzi single with the hybrid drive fitting in where the flywheel was on the original.

Ok the result would top out at about 80mph but with massive electic torque at all revs would be fast as anything upto 60mph and provide 100mpg.

Could be something with the character of a Guzzi V7 that would make stuff like honda NC700 look obsolete.

[Tom]

Okay.....a updated large single from Moto Guzzi is not that good of an idea.  I'll look at a large single in a scooter.  Piaggio BV 500 and that will move as well as a V7II plus turn in corners better or an MP3. 

[leafman60]

Big singles road bikes are not big sellers nowadays.

[Tom]

No argument.  Even the small bikes are multi-cylinder.  Making use of other parts in the bin.

[leafman60]

KTM may be running counter to this assertion, however.  Their 690 Duke single, especially in the R version, is a mean little bugger and seems to be selling well.  Turns out 73 HP, even more than that fancy Duck SMono. They also have it in a (mostly dirt) dual-sport.

https://www.ktm.com/naked-bike/690-duke-2016/?color=WHITE

[Tom]

Counter to your assertion on non-selling singles?

[oldbike54]

 Yamaha and Honda both build 300 CC single cylinder sport bikes that are selling well . Both are high tech modern MCs .

 Dusty

[Tom]

WAIT......I was told that single cylinder bikes aren't selling well.    "I heard it on the internet.  It must be true."   

[oldbike54]

WAIT......I was told that single cylinder bikes aren't selling well.    "I heard it on the internet.  It must be true."   

 Abraham Lincoln comes to mind here Tom 

 Dusty

[Tom]

Okay......I'm confused.  First, they're not selling then they're selling..........I'm soooooo.....confuse d. 

[oldbike54]

Okay......I'm confused.  First, they're not selling then they're selling..........I'm soooooo.....confuse d. 

 Welcome to my reality  Of course it allows me to wake up in a new world every morning , keeps things interesting 

 Dusty

[Tom]

   Step away from the keyboard...........

[Ion66]

Anybody recognize that gas tank on the custom?

It does look very similar to an early 80's Suzuki tank. The 400/550/650 had very similar shapes to that one. Could be a reworked tank.

[leafman60]

Anybody recognize that gas tank on the custom?

It does look very similar to an early 80's Suzuki tank. The 400/550/650 had very similar shapes to that one. Could be a reworked tank.

Ya think?

Could be.

That's derived from the Hans Muth design of the Suzuki Katana and other Suzukis- if I am correct. Muth gained fame from his design of the airhead R100RS series in the late 70's.

Could be.

By the way, on the engine, a friend of mine in Austria has reworked a stock NFalcone motor with many upgrades. It is pulling dyno numbers of around 45HP at the crank. That's up there with modern 650 singles and he thinks they can get an additional 10 HP out of it.