Author Topic: Tickets: Less chance of escape? (Read 13350 times)

SmithSwede · « **Reply #60 on:** July 21, 2016, 06:48:34 PM »

Rocker is right that things are better now that we have a sane speed limit policy, and no more federally mandated 55 mph speed limit.

But what frosts my cookies is the mindless enforcement of speed law. Which I cynically attribute to revenue enhancement. Or having a violation that is pretty easy to prove in court, without a lot of hassle.

Just this morning I was at an urban intersection, and watched a motorist blow the red light. It wasn't even close--he was way late, and moving very fast. State Trooper next to me; both of us at the front of the line. I'm sure he saw it. But he did nothing. That is quite irritating.

I very rarely see anyone pulled over for weaving in and out of traffic. Tailgating. Blowing red-lights. Texting so bad they appear to be Otis the Drunk. You know, the stuff that scares me when I'm on a bike. Because it could kill me.

I instead see constant, mindless pointing of radar guns to pull people over for going 70 on a dry, traffic free interstate that is posted for 65 mph. OK, well, I'm not worried about people going 70 on that interstate. Misplaced priorities.

Guzzidad · « **Reply #61 on:** July 21, 2016, 07:21:42 PM »

I just got a red light violation in the mail today. The wife's car but it's registered in my name. Told her she's got some 'splaing to do. She's Cuban, referance to I Love Lucy. She got it.

rodekyll · « **Reply #62 on:** July 21, 2016, 07:32:00 PM »

Buncha whiners.

Tom · « **Reply #63 on:** July 21, 2016, 09:23:55 PM »

Arizona Wayne · « **Reply #64 on:** July 22, 2016, 01:22:04 AM »

Quote from: oldbike54 on July 21, 2016, 04:19:47 PM

Paul , yes there is a reason to not have unrestricted speed limits , American drivers would die in much larger numbers . When they have a wreck on the Autos , either Bahn or Strada , it is a mess. Most Americans aren't good enough drivers to go 100 MPH in any safety . Of course if the car makers would just listen to me and start building nerf cars ...

Dusty

I disagree. Back in the 60'S in wide open desert there was no speed limit between Los Angeles and Las Vegas. Station wagons were doing 120 mph. No crashes. I was driving my Volvo P-1800 flat out and all I could do was 100 mph.

In my friend's Austin Healy 100-6 with overdrive no one was passing us.

Then there was my buddy's Jaguar XK i40 that would do 140 mph.

Nowadays on the same road they do about 80 mph if traffic doesn't bunch up.

Rough Edge racing · « **Reply #65 on:** July 22, 2016, 07:54:47 AM »

Quote from: Arizona Wayne on July 22, 2016, 01:22:04 AM

I disagree. Back in the 60'S in wide open desert there was no speed limit between Los Angeles and Las Vegas. Station wagons were doing 120 mph. No crashes. I was driving my Volvo P-1800 flat out and all I could do was 100 mph. In my friend's Austin Healy 100-6 with overdrive no one was passing us. Then there was my buddy's Jaguar XK i40 that would do 140 mph. Nowadays on the same road they do about 80 mph if traffic doesn't bunch up.

Uh, what 60's station wagons can cruise at 120 mph ? My experience says very few to none can actually do an honest 120 MPH nevermind cruising at that speed . Would have to see proof on that.. Between 1966 and 68 I drove cross country several times. A few cars blew by me but generally the cruising speeds were about 75 MPH on deserted roadways..And only about half the Interstate highways were complete and speeds on two lane roads were generally lower on the average.

John A · « **Reply #66 on:** July 22, 2016, 08:17:53 AM »

I think 60' s big block dodges and the like could get going that fast but most would be limited by tires and cooling systems to go more than a few miles at that speed. I wasn't there so I don't know. I do know that sometimes semis would run about 100 on I 20 between Shreveport and Dallas. On a Cal2 I would hang with them for as long as I could, sniffing for hot rubber in case they slung a tread.

Gliderjohn · « **Reply #67 on:** July 22, 2016, 08:32:00 AM »

Concerning cruising at super high speeds. Back in the mid 70s ran a 68 SS396 El Camino for about five miles at at 5,800 RPM with 3:36 gearing. Whatever speed that works out to. The main problem was that I used a 1/4 tank of gas doing it so even if everything else would have help up for an extended run at those speeds, fuel stops would have been really, really frequent.
GliderJohn

oldbike54 · « **Reply #68 on:** July 22, 2016, 09:07:10 AM »

120 MPH cruising speed ??? Wayne , Western OK is as open as Arizona , and I have no memory of folks ever running that fast . Heck , as has been stated , most of those cars simply would not run that fast , and the tires of that era would have self destructed after 5 miles or so at that kind of speed . Our 4 lane traffic flow here runs about 75-85 MPH , with the occasional car or bike going a bit faster , I would bet money that general traffic flow is faster now than it was 40 years ago .

Dusty

Triple Jim · « **Reply #69 on:** July 22, 2016, 09:22:57 AM »

Quote from: gliderjohn on July 22, 2016, 08:32:00 AM

Concerning cruising at super high speeds. Back in the mid 70s ran a 68 SS396 El Camino for about five miles at at 5,800 RPM with 3:36 gearing. Whatever speed that works out to.

Give or take a little depending on tire size, about 140 mph. Maybe a few mph less to account for tire slip.

John A · « **Reply #70 on:** July 22, 2016, 09:33:09 AM »

Back to the original question, I tell the officer the truth: I was concentrating on watching traffic, road conditions, deer and pedestrians and didn't watch my speed close enough." I don't say how fast I think I was going, if they ask I tell them he has a better idea of that, I would have to go by a twenty year old Itailian speedometer.

PJPR01 · « **Reply #71 on:** July 22, 2016, 09:42:08 AM »

Quote from: Arizona Wayne on July 22, 2016, 01:22:04 AM

I disagree. Back in the 60'S in wide open desert there was no speed limit between Los Angeles and Las Vegas. Station wagons were doing 120 mph. No crashes. I was driving my Volvo P-1800 flat out and all I could do was 100 mph. In my friend's Austin Healy 100-6 with overdrive no one was passing us. Then there was my buddy's Jaguar XK i40 that would do 140 mph. Nowadays on the same road they do about 80 mph if traffic doesn't bunch up.

My parents had 3 Volvo 122S station wagons (66, 67, 68) bought in the late 60's which lasted about 20-25 years. When pushed hard, I remember the orange speedometer creeping to the right to about 110...it might have been able to hit 120 downwind...but it would run at that pace for a bit...not for hours on end but for decent stretch. We would always plaster our face to the window when we saw a P-1800 - (Simon Templar the Saint!!)

oldbike54 · « **Reply #72 on:** July 22, 2016, 09:47:08 AM »

Quote from: John A on July 22, 2016, 09:33:09 AM

Back to the original question, I tell the officer the truth: I was concentrating on watching traffic, road conditions, deer and pedestrians and didn't watch my speed close enough." I don't say how fast I think I was going, if they ask I tell them he has a better idea of that, I would have to go by a twenty year old Itailian speedometer.

Got pulled over by a Trooper in the early 1970's while riding a 650 Triumph . When he asked that question , I honestly told him no idea . Are we talking what the speedo is averaging , a high , or low reading , the dang thing is oscillating between 60 MPH and 140 MPH

Pretty sure the old thing wasn't capable of more than 105 MPH

Dusty

Two Checks · « **Reply #73 on:** July 22, 2016, 01:01:42 PM »

I can see it now...aPOS hoopty doing 100+ on one or more doughnut spares...not for long.
And the 60s MoPar big blocks were very capable of 140+. That's why they were the most popular choces of highway patrols.

rodekyll · « **Reply #74 on:** July 22, 2016, 01:20:07 PM »

Those 60s cars did go fast. Got about a mile.5/gal dong it, too. You could pass kidney stones through their jets. But few though could stick to the road at those speeds, and fewer could take a curve. So those 'good 'ol days' were only true with a 440 mopar on a straight, deserted highway for 30 miles. With the proper spacing of gas stations you only needed to fill up every quarter hour.

oldbike54 · « **Reply #75 on:** July 22, 2016, 01:28:59 PM »

Quote from: rodekyll on July 22, 2016, 01:20:07 PM

Those 60s cars did go fast. Got about a mile.5/gal dong it, too. You could pass kidney stones through their jets. But few though could stick to the road at those speeds, and fewer could take a curve. So those 'good 'ol days' were only true with a 440 mopar on a straight, deserted highway for 30 miles. With the proper spacing of gas stations you only needed to fill up every quarter hour.

Yep

Stopping was also problematic ...

Dusty

Arizona Wayne · « **Reply #76 on:** July 22, 2016, 04:03:37 PM »

Only American car I ever owned was a Pontiac straight 8 my father found for $100. All my cars after that were foreign and 4 bangers for good mpg & handling. Bought a new `89 Dodge 3/4T PU for towing and still have it.

Just bought a used Ford Fiesta that handles like a sports car and just got 38mpg driving @ 70-80 mph with it up & down hills while testing it's cornering abilities and it corners as good as my good MCs.

azguzzirep · « **Reply #77 on:** July 23, 2016, 03:16:39 PM »

Germany still has many areas on the autobahn that are open speed.

However, due to traffic, construction zones and roads hazards, WFO isn't always possible. Fun, yes. Legal, yes. Dangerous , extremely😀

Tom

Cool Runnings · « **Reply #78 on:** July 23, 2016, 03:24:22 PM »

Quote from: rodekyll on July 22, 2016, 01:20:07 PM

Those 60s cars did go fast. Got about a mile.5/gal dong it, too. You could pass kidney stones through their jets. But few though could stick to the road at those speeds, and fewer could take a curve. So those 'good 'ol days' were only true with a 440 mopar on a straight, deserted highway for 30 miles. With the proper spacing of gas stations you only needed to fill up every quarter hour.

I could run 150 mph+ with the old 429SCJ (built up 1970 Torino) with 3:01 gears (red-line was 6,200 rpm). Back in the 70's I was closing in fast on a cruiser going flat out to a accident scene. He stopped me instead (slowed down and waited till I passed). I ended up with a warning. He was is disbelief someone was on him like that.

Cool Runnings · « **Reply #79 on:** July 23, 2016, 03:25:13 PM »

Quote from: oldbike54 on July 22, 2016, 09:07:10 AM

120 MPH cruising speed ??? Wayne , Western OK is as open as Arizona , and I have no memory of folks ever running that fast . Heck , as has been stated , most of those cars simply would not run that fast , and the tires of that era would have self destructed after 5 miles or so at that kind of speed . Our 4 lane traffic flow here runs about 75-85 MPH , with the occasional car or bike going a bit faster , I would bet money that general traffic flow is faster now than it was 40 years ago .

Dusty

I was just shifting into second @ 70 mph.

Cool Runnings · « **Reply #80 on:** July 23, 2016, 03:29:05 PM »

These suckers could be fast, very fast.....

PJPR01 · « **Reply #81 on:** July 23, 2016, 03:56:44 PM »

Was that yours Cool? Bad ass machine!

Cool Runnings · « **Reply #82 on:** July 23, 2016, 04:57:09 PM »

Quote from: PJPR01 on July 23, 2016, 03:56:44 PM

Was that yours Cool? Bad ass machine!

No, I had a 1970 Torino 429SCJ with 3:01 gears, 30 over with TRW racing pistons. I miss my BIG BLOCK! lol - runs a Norge these day's......

Looked like this except green. Loved the rear louvers and functional hood scoop. She idled at 1,200 rpm.

Tom · « **Reply #83 on:** July 23, 2016, 07:41:29 PM »

I had a '70 Torino stock. No upgrades was a fun car and look good in BRG.

Rough Edge racing · « **Reply #84 on:** July 24, 2016, 06:00:50 AM »

No bigger bullshit that how fast my vehicle goes and the fuel mileage.... If you don't have recorded proof, it never happened...

HDGoose · « **Reply #85 on:** July 24, 2016, 06:43:49 AM »

Fight the ticket your self. Witht the proper forms for your jurisiction, you ask for right of discovery and start questioning the officer training (usually behind requirements because of budgets), equipment maintenance (again, probably not current), maintenance records of patrol vehicle used (should it have been on the road?). They would rather drop your ticket than pay to research and provide this info. Or hire a lawyer that will do the same things.

rodekyll · « **Reply #86 on:** July 24, 2016, 07:23:11 AM »

. . . .and while you're dicking the system over a ticket you know you earned, don't forget to whine about your entitlements and rights. If you file all the papers and make all the depositions and discoveries (don't forget to show this topic where you admit guilt, btw), demand your jury trial and then the appeals to the higher courts, you can keep the courts occupied for weeks. Yessir, and while you're keeping the courts occupied with your frivolity, they're not getting any of those folks you insist are more deserving of punishment off the streets. So everyone wins.

No wait. Everyone loses, and you become 'that guy' you're always complaining about. You did it. Grow a pair and take your lumps.

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