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Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2016, 04:31:53 PM »
That's nice looking.  The Bobber's footpegs placement was something that I didn't like.  The performance of the engine, trans and suspension.  Chuck didn't like the gas tank because he couldn't put his knees into it in turns.  I was able to put rider input into the bars and did some tight hairpins going up to the John Day airport.  Sweepers coming down to the highway and concluded with a blast down the highway.  Brakes were good.
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Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
« Reply #32 on: September 18, 2016, 02:33:25 PM »
Reviving this thread here somewhat.  Anyone buy one yet?  I've obsessively watched new Guzzi roll-outs for the last 13 years or so and it seems like the V9 variants seem the least purchased of any new Guzzis...at least by folks on this board.  Glancing at showroom floors of dealers in my 200 mile radius, seems like they are sitting there too. 

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« Reply #33 on: September 18, 2016, 03:35:02 PM »
My turn.

Looks good.  :thumb:

Front forks are missing the shields /boots.  :huh: Easy enough.

Side covers need to be improved visually. Full size.  :blank:

Foot pegs do need more options for us riders. Maybe next year.  :huh:

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Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
« Reply #34 on: September 18, 2016, 03:39:54 PM »
Salt Lake City MG dealer dropped the brand a few months ago.  Flew into San Antonio last weekend with the family for a 4-day mini vacation. Was stoked because Saturday after dropping the kids at 6 Flags I talked the wife into letting me lead foot it over to the SA Moto Guzzi dealer (as AF1 in Austin was just too far for the time I had Saturday). I literally sprinted into the showroom in anticipation of seeing an MGX21, Stornello, or at a minimum a Roamer. Standing there looking for the Guzzi's among all three color versions of the Thruxton R and a boat load of KTM's was the dealership manager. "Can I help you" he said with a smile. "Yes, I'm here to look at Moto Guzzi's".  "I'm sorry but we dropped the brand a month ago and shipped back what we had in inventory"  was his reply.... :cry: As I walked out the front door towards the rental car I almost went back in to ask if he'd sell me the printed window screen of the Moto Guzzi Logo he now had no use for.
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Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2016, 03:58:24 PM »
Done already.

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look at that!

beautiful.

they got all these parts, they all fit.

They could do some kind of special order service, build your Guzzi online, accept you will have to wait 3 months to recieve your bike and maybe pay a few hundred dollars over the list price of the regular fair.
Thats individuallity, let the individual choose.


But no, put all your eggs in one basket with a design untested with the buying public, waist more money on vomit-worthy marketing drivel, force your dealers to stock them, dealers have to heavily discount to sell or like above make thier own specials in line with what they know they can sell.

idiots.

bobber and roamer should be Guzzi Garage styling kits for the few people who would actually want the extremes of front wheel size!

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Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2016, 04:09:12 PM »
Front forks are missing the shields /boots.

You sure?  They look a bit like the ones on my Ninja 250, which are very short, and press into the casting.
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« Reply #37 on: September 18, 2016, 06:27:55 PM »
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« Reply #38 on: September 18, 2016, 10:41:27 PM »
I'm still looking for the V9's availability in California.  Anyone know when there due to arrive?
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« Reply #40 on: September 19, 2016, 10:54:17 AM »
Can you just swap the tank and seat? Or is some fabrication needed.
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« Reply #41 on: September 19, 2016, 11:01:16 AM »
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« Reply #42 on: September 19, 2016, 04:14:40 PM »
I'm still looking for the V9's availability in California.  Anyone know when there due to arrive?
I believe CA dealers have them now. The dealer in Santa Clarita is advertising them:
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/mcd/5772820475.html
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« Reply #43 on: September 19, 2016, 10:10:31 PM »
The dealer in Reno stopped by the Nevada Rally in Dayton Nevada Saturday afternoon with a MGX21 (arrived that day) and a Bobber.

Looked good. MGX looks better in person than in the photo's.
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Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
« Reply #44 on: September 20, 2016, 02:18:05 AM »
I saw my first Roamer here in NZ a week or so ago. The owner got it down from Auckland because they had one and they hadn't gotten them here in Christchurch yet.
He had done 300km and seemed to like it. Wanted to put Agostini pipes on it (I have no idea if he meant Lafranconis or whether Ago's have a pipe ready for it...but anyway he was getting louder pipes for it) but dealer wouldn't send them until after first service.

It was his first Guzzi after 'having many other bikes" and wanted to buy an air cooled V-twin while they still made them....

It looked all right and I hope it sells well for Guzzi's sake. I guess the marque looked at who will get their wallets out and aimed at them. I'm not one of them and am unlikely to be considering new financial commitments but I think they will sell a few here. 
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Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
« Reply #45 on: September 20, 2016, 09:58:09 AM »
Seen at the New Mexico Guzzi Rally in Datil last month.  Nice looking bike, IMHO.  Kind of "Sportster-like!" :1: :thumb:  Rider was from CO...and said he liked it!

By the way, Guzzi dealer in Prescott, AZ has a new V9 Roamer, Bobber, and Stornello on the floor now! :cool:



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Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
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« Reply #47 on: September 20, 2016, 12:35:25 PM »
V9's are in California, so I've started scheming a financial scenario to get a Bobber.  Videos on youtube of both Agostini and Mistral for the V9.  I'm partial to Mistral but they both sound good. 
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« Reply #48 on: September 22, 2016, 06:32:19 PM »
When the V7 first came out, seems like folks were buying them like hotcakes around here - well, hotcakes for Guzzis anyhow.  And later years these sales numbers were bank and you saw dealers were getting more of them to stock because they were selling.  I have absolutely nothing but armchair experience to base this on but initially I am beginning to wonder if maybe Guzzi missed the mark with the V9, and by mark I mean only the chance at sales.  They had a proven and desirable platform in the V7 and instead of capitalizing on this by sticking that new engine in it, they instead offered a bike that seems to not be selling as well and possibly confounding others who were considering a V7 - now possibly just content to wait until the V9 engine appears in a V7 platform.  Anyhow, just my thoughts and taking nothing away from the new bike; rather, I'm here just talking about sales. 

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Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
« Reply #49 on: September 22, 2016, 09:21:46 PM »
When the V7 first came out, seems like folks were buying them like hotcakes around here - well, hotcakes for Guzzis anyhow.  And later years these sales numbers were bank and you saw dealers were getting more of them to stock because they were selling.  I have absolutely nothing but armchair experience to base this on but initially I am beginning to wonder if maybe Guzzi missed the mark with the V9, and by mark I mean only the chance at sales.  They had a proven and desirable platform in the V7 and instead of capitalizing on this by sticking that new engine in it, they instead offered a bike that seems to not be selling as well and possibly confounding others who were considering a V7 - now possibly just content to wait until the V9 engine appears in a V7 platform.  Anyhow, just my thoughts and taking nothing away from the new bike; rather, I'm here just talking about sales.

i think you hit the proverbial nail right on the head there ...and i also think the current V9 bikes need a fresh start..
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Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
« Reply #50 on: September 22, 2016, 09:45:55 PM »
Looks better with the V7 tank & seat, still looks goofy tho with the sky hi bars and long spindly fork :-/

Either way the peg placement is a deal breaker for me
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Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
« Reply #51 on: September 23, 2016, 01:09:54 AM »
The dealer in Chandler, AZ has a Bobber, Roamer, 1400 Eldorado, black Audace, Mandello red Audace, MGX21 on the floor & 2 V7 racers chrome tank and one that looks like a V7 II.  PLUS they have a bunch of Triumphs.  Speed Triples, America, T100 etc.  and 2 Rocket III's.  One basic and one tourer.  Huge dealership.  Indians - all variants.  Ducati's, Honda's, Yamaha's, Suzukis, HD's, Beemers, Spyders & some other 3 wheeler.  ATV's too.  Surprised not to see Victory.  I wanted to see the Octane.
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Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
« Reply #52 on: September 23, 2016, 04:53:27 AM »
Owner of V9 Bobber here. Got it on August 5th, have put some 2600 miles on it as of today. I'm quite satisfied with the bike, haven't had a problem and as far as everything else is concerned, it is an entry level bike with ABS, Euro4 and 3 year warranty. Price was EUR 8990 so it competes fine with it's rivals like Triumph Bonneville, Ducatti Scrambler, Kawasaki W800, Harley Street 750, etc.

I have noticed that this bike is not understood by the old Guzzi fans and that seems to be the intention. I knew nothing of Guzzi before this, it's just a "modern retro" bike that competes with others on paper, i.e. price, warranty, features, maintenance ease & cost. For example, I just wanted a mid-size shaft driven on-road bike with entry level price. Most of the entry level bikes of other manufacturers have chains, so, enter Guzzi. Or, take Honda Vt750c2b for example - a very nice bike and superior to V9 in many respects, but no ABS and a rear drum brake -> puke.

The V9, especially the Bobber, is what I'd call a "crossover" bike. It's a cross-over between cruiser, scrambler, classic, naked, standard, retro, bobber, ratrod, modern (modern as in it has abs, efi, traction control, trip computer). Again, it's just a bike for someone who compares the list of features and doesn't give a flying toss about the brand but is just after a good deal and bargain.

I personally disagree with the need to put V7 pieces on it but perhaps this is once again due to the fact that I'm just the modern "consumer" type of person. I don't mod, I don't customise, I don't service my own bike. I just compare the offers on the market, pick what seems best to me and consume it happily and carelessly. I'm all for practicality of course, the bigger the fuel tank the better, but I rather fill up than modify the bike, I mean, which one of the activities is easier and cheaper?

On the technical note, the only thing I dislike about the bike is the dry clutch, in my opinion, bikes need to have wet clutches because they last longer, so, again, less maintenance. Everything else is fine but just entry level, you get what you pay for. The cheap seat, the stiff non-adjustable suspension, flimsy switchgear etc - all usable and completely acceptable in this price bracket.
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« Reply #53 on: September 23, 2016, 05:49:33 AM »
Owner of V9 Bobber here. Got it on August 5th, have put some 2600 miles on it as of today. I'm quite satisfied with the bike, haven't had a problem and as far as everything else is concerned, it is an entry level bike with ABS, Euro4 and 3 year warranty. Price was EUR 8990 so it competes fine with it's rivals like Triumph Bonneville, Ducatti Scrambler, Kawasaki W800, Harley Street 750, etc.

I have noticed that this bike is not understood by the old Guzzi fans and that seems to be the intention. I knew nothing of Guzzi before this, it's just a "modern retro" bike that competes with others on paper, i.e. price, warranty, features, maintenance ease & cost. For example, I just wanted a mid-size shaft driven on-road bike with entry level price. Most of the entry level bikes of other manufacturers have chains, so, enter Guzzi. Or, take Honda Vt750c2b for example - a very nice bike and superior to V9 in many respects, but no ABS and a rear drum brake -> puke.

The V9, especially the Bobber, is what I'd call a "crossover" bike. It's a cross-over between cruiser, scrambler, classic, naked, standard, retro, bobber, ratrod, modern (modern as in it has abs, efi, traction control, trip computer). Again, it's just a bike for someone who compares the list of features and doesn't give a flying toss about the brand but is just after a good deal and bargain.

I personally disagree with the need to put V7 pieces on it but perhaps this is once again due to the fact that I'm just the modern "consumer" type of person. I don't mod, I don't customise, I don't service my own bike. I just compare the offers on the market, pick what seems best to me and consume it happily and carelessly. I'm all for practicality of course, the bigger the fuel tank the better, but I rather fill up than modify the bike, I mean, which one of the activities is easier and cheaper?

On the technical note, the only thing I dislike about the bike is the dry clutch, in my opinion, bikes need to have wet clutches because they last longer, so, again, less maintenance. Everything else is fine but just entry level, you get what you pay for. The cheap seat, the stiff non-adjustable suspension, flimsy switchgear etc - all usable and completely acceptable in this price bracket.
Finally!  We have a new owner!  How about some pics???  I assume you are in Europe?  How many kilometers per tank are you getting on the bike now? 

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Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
« Reply #54 on: September 23, 2016, 07:00:22 AM »
Finally!  We have a new owner!  How about some pics???  I assume you are in Europe?  How many kilometers per tank are you getting on the bike now?

Yes, well, I'm in the EU but actually/also in the USSR, Estonia to be more exact. The low fuel indicator comes on around 200km so it's easy maths in metric units: tank is 15 litres, consumption is around 5 litres per 100km, you get 200km before the light and up to 300km until it's absolutely dry. If you're real gentle on it and do extra-urban back-roads, you may get more because I've measured consumptions like 4.4l/100km in warmer weather. It's not such a long distance cruiser that you want to sit on it more than an hour straight, so I see no problem with range. Even if I took it to a road trip to Italy, I would pop in to at least every other gas station anyway, just to rest and stretch myself.


EDIT: I don't have pics and the camera on my phone is currently broken, but it's just the absolutely stock black version. Earlier this summer another bloke in Estonia reviewed the demo bike, the one that I also test-rode and that is a clone of every V9 sold over here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMgVLDCUdts


EDIT2: About the tank size and the design, to me it's quite obvious where they got their inspiration from. I mean, not particularly this or that model of Harley, but the general sportster-streetbob-etc concept. And this sort of Harleys tend to have the ridiculously small 2 gallon tank instead of the nearly 4 gallon one on V9. This also explains why there seems to be no interest towards the Roamer version though it's the prettier model. Roamer just does not make sense next to V7, they are redundant and V7 has quite some merits. But Bobber is a completely new concept for MG, they have not been on this market before: 

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Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
« Reply #55 on: September 23, 2016, 09:44:47 AM »
Mission accomplished: New owners - that aren't part of the problem (old joke to old Guzzi riders ). :)
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Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
« Reply #56 on: September 23, 2016, 12:59:49 PM »
The Elk Grove, Ca. Guzzi dealer just south (HWY 99) of Sacramento has 13  bikes on display.  Don't remember if any of them was a V9 as I'm not looking for another Guzzi.   :huh:

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« Reply #57 on: May 05, 2017, 08:42:51 PM »
Well, someone bought one!

I just saw a Bobber pull up and stop for a minute in front of me as I was walking home. It gave me a strange feeling.

I had enough time to get an impression that surprised me. The blacked-out tank didn't stand out at all, even though I had already seen that it has a pretty unusual shape, in a showroom. I could see the little yellow checkerboard stripe on the top of the tank because I knew to look for it, but it would be noticeable only to the rider. The whole bike was solid-looking, dense, mid-sized, and not distinctively Guzzi-like, to me. At first it took me a few beats to recognize what it was. I was thinking Honda, though it is bigger than the old Honda v-twin.

The motor sounded good, and the rider took off with good low-speed torque up the hill, so it looked like a competent ride.

But the word that came to mind was "nondescript." A good commuter bike, functional, common-looking, maybe intended to compete in a market that doesn't interest me, as an earlier poster said.

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EDIT: Forgot to mention the rider. Open-faced helmet, beard, young. A hipster, I suppose, not that I know too much about that.
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Re: Anyone buy a V9?...
« Reply #58 on: May 05, 2017, 08:49:27 PM »
It's growing on me... But for similar money I'll probably buy another Sportster (CX) rather than another smallblock.
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« Reply #59 on: May 06, 2017, 02:42:46 PM »
I'd replace the tank.  I have a spare V11 Sport Mandello Rosso tank.  Would look similar to a mini-red Audace.  :rolleyes:  Come to think about it I could put it on my black T3.  :shocked:  Then I'd have a Halloween bike.  :grin:
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