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Re: MGX-21 Demo, Road Test, and Review merged threadfest
« Reply #60 on: August 11, 2016, 05:22:32 PM »
Reviews coming in are definitely on the positive side.  In fact the reviews i have seen to this point are noticeably consistent.  They find the bike to be good!  They find it to be better than the competion in many ways, and equal in others, thats a big plus for Moto Guzzi.

Will this translate into sales, lets hope so!
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Re: MGX-21 Demo, Road Test, and Review merged threadfest
« Reply #61 on: August 11, 2016, 05:59:46 PM »
I can't believe this guy is a motorcycle road tester writer.  It doesn't seem like he's ridden a lot of different bikes.


Ok, so to answer your edit, and maybe I should have addressed this in the first response, but why are you under the impression a motorcycle writer must have necessarily ridden a large variety of bikes?

For the record I get the impression Lemmy is a fan on Harley and similar styled V-twins (mostly American), but does indeed have experience with other brands and types.

Maybe not the depth of experience that one used to find I'm Cycle World or Motorcyclist editors, but Lemmy and CT are a lot newer to the market then those (and perhaps more of a breath of fresh air).

Anyway I find your comment to be the equivalent of wintering why a rock musician might not have experience with jazz or classical. It wouldn't necessarily have an bearing on his craft.

AFAIK CT isn't trying to be Cycle World or Motorcyclist, and that's probably a good thing because those are tired and played out formats.

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Re: MGX-21 Demo, Road Test, and Review merged threadfest
« Reply #62 on: August 11, 2016, 07:22:03 PM »
Well, for that kind of money I'd probably opt for a Ducati XDiavel for my next cruiser.
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Re: MGX-21 Demo, Road Test, and Review merged threadfest
« Reply #63 on: August 11, 2016, 08:58:01 PM »
Ok, so to answer your edit, and maybe I should have addressed this in the first response, but why are you under the impression a motorcycle writer must have necessarily ridden a large variety of bikes?

For the record I get the impression Lemmy is a fan on Harley and similar styled V-twins (mostly American), but does indeed have experience with other brands and types.

Maybe not the depth of experience that one used to find I'm Cycle World or Motorcyclist editors, but Lemmy and CT are a lot newer to the market then those (and perhaps more of a breath of fresh air).

Anyway I find your comment to be the equivalent of wintering why a rock musician might not have experience with jazz or classical. It wouldn't necessarily have an bearing on his craft.

AFAIK CT isn't trying to be Cycle World or Motorcyclist, and that's probably a good thing because those are tired and played out formats.

You've certainly given me some good reasons why I shouldn't waste my time reading CT and Lenny.   

I'd like to read a ride writer who's ridden more than just a few Harleys.   The nuances between a Classic and Limited don't really interest me.   Especially from a guy that seems shocked that a bike will rev over 6k rpms.
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Re: MGX-21 Demo, Road Test, and Review merged threadfest
« Reply #64 on: August 11, 2016, 08:59:02 PM »
Well, for that kind of money I'd probably opt for a Ducati XDiavel for my next cruiser.


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Re: MGX-21 Demo, Road Test, and Review merged threadfest
« Reply #65 on: August 11, 2016, 09:06:47 PM »
You've certainly given me some good reasons why I shouldn't waste my time reading CT and Lenny.   

I'd like to read a ride writer who's ridden more than just a few Harleys.   The nuances between a Classic and Limited don't really interest me.   Especially from a guy that seems shocked that a bike will rev over 6k rpms.

Then you read what you wanted in that and not what was actually intended.

I didn't say he only rode Harleys and more importantly he's far from the only writer there.

And I didn't read any shock. I read a well written observation noting the differences in tuning.

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Re: MGX-21 Demo, Road Test, and Review merged threadfest
« Reply #66 on: August 12, 2016, 01:01:00 PM »
I took the review as a new rider to Moto Guzzi with a preference to HD's.  There was a reference to an Indian but I didn't pay to much attention to his comments on that.  As for his review, entertaining but then again the bike doesnt' appeal to me.  The 1400 Eldo does.
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Re: MGX-21 Demo, Road Test, and Review merged threadfest
« Reply #67 on: August 12, 2016, 02:38:17 PM »
Gotta have a 21 and no front brake. .

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Re: MGX-21 Demo, Road Test, and Review merged threadfest
« Reply #68 on: August 12, 2016, 03:05:27 PM »
Well, for that kind of money I'd probably opt for a Ducati XDiavel for my next cruiser.

Wow, that's a different market segment...
There is nothing about a Diavel that is anything like a bagger. 'Cruiser' is a bit of a stretch on that bike. I have an original Diavel and would never try to tell someone it's a cruiser. The X has forward-ish pegs, but again...

The MGX went right after the money making market for HD- baggers. Let's see if they can steal some sales. I doubt anyone who would consider a Diavel would have thought twice about the MGX

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Re: MGX-21 Demo, Road Test, and Review merged threadfest
« Reply #69 on: August 12, 2016, 03:11:56 PM »
Indeed, try ridding a Diavel for 300 400 miles to a rally!
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Re: MGX-21 Demo, Road Test, and Review merged threadfest
« Reply #70 on: August 12, 2016, 03:21:17 PM »
Chad, if someone was offering me their Duc, I'd try to suffer the ride.   :laugh:
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Re: MGX-21 Demo, Road Test, and Review merged threadfest
« Reply #71 on: August 12, 2016, 07:51:38 PM »
Ok, but rest assured, no one will. :laugh:
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Re: MGX-21 Demo, Road Test, and Review merged threadfest
« Reply #72 on: August 12, 2016, 08:26:21 PM »
     When I bought my Touring at the end of 2014 the choice was the Touring or the Custom and I fell in love with the Touring, buying with no test ride and only relying on reviews that turned out to be spot on. I tend to be practical which I have since found most other Guzzi owners to be. The wind protection and bags were good for me.
     The Custom seemed like more of a muscle bike as well as the Audace which is cool but not my personal taste. I love the Eldorado but would have probably still purchased the Touring for wind protection and bags.
     When the MGX 21 came out I thought it was way too far out but the more I see it the more I like it, but still not my style. All the bikes are obviously on the same basic platforms with trails different mostly because of the different front wheels.
     It seems that the bike is well liked for a variety of reasons including handling, power plant and all that carbon fiber!. The funny thing is that they make it like this power plant and handling is all new, like they never rode a Touring which has great handling, the same power plant, better wind protection and bigger bags. Less style but more practical.
     All of this is obviously personal preference and variety is a great thing. I think its great that Moto Guzzi is finally actually trying to market something with some degree of effort and hopefully will reap the rewards. It's hard to switch someone's brand loyalty including mine but they definitely got some loyalists thinking.

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Re: MGX-21 Demo, Road Test, and Review merged threadfest
« Reply #73 on: August 14, 2016, 05:05:15 AM »
I'm hoping at some point someone does a comparison test ride between the California Tour and the MGX21. I think the Tour might be the better choice for touring because of the larger more normal shaped bags but I prefer a fairing over a windshield and I really don't like all the chrome. They both have the same small fuel tank that just seems a strange design flaw for a touring bike. I also prefer the double gauges over the single one. It's obviously still very early so we shall see.

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Re: MGX-21 Demo, Road Test, and Review merged threadfest
« Reply #74 on: August 14, 2016, 12:43:15 PM »
I think that a review by Mick Walker would help. :rolleyes:
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Re: MGX-21 Demo, Road Test, and Review merged threadfest
« Reply #75 on: August 15, 2016, 09:53:31 AM »
Sturgis, er Deadwood 2016.  :boozing:


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Re: MGX-21 Demo, Road Test, and Review merged threadfest
« Reply #76 on: August 15, 2016, 01:14:01 PM »
When are you guys going to take delivery of your new MG?
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Re: MGX-21 Demo, Road Test, and Review merged threadfest
« Reply #77 on: August 15, 2016, 02:05:36 PM »
When are you guys going to take delivery of your new MG?

Brookside is having an unveil Friday evening, so I'm sure Luap will have his this weekend...
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Re: MGX-21 Demo, Road Test, and Review merged threadfest
« Reply #78 on: August 16, 2016, 04:07:53 PM »
Just rode the new MGX-21 at Sturgis introduction.  All I can say is "WOW". Might be time to liquidate my collection for one new scoot.

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Re: MGX-21 Demo, Road Test, and Review merged threadfest
« Reply #79 on: August 16, 2016, 04:09:06 PM »
Wonder how long this thread will stand?
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Re: MGX-21 Demo, Road Test, and Review merged threadfest
« Reply #80 on: August 16, 2016, 04:31:59 PM »
 Let's do keep the MGX 21 discussion on this thread , thanks .

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Re: MGX-21 Demo, Road Test, and Review merged threadfest
« Reply #81 on: August 16, 2016, 05:54:06 PM »
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Re: MGX-21 Demo, Road Test, and Review merged threadfest
« Reply #82 on: August 16, 2016, 06:04:03 PM »
Just rode the new MGX-21 at Sturgis introduction.  All I can say is "WOW". Might be time to liquidate my collection for one new scoot.

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« Reply #83 on: August 16, 2016, 06:04:25 PM »
:grin:

 Maybe it should have been signed Rocker and Dusty . LOL .

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Re: MGX-21 Demo, Road Test, and Review merged threadfest
« Reply #84 on: August 16, 2016, 06:37:03 PM »
When are you guys going to take delivery of your new MG?

Just got off the phone with Paul at Brookside.  Friday's falling apart for me due to work conflict and he's up in the air on the unveil thing anyway.  Tentatively, I'll be at Brookside Thursday at opening to see if I want it.  If so, I'll bring it home Thursday.
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Re: MGX-21 Demo, Road Test, and Review merged threadfest
« Reply #85 on: August 16, 2016, 07:00:02 PM »
anddddd another review.  I guess I missed the front wheel almost being solid or does it have a carbon fiber cover???  "bagger styled sport tourer"  :grin:

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Re: MGX-21 Demo, Road Test, and Review merged threadfest
« Reply #86 on: August 25, 2016, 03:04:01 AM »
     When I bought my Touring at the end of 2014 the choice was the Touring or the Custom and I fell in love with the Touring, buying with no test ride and only relying on reviews that turned out to be spot on. I tend to be practical which I have since found most other Guzzi owners to be. The wind protection and bags were good for me.
     The Custom seemed like more of a muscle bike as well as the Audace which is cool but not my personal taste. I love the Eldorado but would have probably still purchased the Touring for wind protection and bags.
     When the MGX 21 came out I thought it was way too far out but the more I see it the more I like it, but still not my style. All the bikes are obviously on the same basic platforms with trails different mostly because of the different front wheels.
     It seems that the bike is well liked for a variety of reasons including handling, power plant and all that carbon fiber!. The funny thing is that they make it like this power plant and handling is all new, like they never rode a Touring which has great handling, the same power plant, better wind protection and bigger bags. Less style but more practical.
     All of this is obviously personal preference and variety is a great thing. I think its great that Moto Guzzi is finally actually trying to market something with some degree of effort and hopefully will reap the rewards. It's hard to switch someone's brand loyalty including mine but they definitely got some loyalists thinking.

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Re: MGX-21 Demo, Road Test, and Review merged threadfest
« Reply #87 on: September 26, 2016, 01:46:34 PM »
There was little they didn't like about the bike.  Praised the handling, the cosmetics, engine performance, etc.

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