Author Topic: "Poor Man's" Ducati?  (Read 10079 times)

Online Perazzimx14

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 6268
Re: "Poor Man's" Ducati?
« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2016, 07:20:51 AM »
Not for the OP, but for the Ducati discussion, fwiw our 2011 696 has been flawless. Not a single problem or complaint.

So has been my 96 900ss/cr
2021 Moto Guzzi V85TT Guardia D'onore
2017 V7 III Carbon Dark #0008 of 1921
2017 Road Glide Special
2020 Kawasaki KLX300SM
2016 Suzuki Van Van 200 AKA Honda Trail 125 killer
2008 Harley Davidson Softail Custom

Offline steven c

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 4217
  • Location: Broad Brook CT
Re: "Poor Man's" Ducati?
« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2016, 07:29:50 AM »
Yamaha FZ 07 gets nothing but GREAT press.  Light as a feather...
I test rode an FZ7 one last year, really fun bike.
https://youtu.be/UfPjSf5wDo0
2020 V85TT Traveler
74 949 Eldorado


75 Benelli 250
2006 Buell Ulysses
78 Honda XL125

MGNOC 6412

Offline Darren Williams

  • Finally got me a Griso!
  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 1085
  • Life is too short to go slow!
  • Location: Oklahoma
Re: "Poor Man's" Ducati?
« Reply #32 on: August 06, 2016, 08:18:28 AM »
New SV has a different frame (shared with the Gladius) from the original.  I had a first gen and chassis/frame stiffness was really good. Guess that's why so many were used as track bikes.

I have not ridden a new one, but hope the frame change doesn't hurt the ride.
The best part of riding a motorcycle is to tilt the horizon and to lift the front coming out of a corner and to drift the back end powering thru loose dirt and to catch a little air topping a hill and... yeah it's all good!

Offline Buckturgidson

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 545
  • Location: Reno Nevada and Plumas County CA
Re: "Poor Man's" Ducati?
« Reply #33 on: August 06, 2016, 08:31:50 AM »
I bought an SV 650 new, a 2001, and it is a great bike for the money. However, there is nothing like the feeling of a Ducati on the gas.
The older Monsters with round headlight and classic looks are best imho, the newer ones look like transformers and they don't make a single bike with a dry clutch (!).
Try to buy someone elses project and save thousands, aftermarket exhaust is key.
"It's not your job to be as confused as Nigel." -Spinal Tap.
"Wagner's music is better than it sounds." -Mark Twain



'24 V100 Mandello, Violetta, bianco polare.
'07 Norge, Rosina, the classy one

Offline pikipiki

  • Gosling
  • ***
  • Posts: 476
  • Location: UK
Re: "Poor Man's" Ducati?
« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2016, 08:44:16 AM »
Yamaha FZ 07 gets nothing but GREAT press.  Light as a feather...

and now there's 700 Tracer, MT-07 and XSR 700 and even the XS950R the last one is a bit like a V9 bobber, although the Guzzi looks better you might find an xs950r with a heavy discount down to 700 Tracer money. that said the 700 tracer seems the sensible choice from the yamaha pick.

Offline Lannis

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 26504
  • Location: Central Virginia
Re: "Poor Man's" Ducati?
« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2016, 08:49:09 AM »
Well ...... most of the responses re the SV650 have been positive.  Seems like a lot of bike for not a lot of money.  Thanks to all forum members who responded.  (Still curious about the KTM 390 ..... )

It's interesting when you go to watch the Manx GP clubman racing on the Isle of Man and look at the starting lineup, and then look at the results.

VERY few Ducatis, LOTS of V-twin 650 Suzukis.   Going like mad and finishing the race ...

I know that racing isn't street riding (well, on the IOM it is) but people are going to choose what will run hard and finish the race when they have all the world's street bikes to choose from ....

Lannis
« Last Edit: August 06, 2016, 08:51:34 AM by Lannis »
"Hard pounding, this, gentlemen; let's see who pounds the longest".

Offline timonbik

  • Gosling
  • ***
  • Posts: 379
  • Location: ONTARIO, CANADA
Re: "Poor Man's" Ducati?
« Reply #36 on: August 06, 2016, 09:48:23 AM »
I had a 2006 Ducati MTS 620.  Bought it new and put over 60,000 troublefree kms ont it.  Probably the best bike I ever owned till and inattentive driver pulled out in front of me and totalled it.  Bought and still own 2 bikes that I thought would replace it.  Honda NT700V, nice appliance but underpowered and HEAVY and my 750 Breva, nice but a bit small and still somewhat underpowered and of course quirky.
Ducati could tour with the big boys and ride the twisties.  Fantastic all around bike!!!
Cheers,  Tim
2008 BREVA 750
2020 V85TT ADV rosso
2016 APRILIA SHIVER 750
2013 VICTORY JUDGE CUSTOM
2013 VICTORY XR CLASSIC
2006 VICTORY V92TC
2006 DUCATI MULTISTRADA 620 (IN DUCATI HEAVEN)

Doppelgaenger

  • Guest
Re: "Poor Man's" Ducati?
« Reply #37 on: August 06, 2016, 10:11:23 AM »
SV650 was my first bike. They're a lot of fun but the stock suspension is garbage. Front brakes are very good compared to say a triumph bonneville, rear brake does nothing nothing nothing and suddenly locks up the rear tire. Valve jobs aren't as bad as ducati, but they're still much harder than a guzzi and require special tools and disassembling half the bike.

It's hard to find a better bike for the budget.

Offline LowRyter

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • Posts: 16782
  • Location: Edmond OK
Re: "Poor Man's" Ducati?
« Reply #38 on: August 06, 2016, 10:29:31 AM »
having ridden newer Suzukis, I can say that even the simple base suspension is much improved over 15 years ago.   And Racetek springs and cartridge emulators and many other proven racetrack modifications are available for the SV.

My guess is that most riders will be satisfied with the suspension, frame, ergos and engine performance with a new stock SV benefiting from 15 years legacy of improvements.  My guess is that the SV will perform as well or better than air-cooled base-model Monsters.  And the SV is reliable as an anvil and has a complete line of after market parts top to bottom.

The new Monsters are in another performance category and price level.  And the new Duc SS really gets my attention.
« Last Edit: August 06, 2016, 10:33:54 AM by LowRyter »
John L 
When life gets you down remember it's one down and the rest are up.  (1-N-23456)

Offline Rusnak_322

  • Gosling
  • ***
  • Posts: 379
  • Location: Cleveland, Ohio AREA
Re: "Poor Man's" Ducati?
« Reply #39 on: August 06, 2016, 10:59:04 AM »
It's interesting when you go to watch the Manx GP clubman racing on the Isle of Man and look at the starting lineup, and then look at the results.

VERY few Ducatis, LOTS of V-twin 650 Suzukis.   Going like mad and finishing the race ...

I know that racing isn't street riding (well, on the IOM it is) but people are going to choose what will run hard and finish the race when they have all the world's street bikes to choose from ....

Lannis


That has everything to do with how the rules for racing classes are written.

When I club raced a SV650, it ran against 2 stroke 125cc bikes, 400cc 4 cylinder bikes and 1000cc air cooled bikes.

A air cooled monster dosnt fit into any racing classifications.
1975 Moto Guzzi 850T - café racer in progress
2007 Ducati Monster S4Rs

Offline Lannis

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 26504
  • Location: Central Virginia
Re: "Poor Man's" Ducati?
« Reply #40 on: August 06, 2016, 02:16:59 PM »

That has everything to do with how the rules for racing classes are written.

When I club raced a SV650, it ran against 2 stroke 125cc bikes, 400cc 4 cylinder bikes and 1000cc air cooled bikes.

A air cooled monster dosnt fit into any racing classifications.

Didn't know that; just watched them FLYING by the house lap after lap.   Thanks!

Sounds like the 1960s AMA rules pitting 500cc Brits against the 750cc Harley sidevalves ... a real "homer"!

Lannis
« Last Edit: August 06, 2016, 03:53:47 PM by Lannis »
"Hard pounding, this, gentlemen; let's see who pounds the longest".

Offline drums4money

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 1107
  • Location: PA: Latitude: 40.688432 | Longitude: -75.220732
Re: "Poor Man's" Ducati?
« Reply #41 on: August 06, 2016, 08:10:40 PM »
Not for the OP, but for the Ducati discussion, fwiw our 2011 696 has been flawless. Not a single problem or complaint.

2006 S2r - 21,000 miles.  1st inspection required shims.  Subsequent checks have been within spec.  Belts, oil, fuel filter last fall.  It's been the perfect backroads bike.  I'm smiling right now because it's on the charger which means it's the one I get to ride bright & early in the morning. .

I have seen a few SV650's that were nicely cared for & sounded great.  I think that's the engine in the "weestrom" & it's supposed to be as solid as a ball-peen hammer. 

« Last Edit: August 06, 2016, 08:13:48 PM by drums4money »
hypocrite, four flusher, snake in the grass, just a swindler and wolf in sheep's clothing...liar

1200 Sport , Monster S2R, MV Agusta B3 800

Old School Audio:
http://oldschoolaudio.wix.com/headphones

Offline desmoface

  • Hatchling
  • **
  • Posts: 66
Re: "Poor Man's" Ducati?
« Reply #42 on: August 06, 2016, 08:58:30 PM »
One of the best bikes I've ever owned - I sold it to my friend who still rides the piss out of it:



Steve

Offline jas67

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 5438
  • Location: Palmyra, PA
Re: "Poor Man's" Ducati?
« Reply #43 on: August 06, 2016, 10:26:55 PM »
Not for the OP, but for the Ducati discussion, fwiw our 2011 696 has been flawless. Not a single problem or complaint.

Same goes for my 2013 796.
2017 V7III Special
1977 Le Mans
1974 Eldorado
2017 Triumph Thruxton R
2013 Ducati Monster 796, 2013 848 Evo Corse SE, 1974 750GT, 1970 Mk3d 450 Desmo, 1966 Monza 250
1975 Moto Morini 3 1/2
2007 Vespa GTS250
2016 BMW R1200RS, 80 R100S, 76 R90S ,73 R75/5
76 Honda CB400F, 67 305 Super Hawk, 68 CL175

 


NEW WILDGUZZI PRODUCT - Moto Guzzi Door Mat
Receive donation credit with door mat purchase!
Advertise Here