Speeding ticket

[John A]

Got a speeding ticket on my sidecar. I deserved it , 79 in a 55. So this is a cautionary note . Usually I'm quicker to shut down when I spot them, this time for some reason I didn't . Young feller, out to write tickets this holiday weekend. Fines come right out of the "fun" budget.

[Arizona Wayne]

Got a speeding ticket on my sidecar. I deserved it , 79 in a 55. So this is a cautionary note . Usually I'm quicker to shut down when I spot them, this time for some reason I didn't . Young feller, out to write tickets this holiday weekend. Fines come right out of the "fun" budget.

You have a hack that'll do 79 mph?    Tell us more about it.

[John A]

It'll do a lot more than 79!

[rodekyll]

I can testify to doing 75 and John pulling away.  I cudda caught him but I got something in my eye.  They got chunks in the air back there.

[Texas Turnip]

John,
Request a jury trial with your peers being veterans. You can beat it or have it reduced to no seat belt. Yes, I had a speeding ticket on the Guzzi in weezy anna reduced to "no seat belt" $50 bucks cash.

Tex

[John A]

When I asked the cop if he could just give me a warning he said no but that I should plead not guilty. I should also mention that I also got ticketed for passing in a no passing zone. Just nicked the end by about 10 feet. I could see, there was no oncoming traffic and the lead guy in the cluster was (finally) speeding up. Bunch of no driving Minnesota folks got across the state line, funny to see them this far from the borderline .  :rolleyes:Not Harley's , cars
Tex from now on I'll be getting my legal advise from you!

[Motogogo]

Here's a police side view of your bike John ... with Hager City in the background.
Nice looking rig Mr. A.!

[John Ulrich]

Of course that motor has not been "stock" since it arrived at John's house.   

[John A]

Well it "looks" stock.  Motogogo, Welch is a neat little town. Have we met? My brotherinlaw owns the old bus garage at the corner. Thanks for the picture and the compliment!

[LowRyter]

writing of speed traps:

I was merging onto the highway last night and a Highway patrol car was parked on the painted area between the entrance ramp and the highway. It was dark and hidden under the crest of the road from oncoming highway traffic and partially hidden from me when I tried to enter the highway.

Talk about dangerous. If you were broken down you'd push your car to the shoulder an turn on the parking lights.

I know they want to be hidden for their speedtraps but c'mon man, get off the damn road.

I wrote them an e-mail about it this morning.

[Travln Man]

Very nice rig!
Not quite for sure how far away you are but.
There is a sidecar meet at the Motorcycle Museum in Anamosa Iowa next weekend.
I'd really like to see how you have the sidecar mounted. Looks a lot more sophisticated than the standard Velorex frame and mount.
 

[Orange Guzzi]

You are what the police call "low hanging fruit".  The number one method of criminal law enforcement.  It is not about the speed, the seatbelt or the burnt out light bulb.  It is about probable cause to stop a person and check for outstanding warrants or other illegal activity.  The long term affect is the person smoking a joint or having an open container ends up having the rest of their lives ruined.  Making them outcast and unemployable because of new Local, State and Federal employment guidelines.  Destroying whole communities.  Part of the of some weird plan?  The $10,000 Safety Grant causes Millions of dollars in economic damage and ruins many peoples lives.  The End does not justify the Means.  I know this is an odd perspective, but it is the truth.   Follow the money,  ask your family and friends about their story of a traffic stop ruining their life. 

This Woman put it in better words than I did.  The NHTSB is destroying our lives and communities. 

http://www.law.virginia.edu/html/news/2015_sum/harmon.htm

[Motogogo]

Well it "looks" stock.  Motogogo, Welch is a neat little town. Have we met? My brotherinlaw owns the old bus garage at the corner. Thanks for the picture and the compliment!

 Hi John yeah we've met at Wiederholts, we talked about looking for Morels.
 Small world ... that intersection on 61 is where I almost could not get my v700 stopped for a red light ... riding home  the day I bought it (1982?) Yeah almost  NO BRAKES!
 You bought a Rav4 from my friend as well.

 PS Hi John, John, and John from John.

[oldbike54]

 79 in a 55 , hmm , 24 over is gonna get you a ticket , kinda hard to argue 24 over 

 Dusty

[John A]

I am glad I didn't come across him at other points in the ride. Probly be typing from a cell. youthful exuberance gets me in trouble sometimes, like Orange Guzzi pointed out. the trooper got close to me, sniffing for something that wasn't there....

[oldbike54]

I am glad I didn't come across him at other points in the ride. Probly be typing from a cell. youthful exuberance gets me in trouble sometimes, like Orange Guzzi pointed out

 June 2014 , Southwestern AR , a group of us including the boss encountered an AR State Trooper. We passed him once when he had a car pulled over , the lights alerted us so we slowed down , he ignored us . About 45 minutes later , exiting a town , some of us that had been caught at a light were going probably 25 over to catch up . Yep , there was that same trooper coming towards us . 4 of us stopped , he waved 2 of us out of the way , even though we were exceeding the 55 MPH limit by at least 25 MPH . He checked the last 2 riders , and told the tag end rider that he understood he was just trying to catch up . No tickets , just a friendly reminder to slow down . That was a weird day , we must have seen 40 local po po , guess they were worried about all of the "bikers" invading their territory 

 Dusty

[PJPR01]

  The long term affect is the person smoking a joint or having an open container ends up having the rest of their lives ruined.

What an interesting and lopsided perspective this is...how about the 1000's of folks whose lives have been ruined by the asshole who is drinking and causes an accident, kills whole families and creates mayhem in other people's lives just so he/she can enjoy an open container.  Seems that folks who are doing things that cause impairment to their driving skills ought to be prevented from ruining other people's lives, consider yourself lucky if you have not been caught and not yet caused a serious accident while you are "enjoying" your open container. 

[oldbike54]

 Alright fellas , lately every discussion involving alcohol has deteriorated rapidly into a morass of bad feelings . Don't drink , smoke pot , snort coke , take a handful of  happy pills , etc , and then operate a motor vehicle . Not smart , will lead to bad things . I seriously doubt anyone here advocates for participating in these activities . Thanks

 Dusty

[rodekyll]

What an interesting and lopsided perspective this is...how about the 1000's of folks whose lives have been ruined by the asshole who is drinking and causes an accident, kills whole families and creates mayhem in other people's lives just so he/she can enjoy an open container.  Seems that folks who are doing things that cause impairment to their driving skills ought to be prevented from ruining other people's lives, consider yourself lucky if you have not been caught and not yet caused a serious accident while you are "enjoying" your open container.

Agreed 100% 

"I got a snootful, drove around inebriated, and some cop ruined my life."  Or "I was doing 90 in a school zone and some chisckensh*t cop used it as an excuse for 'revenue enhancement'".  Generically "It's not my fault for breaking the rules, it's the cop's fault for noticing."  That's the anthem of a world-class loser.  The cop didn't make you speed/text/drink/drive drunk.  The only sympathy you get is from the whining drunk on the barstool next to you.  The real world is HAPPY YOUR LIFE IS 'RUINED'!!!!  My message to folks that blame it on the cop is to grow up an own it -- it's yours.

[John A]

I actually agree and was out in the country when the alleged offense took place. The funny thing is I support stricter traffic enforcement , just not on me. I'll pay the fine and learn from it 

[StuCorpe]

It looks like you have cut down the windshield height on the sidecar. Did that reduce the air buffeting from that side on the driver? That has been my biggest objection to the Texas Ranger I mounted. Thought about removing the windshield from it completely. Nice looking rig!

[rodekyll]

My big objection to John's rig is that when you go for the clutch, if you're not thinking, you'll do a really sharp right turn.      He's got buttons and levers all over that thing.

[John A]

It looks like you have cut down the windshield height on the sidecar. Did that reduce the air buffeting from that side on the driver? That has been my biggest objection to the Texas Ranger I mounted. Thought about removing the windshield from it completely. Nice looking rig!

I made the windshield by cutting it out of I don't remember what kind of plastic, might have been the top part of a broken windshield . I found a barrel with the radius I wanted and put a towel on it. I heated it with an oxy acetylene rosebud to form it. One of the best improvements I have made.

[Orange Guzzi]

Agreed 100% 

"I got a snootful, drove around inebriated, and some cop ruined my life."  Or "I was doing 90 in a school zone and some chisckensh*t cop used it as an excuse for 'revenue enhancement'".  Generically "It's not my fault for breaking the rules, it's the cop's fault for noticing."  That's the anthem of a world-class loser.  The cop didn't make you speed/text/drink/drive drunk.  The only sympathy you get is from the whining drunk on the barstool next to you.  The real world is HAPPY YOUR LIFE IS 'RUINED'!!!!  My message to folks that blame it on the cop is to grow up an own it -- it's yours.

As long as the Federal Government collects in excess of $41 billion in taxes, there will be death and injuries from alcohol. 

It is the Scarlet Letter affect that is destroying lives.   Being labeled a loser for a lifetime is not good for anyone in the long run.  It make the problems in a community worse, never better in the long run.  A little innocent grant cost millions to the community.  The invisible affect. 

[Tom]

You are what the police call "low hanging fruit".  The number one method of criminal law enforcement.  It is not about the speed, the seatbelt or the burnt out light bulb.  It is about probable cause to stop a person and check for outstanding warrants or other illegal activity.  The long term affect is the person smoking a joint or having an open container ends up having the rest of their lives ruined.  Making them outcast and unemployable because of new Local, State and Federal employment guidelines.  Destroying whole communities.  Part of the of some weird plan?  The $10,000 Safety Grant causes Millions of dollars in economic damage and ruins many peoples lives.  The End does not justify the Means.  I know this is an odd perspective, but it is the truth.   Follow the money,  ask your family and friends about their story of a traffic stop ruining their life. 

This Woman put it in better words than I did.  The NHTSB is destroying our lives and communities. 

http://www.law.virginia.edu/html/news/2015_sum/harmon.htm

Please more info on your conclusion about "new Local, State and Federal employment guidelines." as an effect from a violation of smoking pot or open container laws?

[Sasquatch Jim]

 Hell 79 MPH ain't worth bragging about.  When I moved from Ill Noise to Washington, I was on I-90 passing a string of semis.  I was well over 100 MPH when I cleared the fourth one.
 Then I had an attack of common sense and dropped back to about 80.  I was fully loaded with cargo and upon reaching Washington I rolled onto a scale and loaded the rig weighed 1350 pounds with out me on the scale.  It was an 1100cc Yamaha and my own design of home made sidecar.  Later that day I weighed it empty and it weighed 900 lb.  It was stable as a rock at speed on I-90 and going through 2 lane mountain roads.  Before I got to Port Townsend I stopped at the Deep Forest campout for the weekend.  That would have been in 2005, my first Deep Forest.  It became my favorite campout until I got blasted apart by the deer in 2009.

[rodekyll]

As long as the Federal Government collects in excess of $41 billion in taxes, As long as people drive under the influence there will be death and injuries from alcohol. 

It is the Scarlet Letter affect impaired driver that is destroying lives.   

Being labeled a loser for a lifetime is not good for anyone in the long run.  It make the problems in a community worse, never better in the long run.  This is exactly what the loser needs to come to terms with.

A little innocent grant run down the sidewalk with your chevy cost millions to the community lives.  The invisible affect reason we like it when drunks go to jail -- it's better when just the loser loses.

I think your spellchecker wasn't working -- fixed it for you.

[Lannis]

I actually agree and was out in the country when the alleged offense took place. The funny thing is I support stricter traffic enforcement , just not on me. I'll pay the fine and learn from it 

Good try on the warning but you're not going to get away with 79 in a 55 even if you weren't weaving through traffic (and I recognize that you're not trying to).   69 in a 55 solo, MAYBE, but not 79.

Sounds like to me, though, that the cop is giving you a nudge and a wink.   "Just a warning", no, can't do that, but if you go to court, respond to the judge in a way that does NOT disagree with the cop's record of events, let the judge see that you have a good record with no recent violations, then chances are even you'll get a "dismissed" with no points on your record.

Worth a try anyway.   At the very least, you'll get it reduced to something below Reckless Driving, which is what 20 over normally tags you with ....

Lannis

[John A]

That's the way I read it too Lannis. I don't have the style to carry it off like Tex so I'm stuck with the mercy of the court

[Orange Guzzi]

I think your spellchecker wasn't working -- fixed it for you.

Yeah, I know, I buried my mother in law after a drunk driver killed her.  I have buried friends from drunk drivers.  I killed a drunk when he ran out in front of me. 

Yet the $41 billion paid in taxes each year keep alcohol legal. Bittersweet laws. 

A good lawyer is all that was required to get away with murder.