Uh, vintage flat tracker w/new motors?, CL, new haven

[chuck peterson]

https://newhaven.craigslist.org/mcy/5807198640.html

Or those actual flat trackers or fake new ones? I can't see farking a real bike with a new motor so you can ruin the value...got to be new fakes, right?

[v65tt]

"riden only a few times, brand new, Professionally built selling as replicas"

[CalVin2007]

https://newhaven.craigslist.org/mcy/5807198640.html

Or those actual flat trackers or fake new ones? I can't see farking a real bike with a new motor so you can ruin the value...got to be new fakes, right?

   Right.

  Terry

[Aaron D.]

Motorized bicycles made to look vintage-y. Not Indians or Harleys.

[jas67]

The crappy little Chinese engines with the fake long stroke crank case under them look, well, very fake.   If you really wanted a nice replica, make the engine look more real, or better yet, produce a replica of the actual engines used on that era.

[Triple Jim]

What's that thing hanging down from the top tube, with "Indian" printed on it?

[oldbike54]

 What in hell does one do with a fake antique motorbike that can't be made street legal , has a junk motor , and no suspension ? Oh yeah , look at it and think , "Wow , I coulda had a V9" 

 Dusty

[Rotten Ralph]

Exactly my thoughts - can't race it, not street legal, not collectable. What the heck is it good for?

[Triple Jim]

It's possible that it could legally be a moped in many (all?) states.

[oldbike54]

It's possible that it could legally be a moped in many (all?) states.

 Not in Oklahoma .

 Dusty

[Shorty]

What in hell does one do with a fake antique motorbike that can't be made street legal , has a junk motor , and no suspension ? Oh yeah , look at it and think , "Wow , I coulda had a V9" 

 Dusty

Try to get around after too many DUIs? 

[oldbike54]

Try to get around after too many DUIs? 

 Now there is an image , a drunk Okie riding a fake antique motorbike . Probably more likely pushing either one of these 

 Dusty

[rocker59]

 Not in Oklahoma .

 Dusty

But all things are possible in The Land of Opportunity...   

[rocker59]

What in hell does one do with a fake antique motorbike that can't be made street legal , has a junk motor , and no suspension ? Oh yeah , look at it and think , "Wow , I coulda had a V9" 

 Dusty

Get a "home built" title in Arkansas and make it a commuter or bar-hopper.   

[Triple Jim]

 Not in Oklahoma .

Huh.  Here's the NC definition.  If the engine is 50cc or less, and you make sure it won't go over 30, it would be a moped.

Moped Defintion

vehicle with two or three wheels with a motor of no more than 50 cubic centimeters of piston displacement and no external shifting device. Legally, a moped's top speed cannot exceed 30 mph on a level surface. Although some mopeds on the market have top speeds higher than the 30 mph limit, they are illegal for use in North Carolina. If a moped does not fit the above requirements, it must be registered as a motorcycle under North Carolina law.

[rocker59]

Yeah.  Same here.  If it has a 49cc engine, it's a mo-ped and pretty much nothing is required by the State.  Some cities (college towns) here require them to be insured.

[ScepticalScotty]

Theres a sucker born every minute!!!

[Tom]

It's listed as having an automatic transmission?  Trademark infringement?  Would be interesting with what type of paperwork?  If considered moped different set of rules for them.  HI same as other states for size of engine and top speed.  There's also the requirement of being a license driver. 

Many people assume that you can ride a moped with no driver's license.  Not true.  Check your state's laws.  A moped doesn't require a scooter endorsement on your license to operate one but still requires that the operator have a driver's license.  Having a scooter endorsement doesn't mean that you can legally operate a motorcycle. 

Some of the moped regs. have changed here too.  The state saw that a lot of mopeds were being sold and another revenue stream to tap.  They changed it where mopeds need inspections, scooter registration and motorcycle plates.  No insurance requirements but scooter style registrations/titles.  Prior to that mopeds where in the bicycle category.  You had a registration sticker and a moped safety check.  Might be the same in your state. 

[Triple Jim]

Some of the moped regs. have changed here too.  The state saw that a lot of mopeds were being sold and another revenue stream to tap.  They changed it where mopeds need inspections, scooter registration and motorcycle plates.  No insurance requirements but scooter style registrations/titles.  Prior to that mopeds where in the bicycle category.  You had a registration sticker and a moped safety check.  Might be the same in your state.

I did some more reading after your post.  The moped laws in NC changed a lot this summer.  Now a moped has to be registered, tagged, and insured, and the driver has to be at least 16 and must wear a helmet, but still does not have to have a valid NC driver's license.

They're popular around here among those who have lost their licenses for driving under the influence, so it makes sense to allow those people to drive a moped without a license, so they can get to work.  At least it makes sense from that standpoint.

[Tom]

Looks like they can't be used in your state as a moped.  Does a moped in your state have a title like a motorcycle?

[Triple Jim]

No, just a registration.  Things really changed this summer, and no one  notified me.   

[Tom]

Funny thing about laws being changed and enacted.  The public is suppose to obey them even if they don't know it. 

[Shorty]

Now there is an image , a drunk Okie riding a fake antique motorbike . Probably more likely pushing either one of these 

 Dusty

Can't remember how many times I kick (and kicked and kicked) started my old Triumphs til I was sober.  Probably saved my life..... Imagine the lives these POSs could save. 

[Tom]

Same here with my HD Recon.  Kick start, suicide clutch, tank shift. 

[Triple Jim]

I thought the "suicide" came from the shifter requiring the driver to take his hand off the bar to shift.

[rocker59]

I thought the "suicide" came from the shifter requiring the driver to take his hand off the bar to shift.

No, that's simply "hand-shift".

"Suicide" refers to a spring-loaded foot clutch that means you cannot put your left foot down at a stop, with the bike in gear.

[Tom]

Y'ep.  Real fun in rush hour traffic.  Gotta have a hand brake or you'll have fun on hills.

[rocker59]

Yeah.  The real badass chopper d00ds, back in the day, had both a suicide clutch and no front brake.

Quite a dance to stop and start on a hill with that setup!

[Ncdan]

 Sorry, but looks like just more Chinese junk to me:(

[Triple Jim]

Huh, after you posted that, Mike, I read a little about it.  It seems that long ago, I fell for the misnomer usage of the term.  Thanks to you and Tom for the education.  :)

Now if we can get folks to stop using "fitment" to mean "fit".